TEXT OF READING 254-8
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Date: 7/13/1924 Sex: M ReadingID: 1146
This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce in Columbus, Ohio, this 13th day of July, 1924, at the home of Mr. and Mrs. Frank E. Mohr, 499 Vermont Place, in accordance with request made by Mr. Edgar Cayce himself.
[Edgar Cayce; Gladys Davis, Conductor and Steno. Mr. and Mrs. Frank E. Mohr.]
Time of Reading 10:00 A. M. Columbus, Ohio.
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GD: [Questions dictated by EC beforehand] You will have before you the work of Edgar Cayce and answer the following questions.
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(Q) How and by whom should the work be conducted? (A) Much of the manner and form as to how this should be conducted has been given, and no circumstances or conditions could change same. That is, in this: People are prone to find dissimilation, yet there must be some credence given, and when there is it will give and do that that will bring the better results to the efforts put forth. The work as conducted may be and should be conducted by anyone that has the ability to concentrate sufficient to keep the at-oneness of the results. As to the best, as given, the work would succeed best with the one now in charge [See 294-8, Par. 23 GD’s footnote]. Others, under circumstances, are necessary that they be used, yet all times using discretion, for the physical must be kept fit, if we would have the manifestation of the spiritual forces in the earth plane.
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(Q) What may be expected from the efforts of George S. Klingensmith in raising funds to promote the work? (A) As to that expectancy from the efforts of George S. Klingensmith, we will find there will much come of this. However, it will be longer with the changing than were the efforts confined to Dayton alone. In that attitude then should be taken into consideration, yet the work needs, as has been given, the publicity necessary that others may know of same and gain benefits thereby. We would say, give of the work in many places, in many places, and in the sixty days necessary for the change to come we will find we will be near to the correct place. The best way to do would be to go to the place where you expect to establish and begin and open the work there. That is, Norfolk, Old Point Comfort, and those cities close to where the work expects to be established. Advertise. Show what is meant. Give the understanding. Work to that end, beginning first in the places near.
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(Q) What is the attitude of Linden Shroyer toward the work and others connected with it? (A) As to the attitude to the work and others from Linden Shroyer, we find that is a personal condition and Shroyer feels that the other two [EC & GD?] have left him out of their closer understanding and union rather than his lack of interest in the work, and with the financial that has come in is detrimental to his further development, and it would be better that he had never known than to turn against. Forget not the injunction as given, “He having put his hand to the plow turn not back again”. [Luke 9:62]
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(Q) How should the work here in Columbus be conducted so as to be remunerative? (A) As to the work here in this place [Columbus], and how to conduct that, it may be remunerative. Would only be, let those understand that there is expected, for necessity, that due to those for the labors physically spent and that the necessity of the needs must be supplied by those desiring the help.
Better that there be someone else with these two [EC & GD?] than alone, for the attitude that some snobs take toward such relations, for it has often been given that relations with the opposite sex in psychic forces bring the carnal forces to that not understandable condition in other minds that are shut out to the higher, finer and enobling things of life, and who only see that which is of the earthly.
This then should be done in the manner that there may be no questioning in any manner or form, or as is given, present the body, the life, the work wholly unspotted from the world, avoiding even the appearance of evil. [Jas. 1:27; 1 Thes. 5:22] Let the two in their attitude, which is above reproach in their own lives and bodies, be circumspect in their actions in the presence of others, for they will be enjoined by such. [See 294-8 notations in re other readings indicat- ing close associations in the past between EC, GC, HLC and GD requiring their cooperative efforts in this life to make “the work” as efficient as it should be, saying “they are souls in the making” and “all souls are one”.]
Follow these. Keep in the way, trust in Him. Better were these [activities] opened first from here, [as we see here], in Charleston, West Virginia, then in Roanoke, then in Norfolk, West Point, Old Point Comfort. Thus, we find, we would give and get the better results.
- (Q) [Question added by Mr. Mohr] Would it be well for the work to be conducted in other cities under the supervision of Mr. Frank E. Mohr? (A) Very good. Anyone [with] whom there is no question of their sincerity and who is honest with self and those concerned.
Keep in that way that each may not make life in the physical a burden to the other, giving of self in physical, in spiritual, in all forces, for their union should be perfect in each and in Him. [GD’s notes: In some of EC’s earliest readings under his own Case number [294], he was admonished that his work would always be judged of others by his own spiritual life.]
- We are through for the present.
Reports
Reports & Follow-up
R1. Only 3 more days were spent in Columbus, during which time he gave seven readings. In the meantime he had a phone call from Chicago from a Mr. Oscar Gumbinsky who wired him money to come to Chicago to give some readings; he had been referred by Mr. Reuben S. Nathan who had obtained readings for himself and family previously (being a close friend of David E. Kahn).
While in Chicago EC and I were guests of his sister (Sarah Cayce Hesson) and her husband (Mr. and Mrs. L. J. Hesson). Mr. Gumbinsky rented a room at the Washington Hotel where Mr. Cayce could give the readings for Mr. G. and others whom be brought to us. Most were physical readings, some of which were observed by Mr. Gumbinsky’s physician, Dr. Herman N. Bundesen - City Health Officer, and Dr. Isaac Frisch. [See EC’s later correspondence with Mr. M. B. Wyrick under 4905-2 Reports in re details of these connections.]
On 7/23/24 Mr. Wyrick took a group of us to Dixon, Ill., for the day to “check out” possibilities of opening the Cayce Hospital there; included were, besides EC and GD, Miss Jensen (Mr. Wyrick’s sec’ty), Sarah Cayce Hesson and Harriet Saxmann, D.C., wife of Robert S. Saxmann, D.C. (uncle of George S. Klingensmith).
R2. 7/27/24 See 254-9 in re establishing the work in Dixon, Ill.
Background
Background
B1. In late May and early June EC started giving some of the readings from his home on Grafton Ave., rather than at the Phillips Hotel. Linden Shroyer was tied up with Arthur Lammers, as his accountant, in the closing of the Dayton Photo-Products Co. He could not always be there to conduct the readings. A few of them I had to conduct. The last two readings given at Phillips Hotel were on June 20, 1924, with Linden Shroyer conducting. After that Mr. Cayce’s home on Grafton Ave., became his office and Mrs. Cayce became the official Conductor.
Without the few loyal souls who continued to get readings and refer others to him, I don’t think “the work” could have survived. You will see in Mr. Cayce’s correspondence (the date sequence collection) how hard up he was, how difficult it was to keep plugging.
Mr. Frank E. Mohr of Columbus, O., who had been cured in the early Hopkinsville days, who also conducted readings in 1922 in B’ham, Ala., (whose affidavit appeared in one of the early introductory booklets) had rounded up quite a group in Columbus who wanted readings. He invited Mr. Cayce to come to Columbus to give rdgs. (bringing his steno.) and we could stay in their home but he would rent a room in the Southern Hotel where the people could come for their readings.
On 7/9/24 Mr. Cayce took me with him to Columbus where we stayed with his friends, Mr. and Mrs. Frank E. Mohr, 499 Vermont Place. From 7/10/24 through 7/12/24 Mr. Cayce gave 9 rdgs. (3 a day), all Physicals.
Sunday, 7/13/24, only this one reading [254-8] was given - on the Work. Mr. Cayce wrote the Suggestion [questions]. Frank E. Mohr, Linden Shroyer and George Klingensmith all wanted a part in furthering the work, with funds sufficient to support their efforts. [See 254-7 Reports.]
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Summary
Edgar Cayce gives guidance on how the psychic work should be conducted, including fundraising, locations, and interpersonal dynamics among those involved.
People: George S. Klingensmith, Linden Shroyer, Frank E. Mohr, Mr. Oscar Gumbinsky, Mr. Reuben S. Nathan, King David, Edgar Cayce, Mr. L. J. Hesson, Dr. Herman N. Bundesen, Dr. Isaac Frisch, Mr. M. B. Wyrick, Miss Jensen, Harriet Saxmann, Robert S. Saxmann
Places: Ohio, Dayton Ohio, Norfolk, Old Point Comfort, Charleston, West Virginia, Roanoke, Chicago, Dixon, Illinois
Concepts: spiritual work, Psychic Development, carnal forces, souls in the making, all souls are one, avoiding appearance of evil, trust in God
Referenced readings: 294-8, 254-7, 254-9, 4905-2
Mentioned Entities
Ohio, Chicago, Soul, Dayton Ohio, Phillips Hotel (Dayton), Arthur Lammers, David Kahn, Gertrude Cayce, Gladys Davis, Hopkinsville, King David, Oneness, Psychic Development
Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 254-8, ReadingID 1146.