Reading 2779-1

TEXT OF READING 2779-1 M 11 (Hebrew)

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Date: 7/7/1942 Sex: M Age: 11 ReadingID: 9941

This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at the office of the Association, Arctic Crescent, Virginia Beach, Va., this 7th day of July, 1942, in accordance with request made by the parents - Dr. [2772] and Mrs. [2771], Associate Members of the Association for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.

[Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno.]

Born March 10, 1931, in New York City. Time of Reading 4:00 to 4:45 P. M. Eastern War Time. …, New York. (Life Reading Suggestion)

1. EC: Yes, we have the records here of that entity now known as or called [2779].

2. In giving the interpretations of the records as we find them of this entity, many things and conditions and circumstances of an unusual nature must be taken into consideration.

3. Yet, as we find, if that as may be given here is adhered to, much may come from the experiences and activities of this entity in the earth; that those who come to love the entity would bless those who applied these suggestions that are made, if they were aware of same.

4. The circumstances of the entity’s entrance into the earth at this particular period are most unusual. For, it might be said, from the purely spiritual angle, there was not the intention of entering - or there were not the complete channels for the purposes of the entity, in the channels through which the entity came.

5. To be sure, this is not - nor is it to be interpreted as - an indictment against any of those circumstances which arose or surrounded the activities at the entrance. For, as may be seen from the complete record, the entity entered not at the period of the completion of the physical conception of the body that the soul-entity occupies in the present.

6. Thus, if there is the correction in the psychic condition that exists in the mind, or in the disassociation of mind from body as it rests, much may be given through this channel as to the place this entity is to fill in the scheme of things at this period.

7. And it would be well for this correction to be completed before there is the completing of puberty for this physical entity.

8. We find that this may be best accomplished by a subjugation of the conscious mind and the establishing of those suggestive thoughts for the correction of the physical discoordination with the mental and spiritual body; or through hypnosis.

9. But this should be done only by one who thoroughly appreciates those problems that are to be met by the body here, [2779].

10. Such an one might be had, as we find, in Dr. Kuhn, who has that concept of the spiritual, the mental AND the material life of an individual.

11. Two to three to four periods should be sufficient, possibly even less, - if it is agreeable to the body [2779] himself.

12. As to the suggestion: Only awaken the consciousness of the physical to the consciousness of the mental, that there may be the attention of the body to the needs of and the care for the physical body, as to those conditions that prevent a normal activity in sleep.

13. In giving the interpretations of the records here, - the experience before this as combined with the entity’s entering not as had been sought, makes for such an influence as to overshadow the latent urges and abilities which should be expressed through this channel. Therefore, when this psychic disassociation of physical and mental has been corrected, we may give more helpful information as to the real capabilities and possibilities of the entity.

14. The circumstances of the entity’s entrance, we find, do not make for a supplanting, or did not make for a supplanting; rather there becomes a greater responsibility to those physically in the position of directing the abilities - as will be seen - that are indicated as a part of the entity’s experience.

15. Hence little of astrological influence (so-called) has a part in the experience of the entity, until after it has completed its third cycle - or until the entity in earth years has passed its seventeenth year.

16. As to the urges latent and that may be manifested, - much of these will be changed by those suggestions as may be made, by the one controlling this association of body-mind and spirit-mind, as it may be made to coordinate.

17. Yet these are apparent:

18. One that is at some periods as a tyrant in self, and yet so tender, so gentle, so understanding as not to be able to see the least thing suffer. And a real proof of this, as may not be experienced in any other association, would be for the entity to come in contact with an individual suffering in the last stages of what is called T.B. or consumption; for through such there might be seen even a flare-back to the period of the greater manifestation and awakening of this entity in the material plane.

19. Then, to understand or comprehend something of the problems of this entity (though these, as indicated, will be changed materially) (yet these will remain):

20. There is indicated the NICETY of things; that pertaining to color, music, nature.

21. Thus, if there is the training and the desire (and it should be a part of the entity, whether from the purely mechanical use of the lense as an artist photographer or as an etcher, or as one that would use the brush), some part of color and of music and of nature should be the awakening or development through the period of the entity’s preparation for its own life experience.

22. Yet those things pertaining to political influences, political activities, as will regulate state or nation, will necessarily be a portion of the entity’s experience; though more pertaining to a universal consciousness as related to such, - as may be had from the development of the correct respect for the artistic abilities, for such may thereby be better controlled by the entity.

23. Then, in giving the periods of activity in the earth, these may be given - but when the changes have been wrought by those suggestions (as will be seen from experiences in the earth), it may be better gained as to what the entity should do, and how the entity might apply itself in this sojourn.

24. Before this, then, the entity was in the land of the present nativity, but during the early periods when there were those disturbances wrought by the activity of the minister of a church, - as of one Marshall Whittaker.

25. The entity then was the minister, or the associate minister, who caused the uprising and the condemnation of children who saw, who heard, who experienced the voices of those in the inter-between.

26. And because of the entity’s condemning there was brought a hardship into the experience of the entity, especially the adopting of that rule of “ducking” others.

27. Hence the entity physically has experienced the ducking, from its own self, in its daily activities, - which will grow to become more and more of a hindrance in self, UNLESS there will be set aright that incoordination between the mental mind, or the physical mind and the spiritual mind of the individual entity, as related to condemnation of things in others.

28. And these, as indicated in the present, are conflicting emotions in the experience of the entity. Hence, unless changes are made, these will grow to be more and more of such a nature as to cause the entity to turn within. For, such conditions will bring that tendency for the entity to subjugate its opinions, when these become expressions, especially after the twelfth, thirteenth and fourteenth year of experience.

29. Hence, have those changes - in the manner suggested - before such periods come about.

30. Before that we find that the entity was active in the Grecian land, when there were depicted or portrayed by individuals the expressions of body, as well as the expressions of groups; that made for the expanding of the mind as to the beauty of body, the beauty of expression, the beauty of the manner of expression as became the early periods when there were those attempts to portray group activity or group thought by that of individual expression.

31. Hence those tendencies in the understanding of the arts as Art, and as a means for the expression of same to impress or control or direct or train or educate others.

32. Then the entity was in the name Agalon, and we may in the present find some of those same expressions as changes come. This depends much upon the manner in which the suggestions are made for the correction of those tenets innate in the soul-entity, from the experience just indicated as Whittaker.

33. Before that the entity was in that land when there were those preparations for the journeying of the children of promise from the Egyptian land; when the leaders Moses, Aaron and Hur brought about those experiences.

34. The entity then was of the same age and an associate of Joshua, who became the spiritual leader even to Moses in the interpreting of his experiences in the activities through that journey; as well as the companion of Joshua.

35. For, the entity then was the friend of Joshua, being the brother of the girl whom Joshua loved [See [5241]], yet who on the journey - before their wedding - died of tuberculosis.

36. Thus that innate feeling, the entity will find, may be expressed in hearing of, reading of, ANY persecutions; and especially of the suffering of those from tuberculosis.

37. The name then was Jarael. The entity experienced turmoils through that sojourn. Yet, when there were those experiences after the hardships and the early portion of the journey, when there were those meetings between Moses in Mt. Sinai, Joshua’s interpretation to Jarael brought the greater spiritual concept - and aroused much of the entity’s experience in the material sojourn before that.

38. Then the entity gained and became as a leader, as one who - with many of its associates or companions in the present - may, with some direction (dependent upon the suggestion made), become AGAIN as a leader and a director in this material experience.

39. Before that the entity was in the Egyptian land; in that position of being very active with the latter period of Ra-Ta’s return, or Ra-Ta’s supervision of the spiritual life.

40. For the entity then, as Sugita, was chosen as the active priest at the demise - or the change in Ra-Ta’s conscious activity.

41. It was a period that might be questioned, for it began the change that brought dissension in other lands because of the lack of this entity’s keeping so constant an attendance in the activities of the emissaries that made for the relationships with other lands.

42. Hence the great need for the manner in which the suggestions may be made by those who would correct the condition of the entity in the present. While the correction is for a physical condition, it is necessarily of a much deeper significance to the spiritual and mental attitude of the entity in this particular sojourn. For, upon same may depend whether the life becomes a constructive one with the awaken- ing of the spiritual import, or whether there is a turning of same to the material or secular forces in a material and mental gain.

43. Ready for questions.

44. (Q) What made me revert to the habit of bed wetting after having stopped? (A) Read what we have just given! This is not merely a physical condition, but it reverts to the disturbance the entity brought to others because of their beliefs, faiths or activities.

45. (Q) Why is it so difficult to awaken me at night from my sleep? (A) Read what we have just indicated. This is a reverting to that incoordinating condition that exists between the body or physical mind and the spirit or soul mind, see? These do not coordinate.

46. (Q) What shall I make my life work? (A) Let’s get well first, and then - as indicated - it will depend upon the choices as may be taken. Abilities lie especially in that direction as a spiritual advisor. Whether these shall take those directions as an artist or as the teacher depends upon the choice of the entity.

But educate the entity, or give it the possibilities in both directions.

Mechanical things are naturally a part, and will be a period of the entity’s experience. Consequently, details as related to any mechanical things are of interest; but let this be rather as a hobby than as a chosen profession.

47. (Q) From the playing of what musical instrument will I get most satisfaction? (A) The violin here, to be sure. We see, as indicated, - the entity gets the COLOR, rather than what is ordinarily called the tonal vibration, see? though, of course, the tonal vibration is that which PRODUCES color. For, of course, color and tone are just different rates of vibration.

48. (Q) Where and in what relationship have I been previously associated with the following: (A) (Interrupting) Let’s rather indicate these when there is that choosing, in the next two to three years, by the entity, of its life work - but AFTER this coordination is made, through those manners indicated; and through those channels indicated as best for same, in the present relationships.

49. (Q) Was there any relationship between me and my paternal grandfather? Why did he appear to my mother in a vision or dream at my birth? (A) Only as the assurety, because of that association between these entities in that journey along the way; which was the experience of the mother as it turned IN the way. [6/27/42 See 2772-1, Par. 65-A, in re [2779]‘s paternal grandfather, etc.]

50. We are through for the present.

Two copies to Parents Copy to Ass’n file

(7/7/42 GD’s note to parents: We feel this is one of the most unusual and extraordinary readings we have ever had, and it opens up a WORLD of seeking for us in many directions. Get Dave and Lucille Kahn] to put you in touch with Dr. Kuhn - he is a psychiatrist who has had some experience with the readings.

Mr. Cayce feels that [2779]‘s grandfather persuaded him to come to you at this time, instead of the other entity that you would naturally have attracted. There is so very much we don’t understand about such things. I am hoping that after [2779]‘s physical condition is corrected, we can clarify everything through another reading. Love, GD. [See note in Par. 49-A above.]

Dr. Kuhn [Dr. Leslie Kuhn, M.D.], when we last heard of him, was associated with Dr. Thomas Garrett, 1225 Park Avenue, N.Y.C. Please, when you find him, let us have his full name and address.)

Reports

Reports & Follow-up

R1. 3/13/43, 3/17/43 Edgar Cayce gave 2779-2 and 2779-3 in re vocational guidance.

R2. 6/22/44 Mr. [257]‘s letter: “[2779] who had the Life Reading and was told his condition was caused by a reincarnation kickback has met the condition and is well again.”

R3. 11/12/46 Dr. Gina Cerminara interviewed Mrs. [2771] in re case of her son [2779]:

(“There was not the intention of entering.” Implication of reading that entry was unusual, that there was not a complete coordination between mind and body.)

1. Was the birth actually unusual? Mrs. [2771]: YES. Every time I have been anesthetized I have had a psychic experience. While on the delivery table, I had the feeling I was going to die (this under ether). Then all at once I had a very distinct vision of [2772]‘s father, whom I had never seen except in pictures. He took my head in his hands, turned it back away from him, to look at [2772], who was standing with a son in his arms. When I came to, I said to the doctor, “Where’s my son?” The doctor said, “You women - always thinking you’re going to get what you want.” [This was before she actually knew she had a son. When she first saw [2772] she said “Your father sent me to you with a baby boy.”]

2. What was meant by the incomplete coordination between mind and body? Mrs. [2771]: He always seemed to be in a daze as a child, like a mind disconnected from its body; he seemed sort of out of this world. He had such big knowing eyes; they seemed filled with the greatest understanding and sympathy, like an old man.

3. Did he seem strange in infancy? Mrs. [2771]: Yes, in that he seemed in a daze and in that he seemed wise beyond his years. He never made a sound in the room (even at 5 months) till he knew we [the parents] were awake.

4. When did the bed-wetting begin? Mrs. [2771]: Just before […] [second child, a sister] was born. He was two and he knew that I was going to have another baby; he took good care of me. For a long time we thought it was a psychological mechanism well known to psychologists; the reverting to baby habits so that he wouldn’t feel replaced. We had psychiatric treatment for him when it kept up. This treatment was continued from the age of three to four, and again from eight to ten. It helped his adjustment generally - he had been high strung, apprehensive, studious, introverted, unsure of himself - but did not stop the bed-wetting. The psychiatric interviews also helped us [the parents] understand him and be more patient with him.

5. How frequent was the bed-wetting? Mrs. [2771]: Every night. We expected it. We never scolded him or blamed him, nor tried to make him unhappy over it. We tried all kinds of methods, advised by many doctors. As, no fluids after 3 o’clock, giving him salty foods and nothing to drink (supposed to absorb the fluids), etc.

6. Did you use suggestion with him, as the reading suggested? Mrs. [2771]: At first we did nothing about it, thinking that a hypnotist was necessary, and we didn’t want that. But then we thought we’d try suggestion ourselves. So I sat by his bedside and just as he was dropping off to sleep I said: “You’re going to be very happy, [2779]. You’re going to make many people happy. You’re going to do many kind things for people. Every person you meet you will do something kind for.” [Not that the suggestion was pointed at the past-life mental-cause rather than the present-life physical effect. GC]

The very first night we tried this, HE WAS DRY. We kept giving him the suggestion every night and he never wet the bed again until he went to camp on the 1st of August. The counselor knew nothing about the situation; he wet the bed all the time in camp. At the end of the first week we went out to visit him, and I spoke to the Camp Counselor about it, giving him the suggestion. He gave it to [2779] every night, and he stopped wetting the bed.

We continued giving the suggestion every night until the next September. Then one night we stopped, and he was dry just the same; and ever after that. The suggestion was no longer necessary. Very, very occasionally since then it has happened.

7. Did [2779] know about the reading? Mrs. [2771]: Yes, I told him about it, and asked him “Do you believe it, [2779]?” “Of course, Mommy. I believe in Miracles. Only grown-ups don’t.” He knew the content of the reading, but being half asleep he never knew he was getting the suggestion. He was a very heavy sleeper.

8. The reading describes him as being “gentle, tender, understanding, as not to be able to see the least thing suffer.” Is this true? Mrs. [2771]: Yes. Even as a small child, every time he asked for anything he asked it for somebody else. Once he wanted a party for a group of boys, which we gave for him. Afterwards we discovered that the reason he wanted it was to bring two boys together who had quarreled; he wanted them to like each other. he was never selfish in his thinking. So apparently he was consciously overcoming the sin of his past life; but subconsciously he needed full assurance of it.

He has always been very gentle and compassionate. When there’s any illness in the house he is very thoughtful. Finds just the right thing to do. Very kind and careful with animals.

9. What does the reading mean when it says he is sometimes a “tyrant in self?” Mrs. [2771]: He used to be very intolerant with […] [his sister] and had a ferocious temper at times. But this is largely gone.

10. Do you attribute the change in his character to the Cayce reading? Mrs. [2771]: No, not entirely. The psychiatric treatments did a great deal for him, but the reading did, too. As a small child he had been sensitive, shy, introverted. Now he has been rated by the Johnson O’Connor tests as a complete, perfect extrovert; high in leadership and perfectly adjusted. He is well-liked, social minded, not self-righteous, snobbish, or selfish; a swell person from every point of view. Undoubtedly the suggestion had a great deal to do with changing his character.

He likes spiritual reading. When he was at camp last he wrote and said he felt lost without it, and would we send him some. So we sent him some Emmet Fox.

11. Has he ever come in contact with a T.B. case? [See 2779-1, Par. 35, 36 in re T.B.] Mrs. [2771]: No.

12. Any additional information or comments? Mrs. [2771]: I think it’s interesting that Johnson O’Connor recommended architectural engineering to him as a profession. But I always thought he’d be good in law or politics, because he has a way with people. His reading says that he should go into law, or “political activities”; he had been a spiritual advisor to Moses. Not long ago he remarked (he never wanted to be a dentist like his father) that he might like to go into law.

13. How do you interpret the karma here? Mrs. [2771]: His soul’s conscience is eager to expiate the unhappiness it meted out in the past; hence his tolerance, his eagerness to make people happy, to interpret them to each other. He is very generous minded in interpreting people.

Dr. [2772]: He has a tremendous understanding of people. He can analyze them excellently. It is comparable to a physician’s diagnostic ability. He doesn’t blame them; he finds excuses for them.

R4. 11/50 GD’s note: Gina Cerminara’s book, MANY MANSIONS, just published by William Sloane Associates, Inc., N.Y., writes about this case [2779] in her chapters, SOME TYPES OF PHYSICAL KARMA, and KARMA IN SUSPENSION, pp. 56-59 and 83.

R5. 10/11/58 Aunt of [2779], Mrs. [2936], reported: “[2779] is a lawyer, doing very nicely; married to a very lovely girl, expecting a baby.”

Background

Background

B1. 6/27/42 Parents obtained Life Readings 2771-1 and 2772-1.

B2. 7/3/42 Parents submitted questions which they had worked out with young [2779]‘s cooperation. No physical cause could be found for his bedwetting; they hoped the Life Reading would offer an explanation and suggestions for help. [See further background information under 2779-1, Par. R3, interview with the mother, Mrs. [2771], by Dr. Gina Cerminara.]

Mentioned Entities

Entity (Cayce Term), Gina Cerminara, Soul, Joshua, Egypt, Incarnation, Moses, Karma, New York City, Ra Ta, Records (Atlantean), Vibration, A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment), Visions, Air Shafts (Pyramid), Astrology, David Kahn, Dreams, Free Will, Gertrude Cayce

Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 2779-1, ReadingID 9941.