Reading 2809-1

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Date: 9/9/1942 Sex: M Age: 55 ReadingID: 9998

This Psychic Reading given by Edgar Cayce at the office of the Association, Arctic Crescent, Virginia Beach, Va., this 9th day of September, 1942, in accordance with request made by the self - Mr. [2809], new Associate Member of the Ass”n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc., through his wife, Mrs. [635].

[Edgar Cayce; Hugh Lynn Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno.]

Born January 14, 1887, in Howe Valley, Kentucky. Time of Reading 10:15 to 10:50 A. M. Eastern War Time. …, Florida.

1. HLC: You will give the relation of this entity and the universe, and the universal forces; giving the conditions which are as personalities, latent and exhibited in the present life; also the former appearances in the earth plane, giving time, place and the name, and that in each life which built or retarded the development for the entity; giving the abilities of the present entity; that to which it may attain, and how. You will answer the questions, as I ask them:

2. EC: (In going back over years from the present - ” - ‘39 - disappointments, discouragements - ‘33 - very good season - ‘30 - ‘31 - ” etc., on back to birth date.)

3. Yes, we have the records here of that entity now known as or called [2809].

4. In giving an interpretation[s] of the records as we find them here, there is much from which to choose. But these we choose with the desire and purpose that this information may be a helpful experience for the entity; enabling the entity to better fulfill those purposes for which it entered this present sojourn.

5. That there are definite urges, latent and manifested, is indicated in what might be called a composite of the urges that arise from the so-called astrological aspects, - or from the sojourns of the entity (that may be indicated) between appearances in the earth, and the activities of the entity in the material plane. These we find indicated:

6. One very ambitious; a good business personality; easily discouraged and becomes very pessimistic.

7. One inclined to condemn, or to so indicate as to faults in others; and keeps self oft in the slough of despair by its own attempt in reasoning.

8. These may be very good, if used aright. But one thing the entity MUST develop, if it would attain to that which is the better in this particular experience; not to be so pessimistic when conditions are apparently adverse to the entity’s attempt in varied fields of activity.

9. There are inclinations and tendencies towards those things that have to do with state or county, or political forces. And these may prove very disturbing and disappointing to the entity, as will be seen from the application of self through those experiences in the earth.

10. In choosing these interpretations, the entity should - as is indicated for the entity here; in self as well as in others - magnify the virtues, minimize the faults.

11. There are spiritual and mental values also. These the entity tends to neglect.

12. These are, then, those influences that are the composite of the urges in the experiences.

13. Astrologically, - we find Uranus, Jupiter, Venus, Neptune as influences. Thus we find those influences which bring the associations with those in authority in many places; as associations with those things that will become rather as extremes, and apparently without ANY physical reason of doing so; things that will have to do with properties, townships, schools, people, rather than those things because of things. Hence, no activity in manufacturing of articles or those from products would be an experience of a helpful nature to the entity; rather inclined to be of material disturbance - or, in common parlance, it would oft give the entity headaches.

14. In Jupiter we find the universal consciousness, - and all the more need, because of both the extremes in Uranus and Neptune, to have the fortitude - when things or conditions appear the darkest - to put on not merely a front, but knowing deep within self that as the correct principles or tenets are applied, - spiritual, mental AND material, - these will bring that into the experience that is for creative or helpful influences.

15. Do not neglect the mental and spiritual aspect of the relationships to the fellow man, as well as to thy Maker.

16. As to the appearances in the earth, and the influences that these bear upon the manner in which the entity conducts itself, or thinks, or carries on latent within self, - we find:

17. Before this the entity was in the land of the present nativity, during those trying periods of the American Revolution.

18. Then in the name Jeremiah Meeks, the entity was one who was entrusted with some of those activities that were a part of the experience of Arnold and Andre’. Thus those conditions brought disappointments, those periods of activity in which there were condemnations because of the entity’s associations with those individuals. Not that this was a premeditated activity of the entity, but the friendship and the association brought condemnation from others.

19. Thus the entity finds in the present experiences that when disappointments arise, and conditions from circumstance as in association, the entity becomes discouraged; and at times says hard things about others.

20. Remember, there is a law - divine - with what measure ye mete to others, in thy conversation, in thy activity, it will be measured to thee again.

21. Take thought oft, then, to speak well or keep silent - of self, of others. Not as an extravagancy in any sense, but the truth, ever. These have brought discouragements. Then meet same with the optimistic abilities to attain to that oneness with the universal consciousness, which brings of itself its reward - as does virtue, as does kindness, as does patience, as does brotherly love.

22. Hate, malice, all those things that make people or individuals afraid bring just the opposite into the experience of individuals.

23. The entity was then associated in the exchange and the settling of large tracts of land.

24. Thus interest may be manifested in such in the present experience.

25. Before that the entity was in the French land, during those periods of the early activities in that period when the peoples of various lands rose in defense of an ideal - or the Crusade period.

26. There the entity was in the capacity of the instructor, or a school teacher, as would be commonly called today; yet in those periods they were rather ones to whom groups of the young were entrusted for care, not only of the physical but of the mental and spiritual education.

27. These brought periods when the exercising of the activities brought about the experience in the present when the entity takes the decided views, almost to be at variance to someone else, to get their reaction. This at times makes for a hardship, rather, in the entity’s experience, as through that period; it makes the entity severe upon critical severity of others.

28. The name then was Lenen Schuleyer. In the experience the entity materially and mentally gained. In the spiritual aspects it brought to self the retarding influences. In the present will be seen the necessity for the use of the mental self to attain to the correct evaluation of mental and spiritual aspects in the experience of the individual entity.

29. Also there should be the recognition in the experience that as ye sow, so shall ye reap. These are unchangeable laws; these are inevitable; they are divine laws. And the law must be kept, whether it be of a filial, material, mental or spiritual relationship.

30. Keep the law, - not merely the letter but the spirit. For, as has been given, “My spirit beareth witness with thy spirit.”

31. Then, with what spirit approach ye the problems of today, tomorrow, or for eternity? For, life is continuous, and ye continue to meet thyself.

32. In thy meditation and in thy consideration, oft take counsel with that which is thy ideal. And stand aside, or measure up, as to see what ye must appear to others. Others are to be dealt with, and they - too - will measure to thee with that same spirit ye measure to them.

33. Before that the entity was in the Roman land, during those periods when there were those expansions of the Roman empire into northern Africa, into western Asia, into the Holy Land; during those periods when the Master walked in the earth.

34. Then the entity was among those put in authority of a garrison in the Judean hills, portions of Galilee as well as portions of the land over which the Master went.

35. The entity then was in the name of Teular, and was garrisoned in the old city of Samaria.

36. In that experience the entity became very hard, very severe; attempting to keep the letter of the law, rather than listening to or applying the spiritual aspects of same.

37. Not that the law is to be set aside, but brotherly love is the spirit of the law, as well as the letter - then, as in the present. For it is a universal law, and is the basis of that freedom as He gave in those ministrations through His material manifestation in the earth; that ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.

38. From that experience we find in the present the abilities for the entity to understand or apply the law as respecting things or individuals, in a way and manner in which it may be turned to avert the application of same, or to shield those that may be useful in the experience materially. These have proven, do prove, quite questionable in the entity’s experience.

39. Before that the entity was in the Egyptian land, when there was the Ibex Rebellion - or when the household of the King rebelled. The entity then was in that position as the leader of the army, or the rebellious forces; and aided in setting up the activities in Ibex. While these came to naught, later, those disappointments and periods of activity there brought that influence in which the entity at times is severe, or in its activity may be in contempt of self as well as contemptuous to others - because of the disappointments which came into the experience then, as Ja-Ja-Guar.

40. As to the abilities of the entity in the present, that to which it may attain, and how:

41. First, know what is thy ideal, - spiritually, mentally, materially. Know they must be dependent one upon the other; just as the faith of thy fathers is dependent upon the mercy, the love of God the Father; just as the adherence to those principles interpreted in the material relationships brings harmony and peace and prosperity. For, these are one - if they are bound together in brotherly love.

42. In whatever field of service as may be chosen the entity may succeed, if there is the continued, the concerted application of those tenets just given above; knowing that with what measure ye mete it will be measured to thee again.

43. Do not become so easily discouraged, but know that more than ninety percent of fault - when such arises - lies within self.

44. As to the activities, - we find that those in which the entity may teach are the better, or administer those conditions as might relate to education in those fields having to do with consideration of the spiritual, the mental and the material lives of individuals; or with real estate, or with properties of such natures. In these the entity may succeed in material ways.

45. But do not put materiality before spirituality. They are one, if the activities are in keeping with that opportunity thy God gives thee in the earth.

46. Ready for questions.

47. (Q) Considering the entity’s present situation, which type of activity would be recommended for him just now? (A) That as may have to do with his own State, of supervising lands that may be a part of Government activity; whether as to camps or the use of land as a means for preparation of defense, or of such. These might be well. Or, in the preparation for activity in relation to education in the land.

48. (Q) Should Senator Claud Pepper of Florida and Congressman Joe Hendricks of my District be approached? (A) When the entity chooses as to what part or what phase of such activity it would engage in, either of these would be a part of, then approach same. There is evidently within the State the activity in which there may be camp supervision, or the purchase or lease, or the condemning of lands. In such the entity may act in the capacity as the go-between between the individuals and the government activity.

49. (Q) Considering the propositions surrounding Mrs. Savage and the grounds and dormitories left by her husband: Should I undertake to develop this proposition in any way? (A) This may be a proposition in which there may be taken over the grounds and the activities for use by the Government for a training station of special character of service. And this attaining may be in such a manner in which the entity may use same, after the emergency has passed, for the unfoldment of those activities for greater expansion or development in teaching.

50. (Q) What type of camp program would be most suitable for that place? (A) An induction camp, or for general training, or the lands are of such natures they might be used for special fields in either the commandos (?) or the air.

51. (Q) Are there any other contacts that you would recommend for me? (A) When the entity has chosen the field, or that place, there are many outlets. Any of those who are in contact with those who subscribe to such, - either in the Army, the Navy, or in any of those fields in which these activities go. It is well to use all approaches to same.

52. We are through for the present.

Copy to Self ” ” Ass’n file

Reports

Reports & Follow-up

R1. 9/22/42 Wife [635]‘s letter:

…, Florida

Dear [257]

Did you ever feel dazed, so to speak, and almost lose count of time? Well, that is how I have felt these past days. And it has just come to me that neither of us have thanked you or Hugh Lynn for the amazing reading. I call it that, for it is nothing short of it, to me.

I can’t put into reading words just what I think [2809]‘s reaction was to it. But knowing him as I think I do, it was nothing short of “subduing”. That is the word that came into my mind when I looked at him after the first going over it. He has read it many times, which of course, is the thing to do. I tell him he should read it each day or many times each day until he has memorized it. But of course he doesn’t do that.

It would be hard to tell you how much we thank you for this, [257]. To follow this he would have to turn-about-face, go the other way entirely, which one of his disposition, will be hard to do. But as times goes on I hope and think he will be better able to follow and get a new lease on life. I am trying not to push any idea on him, I don’t know whether that is right or not, but I do notice him referring to the reading once in [a] while. To me that is a good sign.

R2. 3/10/43 Mrs. [635] wired for an emergency Physical Reading for him. See 2809-2.

R3. GD’s note: In the middle ‘40’s I heard that Mr. [2809] was fairly successful in the real estate business.

Background

Background

B1. 8/42 [2809]‘s letter to [257]:

Mr. [257] Hotel … Washington, D.C.

Dear Mr. [257]

You probably do not remember me and my knowledge of you is more hearsay than actual acquaintance. You do remember my wife though, who was Miss [635].

It is at a suggestion of Mr. Cayce that I am writing you.

Each of us find ourselves wanting to be some part of this great war, and for best results one should try to do what one is best fitted for. And to be perfectly frank my wish to be a part is not only from the standpoint of service to my country but also a job for myself.

…Has for its part a Naval Air Base, a plant building small boats and a plant making certain parts for air planes. But each of these plants have brought in with them the larger part of their personnel, although they are Government projects, with the exception of the office force, guards, (and I might say here, that War Veterans are given precedence in all employment), and their day laborers.

I am not sure just what my past experiences will best fit me for in a present job with the Government. Although I am not listed as a Veteran, during the First World War I was with the railroad Co., and they would not release me for war duties. After the war was over I left the railroad Company and was employed by a retail clothing house for two years as Manager. It was then that we came to Florida. That was in 1925. Since then five years was spent as automobile dealer and the balance of the time I have sold real estate and built and sold homes for myself.

You know the different branches of service, and what I am asking you to do is, knowing my experiences in business as I have given them to you, what procedure will you kindly suggest for me to follow in securing some kind of a job with the Government.

This is asking a lot of you, but knowing that you are in touch with the different departments I feel that you can best help me.

If you will help me to secure something, I assure you I will always conduct myself in such a way that your trust will never be misplaced.

Miss [635] wishes to be remembered to you. With kindest personal regards, I am Very truly yours [2809]

B2. 8/30/42 [2809]‘s letter to EC: ”…Now about the questions. If we don’t get the question in the right form, you will know the sense of it and in asking - word it as it should be. Here goes and they may sound simple to you. Having passed more than half of the span of my years what work am I best fitted for? What contacts would be the most beneficial? I am very well acquainted with both Senator Pepper of Fla. and Congressman Hardricks of my district, would it help any to contact either or both to secure what may be suggested? Should I remain in my present town or state? Why is it that I have not been able to secure positions when the fellow right behind me will get the job?”

B3. 9/4/42 [2809]‘s letter to EC:

Dear Edgar,

Since writing you and outlining my questions, I’d like to add another one.

About two years ago a Mr. Savage from Kentucky bought 3000 acres of land about eight miles from … His intentions were to build a college for boys and girls who were unable to pay for college education. In other words they paid small entrance fee and worked for their education on farm and in dormitories.

During the two years he built two dormitories - one each for boys and girls, housing 25 each, recreation hall, small library, large dining hall and kitchen, chapel, and two or three bungalows for families and teachers - besides the farm buildings.

A few months ago Mr. Savage died. Since then the school has been closed, leaving only a caretaker on the place (I forgot to say this is a Methodist school).

Yesterday I talked with Mrs. Savage, widow of the deceased, in regard as to what could be done with the place that would be an advantage to the town and community.

Should I try in any [way] to get the lease or caretakers for this? Is there anything you could suggest? Now there is another point - could I get it? What would I do with it after getting it?

This may seem far-fetched and out of order. If it is, please ignore it. It was just a thought in my mind.

We are trying to be patient, as you told us to be, but I’ll be frank - it is hard and I know these things are not done overnight.

Mentioned Entities

Entity (Cayce Term), Law of Moses, Book of Job, Florida, Ideal, Resurrection Appearances, A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment), Egypt, Hugh Lynn Cayce, Incarnation, Jesus Christ, Kentucky, Purpose, Records (Atlantean), Rome, Universal Consciousness, Africa, Astrology, France, Galilee

Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 2809-1, ReadingID 9998.