TEXT OF READING 3823-1 F 59 (Gov. Office Worker)
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Date: 11/20/1934 Sex: F Age: 59 ReadingID: 11427
This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at the David E. Kahn home, 44 West 77th St., Apt. 14-W, New York City, this 20th day of November, 1934, in accordance with request made by the self - Miss [3823], new Active member of the Ass”n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc., recommended by Miss [681], and Mrs. [264].
[Edgar Cayce; Hugh Lynn Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno.]
Born November 28, 1875, (Sunday, A. M.), in Calumet, Michigan. Time of Reading … Pl., N.W., 11:55 to 12:30 Noon - Eastern Standard Time. Wash., D.C. (Life Reading Suggestion)
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EC: Yes, we have the entity here, and those relations with the universe and universal forces, that are latent and manifested in the personalities of the entity now known as or called [3823].
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In entering the present experience we find the entity coming under the influences from the astrological aspects of those things that have made for very peculiar and unusual experiences in this sojourn of the entity. And while the interests of the entity for those things that would or do make for the soul development have been paramount, there have been at least two very definite periods and changes in the activities of the entity. For during a portion of the present experience and sojourn, those conditions that surrounded the body that were more of the material nature made for and have produced those experiences where the thoughts, the purposes, the activities were more in not self-indulgence but rather in self-glory, self-praise, self rather than that aid to others. Yet when there have been the extremities, or the physical needs of the body, these extremities have brought in the experience those associations and those seekings for that innate, that longing which has been a portion of the dream of the entity from its earlier periods and early associations; and during these there has been that which has come very close to those expressions where the entity has seen deep into the unseen forces and influences in the material affairs of others. This has not always been pleasant. To make these more constructive, more effective in the lives of those whom the entity may contact will be for the greater activity, and for those things that may bring to the experience of the entity in the present that which will be the more satisfying. And bringing contentment and happiness in these periods when there must come again, and will come those visions and those dreams, those longings not for the pleasures of an earthly experience but rather as a joy in a service for the fellow man - during these latter portions of the entity’s sojourn in this experience.
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As to the astrological aspects, we find these varying quite from that ordinarily termed the astrological chart or astrological map for one under these environs. For the signs more of those things that are as omens, as periods in the experience of the entity’s application in the present sojourn from its activities in individual sojourns in the earth, have brought and do bring much more than all the astrological aspects. For being, as it were, in a temperament - through the driving at times of its own mental self - these that are as from the emotions, rather than from those innate that have been awakened or may be awakened - have become the impelling influences in the experience of this entity, [3823] as called. For while the sojourns in the earth make for those periods that have seen the various activities in the affairs of people, the interest of the entity is in people, places, and conditions of people in places, rather than in the minutia or detail that has become at times the driving forces - and the necessity of the body to supply same for the individual needs. Hence the life has become something of a drudge, rather than being purposeful in every act, in every day, in every contact, that such may be more helpful, more hopeful to others; thus keeping for self the well-rounded life that there may be the better, the greater service rendered in an individual experience. For the soul, as it seeks expression in a material world, is not for naught - but rather that it, the soul, in its environs, may be prepared for the greater appreciation, the greater understanding, the greater application of the spiritual realms in which it has its inception.
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Hence, in the experience before this we find the entity was in that land about Fort Dearborn, during those periods when there were the attempts of many to gain a greater understanding by the spiritual concepts and teachings to those of the greater nations - the Red Men; or those of the Atlanteans that had come to these portions of the land.
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The entity, feeling in self - as it were - that driving influence whereunto there might have been builded in those associations a greater understanding, such as one of an emissary or missionary, attempted to use the mystic forces of those peoples in the activities among its own associates; becoming an outcast for a period from all. Yet when turmoils and strifes arose, and those periods when there were the gathering of all the nations of these peoples, the entity found that the material association - or what may be termed in a material world - blood became thicker than water. And coming as a warning through the activities of the entity of that which would shortly come to pass, it then faded away - through being rejected by all.
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In the name then Else Dundee, the soul progressed; the physical body lost from the material standpoint; yet those longings, those activities in the entity for those expressions that may be seen among many peoples, find their expression and manifestation in the desire to seek, to delve into that which has prompted and does prompt the moving of individual groups and peoples towards a certain association, or under certain environs, to bring about certain experiences in their daily life.
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These are well, if they do not become stumblingblocks to the entity in the present. But know, rather than in the satisfying of self, the satisfying of those things that make for pleasures and ease for the body, the mental self may be so guided and so schooled in doing the very best in every activity, so that it may bring harmony, peace and contentment; so that even though the body may be burned, if the soul has that love, that understanding, it withstands all and finds peace and harmony in same.
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Before that, then, we find the entity was in that land known as the Roman, during those periods of the persecutions of many of those that were as the teachers and the ministers; during those periods of that ruler whom the world has called the Tyrant; though he came in such a guise that there might be builded in the hearts of those that turned not away, that strength in which there might be indeed founded the love for Him who walked in Galilee.
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The entity then was among the peoples of the hills where there were oft the gatherings of those to listen to the teachings of those that had come as the sons and daughters of the Roman soldiery, that had been in the proletariat; and those that had come from the Grecian lands - and as the days drew near for the various seasons of their activities, as in the days when there were the celebrations of the feasts of the harvest; and in the days of the release from bondage to those peoples.
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The entity then was among those peoples that were taken to suffer in the arena, or to become the toys of those that had lost their desire save only for self-indulgences.
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In the experience the entity, in the name Guewn, suffered bodily; lost in its spiritual development, for it joined rather with those in saving the body that it might have the pleasures, than the sufferings in the mind; bringing for the experiences in the present those turmoils and doubts when it has come to the point of deciding to what, to which way there may be the turning of the mental and spiritual self for a more perfect understanding. Yet if the entity takes into consideration its inner development, its inner urge, it may know that there must be the answers from within rather than from without. Not that one has attained because of this or that vision, but rather that the soul has experiences from within that blessedness which has come from, “Well done; be not afraid, I am with thee.” These come to those that know the MASTER’S face!
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Before that we find the entity was in the Atlantean land, during those periods when there was the abandoning of the land owing to the periods of destruction.
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The entity was among those that came to what is now the southern portion of the land of the present nativity, or in what is called Yucatan - then it was called Yuk.
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In that sojourn the entity was among those that aided in establishing there the priests and the priestesses in the activity of the teachings of the peoples as related to the Law of One.
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In the latter portion of the entity’s sojourn there, many of those lands now known as the Egyptian - then of Mu or Ra - came to pass the messages for the building of the activities and of those things that made for the preservation of the thoughts and teachings of those people in that land.
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Then, as to the abilities of the entity in the present, and that to which it may attain and how:
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First study in self as to what are the promptings of thine inner self; and then apply that thou hast gained regarding the relationships of others to their own peculiar field of activity owing to their own personal development. For as a teacher in such fields of endeavor or activity may the entity gain for self the greater knowledge. Yet let none persuade thee that thou canst pass up any other way than through Him that gave, “I am the Way; I am the water of life; I am the bread of life; take my cross and follow me.”
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Ready for questions.
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(Q) Just how should the entity go about to prepare herself for her work as a teacher? (A) The preparations have long been in formations. We would follow these; yet hold to the Cross alone.
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(Q) To whom could I go to equip myself for this work? (A) Best to study within self. And know that the 14th, 15th, 16th and 17th of John means YOU!
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(Q) Considering my present development, would it benefit me to remain in the A.M.O.M.A.; an organization with which I am at present affiliated? (A) If the conscience lets thee, with that thou will gain from Him, remain. Materially, yes. Spiritually, no.
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(Q) Considering my life work, which has been outlined, would it be wise for me to make any business connection with “Avoculon” mine in Canada? (A) Yes, it will pay. [See 3823-1, Par. R5.]
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(Q) Also would it be wise to make any business connection with the Rainbow Gold Mines Syndicate at Grants Pass, Oregon? and how? (A) Eventually; but not in the immediate do we find it trustworthy - in its deeper self. Not in the present.
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(Q) In just what sort of teaching work should the entity enter? (A) Those lessons that are gained in the study of that given.
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We are through with this reading.
Copy to Self ” ” Ass’n file
Reports
Reports & Follow-up
R1. 11/22/34 Mrs. [264]‘s ltr. to EC: ”…Miss [3823] came around last night, and had me go over her reading with her, and she is SO HAPPY over it. I believe she is really going to use it to the very best of her understanding. I believe the information contained in that reading touched the very depth of her being, and she understood many things in her life, which has made life so difficult for her before…”
R2. 11/25/34 Letter, enclosing two pages of questions on business, spirit communication, past associations, etc.: It is with great appreciation of your meritorious reading of Nov. 20th that I write again for similar aid and consideration of request for further knowledge.
Understanding as I do the wonderful cooperation I was extended, I hope to be able to further your interest more befittingly in the near future.
I have a deep concern in these questions and not a mere idle curiosity as your intuition has evinced in complying with my first request so promptly. May I receive the same consideration in this request for a more extended reading since “Avoculon” in Canada is increasing rapidly towards Dec. 1, and “New Mexico Prod. Co.” is retarding slowly towards Spring, as you know.
Thanking you in advance, I am
Sincerely, [3823]
Enclosure: Ten Dollars.
R3. 12/17/34 HLC’s ltr. to [3823]:
Washington, D.C.
Dear Miss [3823]
I am sure that you must be wondering what has become of us, or perhaps by now you have given up even doing that. We were called from New York by the unexpected death of my mother’s brother, necessitating a trip to Hopkinsville, Ky., which we made by car. On the return we were forced to travel a very dangerous road covered with snow and ice of the recent bad spell of weather that was very general over the central portion of the country. We had the misfortune to turn the car over on one of the mountain roads. While no one was injured severely we were delayed and Dad was unable to give readings for some time. We are glad to be back now. The readings and other work of the organization is proceeding as usual.
I am sorry that we have not been able to make a definite appointment for your reading as requested in your letter of November 25. Due to peculiar circumstances surrounding a cancellation we were able to secure your life reading very soon after requested. In leaving New York it was necessary to cancel a week of appointments, so your application will be made as quickly as possible in the order as received. Before making this appointment I would like to take up with you several points involved in your last questions.
From experience we have found it unsatisfactory to attempt to combine physical questions with mental and spiritual ones, or with those pertaining to business relations. If you will consider for a moment the focus for obtaining each type of information you will understand the reason for this. As I am sure you understand you are not dealing with an ordinary mind-reader or spiritualist. We believe that information secured through the readings on physical conditions of a body is obtained direct from the afflicted person through the attunement of the superconscious mind of the psychic with the person on whom the reading is being given, and that the information for the life reading comes from the indestructible records made by each soul in its journey through many various states of consciousness. Information on business subjects must come from two sources, either from the connection of the individual seeking the information with the business condition (their astrological and numerological and karmic connections) or from the conditions existing at the time and the minds of the individual directly concerned.
For the information on business conditions the same source as the life reading data offers some interesting material, but with the focus there it would be impossible at the same time to center and focus upon the actual conditions and minds of the individuals concerned. The reading insist upon a basic theory of free will. In other words the wills of individuals concerned, yours and others, definitely affect and may alter the trend of events.
I hope that I have made myself clear. My whole object is to clarify for you the approach to this particular channel of information in order that your reading will be entirely what you desire so far as that is in your power. We do not favor a reading taken which directs the channel to conditions and minds unless those conditions are entirely under the control of the individual seeking the information, or the minds are those of individuals desiring such information. While perhaps not as definite and accurate from a material standpoint the information on material problems is better and more constructive when sought as related to the entity seeking the information. Such information will clarify your attitude and activity but will not be concerned with actual conditions or with others controlling such conditions. Information that for a time seems sensational and helpful to the point of giving one individual an advantage over another may become a very destructive influence. I am sure that your own understanding will make this clear to you as you meditate upon the approach you are making to this channel.
Your mental and spiritual questions may be reworded and fitted into a reading for your own development in relation to these conditions. Your physical questions would of necessity come under an entirely different reading.
In case you did not retain a copy of your questions I am inclosing one. I will be very glad to assist you in any way possible in arranging these questions and will appreciate an early reply in order that your appointment may be set.
Sincerely yours, Hugh Lynn Cayce, Manager
R4. GD’s note: Subsequently Miss [3823] suffered an automobile accident and obtained three physical readings: See 1/26/35 3823-2; 5/3/35 3823-3; and, 7/13/35 3823-4.
R5. 10/6/58 Mr. Carrington’s letter:
The Northern Miner (Letterhead) 116 Richmond Street West Toronto 1, Canada Telephone Empire 8-3484
Mr. Albert E. Turner, 300 - 14th Street, Virginia Beach, Va., U.S.A.
Dear Sir:
Avocalon Mining Syndicate Limited sold its assets in 1939 to Aurora Mines Limited. The Avocalon charter was cancelled in 1952. We have no record that the Aurora Mines was ever successful in arranging finances and as far as we know that company is also defunct.
Considerable work was done by the Avocalon company in 1935 when a shaft was sunk and development carried out on the 100 ft. level. Some interesting gold values were encountered but our records do not show that any ore shoots were outlined.
Yours very truly,
THE NORTHERN MINER
[signed] John W. Carrington Editor
Background
Background
B1. 11/13/34 Mrs. [264]‘s ltr. to EC: ”…Mr. Cayce, I am writing you concerning a Miss [3823] who came to see me yesterday afternoon, after having been told about you and the readings by Miss [681]. Miss [3823] came with about fifty questions written out, such as she would ask a medium, I suppose; from how long she would be on this earth plane, on to asking advice about stock in three gold mines, also stating that all through her life she had had marvelous opportunities and had always miserably failed, and is now practically penniless.
“I talked to her gently and patiently for over an hour, advised her to get a Life Reading, as that seemed to be her greatest need, to find her place in life. I told her three questions to ask, and told her she might try asking three or four of the others, but I could not promise they would be answered, as they were not the type of questions following a life reading. She is writing you today. Just thought the above information would help you in understanding why I advised a life reading for her. I told her to write you she had talked with me. She needs help physically, mentally, and spiritually. She is a bright, active woman and a life reading COULD mean a lot to her…”
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Summary
A life reading for a 59-year-old woman, exploring her past lives, spiritual development, and guidance on teaching work, with questions about business investments and organizational affiliations.
People: Miss [681], Mrs. [264], Hugh Lynn Cayce, John W. Carrington, Albert E. Turner
Places: Calumet, Michigan, New York City, Fort Dearborn, Yucatan, Atlantis, Rome, Canada, Grants Pass, Oregon
Concepts: past-life in Atlantis, past-life in Roman era, past-life as Else Dundee, Law of One, soul development, astrological influences, inner guidance, spiritual vs material
Referenced readings: 3823-2, 3823-3, 3823-4
Mentioned Entities
Entity (Cayce Term), Soul, Incarnation, Astrology, Canada, New York City, Atlantis, Dreams, Egypt, Hugh Lynn Cayce, John (Apostle), Law of One, Rome, Visions, Crucifixion, David Kahn, Free Will, Galilee, Gladys Davis, Greece
Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 3823-1, ReadingID 11427.