Reading 4329-1

TEXT OF READING 4329-1 F 58 (Practical Nurse)

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Date: 3/30/1926 Sex: F Age: 58 ReadingID: 12148

This Psychic Reading given by Edgar Cayce at his office, 115 West 35th Street, Virginia Beach, Va., this 30th day of March, 1926, in accordance with request made by self - Mrs. [4329], via Mr. Frank E. Mohr.

[Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno.]

Time of Reading 3:30 P. M. Eastern Standard Time. …, Florida.

1. GC: You will go over this body carefully, examine it thoroughly, and tell me the conditions you find at the present time. You will diagnose the case thoroughly, giving the cause of the existing conditions, also the treatment for the cure and relief of this body.

2. EC: Now, we find there are those abnormal conditions with this body, many of which may be assisted and which will give much relief to the body throughout. In the various effects as are produced by this condition, the effect or results in various portions of the system becomes varied.

3. Now, these are conditions as we find them in this body. First:

4. IN THE BLOOD SUPPLY, this we find shows at times the lack of the eliminations, or of the balanced condition in the functioning of organs produced BY poor elimination. Hence there is carried, again and again, in the blood stream, that that should be eliminated through their regular channels. The effect of this is to produce the various conditions as are seen, both in the capillary circulation, or external portions of body, and that as is seen in the disturbance to the rebuilding, replenishing, forces in the system. Now, we find there is a cause for this action of this condition, other than that of a NORMAL causation, as would be termed from a pathological condition. This is produced by the effect of the sympathetic system through the action of suggestion and desire from within the system, and this portion of the physical attempting to eliminate, from that purely material portion of the body, those conditions, brings about this changing of effect as is produced in body.

5. IN THE NERVE SYSTEM, this very good in many respects, yet often this goes to pieces to the distraction almost of the physical. This produced, again, by the strain under which the body labors, physically and mentally, at times.

6. IN THE FUNCTIONING OF THE ORGANS THEMSELVES, other than that as is produced by the accentuation of this condition in various portions, as seen from the exterior forces.

7. Brain forces very good.

8. That in the lungs very good.

9. Heart’s action abnormal, though not organic conditions.

10. Trouble with the throat, ear, eyes, etc.; that as the normal condition from the existing forces as are evidenced in the body.

11. In the digestive system we find the greatest distresses as are produced in the system at the PRESENT. This from the over-taxation of the liver and spleen, through the action of the pancreas and their secretions. THIS produced (this taxation to the kidneys, see?) by the overflow of these conditions in the system.

12. The rest of the portions of the body in their functioning are under the strain and stresses as are produced by the conditions and the variations as are brought about from time to time.

13. To bring about nearer normal forces for the body, with the conditions existent, there are as two specific conditions through which the body may bring the relief and the more normal functioning of physical forces in the body.

14. Through the THOROUGH application of MIND over the existent condition, and with the application of that that will assist, both physical and mental, in bringing that condition about, from a physical viewpoint. That is, by this constant entering in, at a specific time, the quietude of self, or into the silence with self, for at least - beginning first for five to ten minutes, increasing this, day by day, a few minutes, until at least THIRTY minutes may be spent in such.

15. In the evening applying those vibrations from the Radio-Active Applicator, as will be found with that which applies both Nitrate of Silver and of Iron in that anode that is attached, negatively, to the umbilicus. This would be alternated - that is, one one day, one the next. The positive, or the first small plate, should be attached to the ankle, first right, then left, right, then left, see? and the anode to the umbilicus, with the Nitrate Silver, should be attached to the RIGHT of umbilicus, and that of the Iron to the LEFT of umbilicus. This should be at least for one hour. After using these (this vibration) for five days, rest TWO. Then beginning over again, for five days, see?

16. Do that. We are through for the present.

Reports

Reports & Follow-up

R1. 4/7/26 Report: ”…Your reading of my case received Saturday. I want to thank you heartily, also Mrs. Cayce and your secretary, for the services which they so assiduously rendered. It is truly marvelous the way your power penetrates and brings out so many truths! Can you recall the vision of the body after the reading is over, just as you saw the spelling lesson afterwards? If so, I would have many questions to ask. A few details would do much to clarify a part of it, which is not quite clear. Yet, a little later, I may be able to see comprehensively. If there is any psychology to aid me, please advise me further. I have read of people going ‘into the silence’ but nothing explanatory - I need to be taught how! Where can I procure lessons in book form on some simple dissertation?

”…I shall write to Mr. Brown of Dayton, Ohio about the radio-active appliance as soon as I get to …, North Carolina. Will it be necessary to give him your directions, about the nitrate of silver and iron, etc.?…”

R2. 4/7/27 [4329]‘s response to survey:

ASSOCIATION OF NATIONAL INVESTIGATORS

(This form to be filled out and returned after reading is received)

NAME [4329]

ADDRESS …

AGE 59 June 1st

SEX Female

MARRIED OR SINGLE Widow

NATIONALITY American

REMARKS

(You will please state in the space below how near, in your opinion, reading fits your condition, as you know it yourself, and if you expect to carry out the suggestions made for the improvement of your health.)

Mr. Cayce’s power is God-given, of that I am sure. From no other source could he penetrate the actual conditions of the human body and bring to light the heretofore unseen. I think my case has been revealed accurately, according to my interpretation and it is my earnest intention to follow to the letter, the advice so generously given. May the Lord forever bless Mr. Cayce’s work!

R3. 4/30/26 EC’s letter:

My dear Mrs. [4329]

Yours of the 7th reached me in due time, and I guess I should be ashamed of just getting this off to you now, but it has been impossible for me to get this sooner, as we have been all dated up for the whole time. I am just hoping and trusting that this will be worth while for Mrs. [4848] and that she is feeling a great deal better. I was afraid to send this on to any other address than her home address.

I want to thank you very much for your letter and for the report that you sent us. I trust that you are feeling a great deal better yourself.

Now, in reply to the questions that you ask me, I do not recall anything that I have seen after the reading. I shall be very glad though to answer any questions that you may desire to ask, to further clarify your reading, if you see fit.

As to the best means I have found for entering into the silence, this I think is simple and easily understood. Each day, at an appointed time, enter into your room alone. Sit in a chair comfortably, both feet firmly on the floor, body perfectly relaxed, and as near as possible do not think of anything! This may be hard to do the first two or three times. If you fall asleep, all the better. Do not try to FORCE yourself, but sit perfectly relaxed, fifteen to twenty minutes is long enough for the first few days.

As for the book, the best thing I believe that I have seen lately is five little volumes by Robert Collier. His address is Scribner Building, 599 Fifth Avenue, New York. They are called “The Book of Life.” These, I am sure, you will thoroughly enjoy, and applying this entering into the silence with these, you will find them wholesome and worth while.

Trusting you will pardon my seeming neglect, though I assure you such is not the case, for I appreciate your interest and I certainly hope to be of service to you and Mrs. [4848] - I am

Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD

R4. 4/30/26 Mrs. [4329]‘s letter crossed his in the mail, wondering why she hadn’t heard from him in answer to her questions.

R5. 5/4/26 EC’s letter:

Mrs. [4329] …, N.C.

My dear Mrs. [4329]

Replying to yours of the 30th, I feel very much ashamed to have to beg your pardon. I wrote you on the 30th to …, Ohio, and sent the reading for your sister at the same time. I didn’t answer your letter at once, for I hoped each day to be able to take the reading and then answer your letter at the same time, but as you know now, it was delayed, on account of previous appointments, and on account of very severe cases that needed immediate attention. I assure you, however, that this will not occur again, for it is my desire to cooperate with everyone that wishes to gain anything through the work I am trying to do, and I assure you I appreciate you a great deal more than my past actions would indicate.

Now, as regards some of the questions you ask me, I do not recall, when I have awakened from the reading, anything that has passed during that time, but I shall be very glad to answer any questions you may desire to ask to further clarify your reading, or any phase of the phenomena that needs clarification to your mind.

I am in hopes, as soon as you get settled, that you will order the Radio-Appliance and begin the use of same. This, however, is not a pad. It is nearer, or is in fact, a form of a battery appliance.

As to the best book, I believe five little volumes, written and published by Robert Collier, 599 Fifth Avenue, New York City, are the best things I have seen for some time, concerning the study and what the inner consciousness is. The book is called “The Book of Life.” Individually, I find this just a little to the extreme. Perhaps this is from my past twenty-five years of experience with the phase of psychic phenomena as has been manifest through me, but I believe you will find these worth while.

As to the best means for entering into the silence, by experience (and I am in hopes you will find this will apply in your case), here is a simple formula and one easily understood. Each day, at an appointed time, enter your room alone. Sit in a comfortable chair, with both feet firmly on the floor, and let the body relax perfectly, and as near as possible, do not think of anything! Just let the Universal Mind take possession of yourself. If possible, fall asleep, but do not attempt to force the issue. Just sit perfectly relaxed, ten to fifteen minutes for the first few days, and longer if you desire or find you gain from same. This kept up, consistently and persistently, I am sure you will gain results. This may be done just as well in the open, or perhaps even better, if one is able to choose a tree that is alone, and where there is not too much passing, and will sit beside this tree for twenty days, just twenty minutes each day, I will guarantee you will gain a message for yourself - the most surprising thing of your whole life!

I feel that the reading will be forwarded you, and will no doubt reach you by the time this letter does. Therefore, I am not sending a copy at present, but should you desire same, please let me know at once.

Now, please pardon me, Mrs. [4329] this time, won’t you? I assure you it won’t happen again.

Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD

R6. 6/2/26 [4329]‘s letter to EC and GC:

Grove Park Inn, Asheville, N.C.

Finest Resort Hotel in the World Absolutely Fireproof Open all the Year

If you ever take a trip to Asheville I hope you will go to see this beautiful hotel without fail. The architecture is a perfect study - the exterior as well as the interior. We [Mrs. [3934] and [4329]] were sorry that we spent so little time there. We were not guests but were tendered this lovely stationery, just the same.

As to my own reading: I certainly thank you for your kindly interest. I feel that you have a very sincere personal interest in your patients! As soon as possible to give myself some attention, I shall make haste to carry out your advice. I am so glad to know about your own personal experience of “going into the Silence.”

I am too much inclined to look upon such things as being SO SERIOUS and DIFFICULT, but I SHALL TRY!

For years I have TRIED the application of “mind over matter,” but perhaps I relied too much on MY WILL. - I found the effort of keeping the mind full enough of various interests and occupations to CROWD OUT worries, had a deleterious effect (after a time) for one wears out - there is a limit of strength - especially where there has been such physical & mental strain as mine, since the tragic ending of my beloved husband’s life ten years ago.

But to go back farther - away from the present - the real cause & beginning of my ill health came from a violent illness when about three years of age, at which time my nervous system was wrecked.

The ear, eyes, & throat trouble which you mentioned has existed ever since, also poor circulation & eliminations, etc.

I have sometimes wondered why my aspirations weren’t impaired, too. Then life would not be such a conflict! A series of attempts and failures seemingly. I can’t remember when I wasn’t keenly sensitive, and being sympathetic, was always ready to bear everybody’s burdens - putting myself in the other person’s place - a habit deleterious to a very sensitive person.

Then too, operations which mutilate the body, arrest and pervert the functioning of organs, tend toward producing various kinds of abnormalities. Many things which you mentioned together with insomnia, fear, apprehension and so on, are all symptoms of depleted nerve vitality. You got my reading at ONE of my worst times - if not the worst. Insufficient sleep for weeks, along with suffering and shock, from a burning auto accident, put me in a state too miserable to describe. At such times - (during loss of sleep) it seems impossible to CONTROL one’s thoughts. The very things we wish NOT to think of - come, but my WILL to NOT HARBOR and indulge in destructive thinking, HELPS, I am sure!! If only the electric battery device, which you advised, helps me to SLEEP, my improvement is assured!

I am under terrific strain here, feel so burdened with responsibility and work which haven’t the strength to do, to the extent that I was ready to weep from fatigue and discouragement, when have but FOUR days after my arrival.

Please pardon me for my long delay in writing you, also for unburdening myself to you, but the wholesome, kindly sincerity, which you radiate, draws and sort of impels me! I have a feeling of perfect confidence that you CAN and WILL help all your patients, even to bear their troubles, and that you have the power to do it without feeling OVERBURDENED YOURSELF.

I thank you heartily for all your kindness & willing cooperation. My one regret is that I am unable to compensate you fairly!

We have just sent one of your booklets to relatives of Mr. […] in Detroit, Mich. You may hear from them. Sister loves your booklet. She reads and rereads it!

With kindest regards to you and Mrs. Cayce

I am Sincerely [4329]

R7. 6/8/26 EC’s letter continued after advice re her family [[4847] and [4848]]:

Yes, you certainly do not want to neglect your own self, but we all felt, from the first paragraph of your letter to Mrs. Cayce and I, how well this was in keeping with the information as was given in your Life Reading - ever are you mindful of others, rather than with any thought of yourself. While we mustn’t have ourselves first and foremost in everything, we must realize that if we don’t think about ourselves occasionally, we won’t be able to do for others, as we would like to.

You know I sometimes think, Mrs. [4329], that the great trouble with so many of us is that we feel God is so far away, and that it is a difficult thing to be in close touch with him. So many of us are inclined to make it difficult and serious, when the truth and fact of it is, He is EVER present, if we will only allow ourselves to become attuned to that at-oneness with Him. I think oftentimes that the radio is a wonderful illustration of God’s power in the world, also of our abilities to gain audience, as it were, with that infinite force. When we look at our radios they are very insignificant, but when we tune them in with a live station, what a wonderful response we gain. Then again, if our fellow man can so arrange the conditions in our physical plane to the point where the voices or the music from the mechanical instrument is wafted to the ears of our fellows far and near, how much more infinitely certain we must be that when we attune ourselves in a simple manner we are able to approach the throne of grace.

Yes, oftentimes we are inclined to use our wills to our own detriment. Rather should we be sure that we are making our will One with Him, and our attitude ever should be “Here am I, Lord, use me!”

Now, I feel sure that when you get started with the treatment for yourself that, as you find this ability to go into the silence, it will increase the vitality and heighten your aspirations to the extent that you know, God being with you, who can be against you? I belive we have had a lovely illustration of this. A few weeks ago I received a letter from a lady in one of the schools in New York State, asking if I could not help her in radiating strength to the principal of the school in which she taught. My suggestions to her were that she rely more and more on the strength to be obtained in the silence, and in real prayer, of which we so often know so little, and the results have been most wonderful indeed, and I’m sure His strength will guide YOU, just as it has this good lady.

The material appliance which you are to obtain in the battery appliance is only to set the functionings of the material body in that attunement to a better vibration throughout the body. This I feel sure this will do for you, as it has so many others, and will help you to gain strength and relieve the strain.

Please let me hear from you whenever you have the opportunity. My wife and I feel that we know you and your sister, and you know that we are always vitally interested in our friends and in all who are doing good. I appreciate your efforts on my part, but it is from the abundance of the heart that the mouth speaketh.

Remember me to Mr. [4847] and Mrs. [4848] and with kindest personal regards from Mrs. Cayce, the young lady who writes our readings for us, and myself, I am

Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD

R8. 7/18/26 Thomas B. Brown’s letter: “Mrs. [4329] put too strong a nitrate solution in her bottle connected with equalizer, and it not only ate up the anode but gave her too strong a vibration. I suggested a 10% solution.”

R9. 8/7/26 [4329]‘s letter:

Mr. & Mrs. Cayce Virginia Beach, Va.

Dear Folks:-

I was disappointed not to hear from you today. A letter from Mr. Brown yesterday advised me to have nitrate of silver and alcohol solution made up to use in the battery. Is that your conscious advice or psychic? If it is the proper way for me to use it, I am wondering why I was not given that advice by Mr. Brown when I FIRST BEGAN using the battery?

I have been suffering three weeks now from the first MISUSE of it! (Saturate solution)

I cannot afford to experiment with the little strength I have. Only those who have had acute nervous prostration know what trying to “fight it off” means.

I am SO disheartened, for I had built up so much hope in your psychic power to give me relief. I still think it would have done so, had it not been for the FIRST BIG DOSE of vibrations which have put me more “out of harmony” than ever!

I am uncertain now as to whether I SHOULD, or should NOT have another reading and resume use of the battery later on, after the bad effects have worn off.

Last Monday night I used the iron solution with the battery, and again I was nauseated, more than ever, until I feared vomiting. My stomach was not sour, but I have been having a spell of stomach and intestinal trouble the last week. Such was not the case, however, when I was nauseated at other times after using it. The other distresses in head and teeth were accentuated, so that I have felt too miserable to try using the battery again last night (Tues) and I have the strong conviction that I should NOT use it - now.

Please let me hear from you soon.

With very best wishes to you all.

Sincerely, Mrs. [4329]

From my symptoms, I feel that I must discontinue use of battery, for how long I cannot say, so it seems hardly worth while to have a reading until I am in better shape to resume its use. This is the way it seems to me.

R10. 8/7/26 EC’s letter:

Mrs. [4329] …, Ohio

My dear Mrs. [4329]

Your of the 29th, also of the 4th, received. I beg your pardon for not having answered sooner, but we have been just kept so very busy for the last few weeks, it has been hard for me to keep up with my correspondence as I should. My work seems to be growing just a little bit heavy for me.

I am certainly sorry indeed to know that you are having some trouble and that possibly you got started wrong with your vibrator. I believe that the best thing to do would be for us to take the case again, just as soon as you feel that you are in shape for this to be done, and let us see what is the trouble, how this caused the trouble, and what is the best thing to do to correct it. Or, possibly it would be really better to take this as soon as we can get it in, so that we may get the condition corrected properly. I don’t quite understand how the error was made, if it was an error, but I am sure this should have been prepared in the weak solution, rather than the saturated solution.

I’m certainly in hopes that Mr. and Mrs. [4329] are continuing to improve and that both will soon be getting along the nicest kind.

I wish you would let me know about this right away, and we’ll see if its possible for us to get this in, for you know we would like to get this correction made if it is possible. I am hoping that Mr. brown will be here in the next week or so and that I’ll have an opportunity to go into the matter with him and see just what was the trouble and how this came about.

I certainly thank you for your letter, and I trust that we can get this straightened out for you very soon, so that you can be getting benefits from the treatment rather than worry and trouble. Please let us hear from you right away concerning this.

Sincerely EC:GD

R11. 8/12/26 [4329]‘s letter:

My Dear Mr. Cayce:-

Your letter advising me to have another reading, received. Perhaps that would be the wiser thing to do since I have so much evidence that the first treatment I had (when saturated solution of nitrate silver was used instead of 10% - or 5% -) was a grave mistake! But if there is any question that it was NOT an error, then I do not feel inclined to have another reading & have the same experience over again, in using the applicator.

I am feeling better, only having an occasional recurrence of the disagreeable symptoms caused by the too strong vibrations.

I have discovered why I was nauseated after using the last treatment - with iron solution - or at least I think or am sure the vibrations were not the cause of it. I think the same cause occurred ONE OTHER time but not EVERY time.

If you still think best for me to have another reading, there will be some questions which I would like for Mrs. Cayce to ask when conducting the reading.

I am truly sorry that you are feeling a bit burdened with your work! I often think that if only our energy would generate unlimited strength, what a lot more some of us would accomplish.

Hoping that you may RECEIVE as bountifully as you give, and that your psychic power may increase instead of diminish, I am with kindest wishes to all

Sincerely, Mrs. [4329]

R12. 8/23/26 [4329]‘s letter:

Mr. Edgar Cayce Virginia Beach, Va.

Dear Mr. Cayce:-

I admit that I was a little disappointed not to have a chance to ask questions, but I argued, that you must have some good reason for hastening the reading - probably your anxiety to have the battery treatments resumed - as you know both Mr. Brown’s concern as well as my own - so I acquiesced very willingly, and am now sorry the reading didn’t go through on the 20th - but I can excuse that, heartily. Tho’ I do dislike to have the battery in my possession so long - on trial. Besides if its the remedy for me, then I must use it HERE giving myself time for improvement before returning to Cleveland to resume my work - which I had hoped to do not later than Oct. 1st. Its use is too inconvenient, when knocking about as I shall be - as a 2 gal. crock half full of ice is required for the battery.

Of course, otherwise, I am glad to ask a few questions, and I thank you for your repeated efforts to make all adjustments satisfactory. Its surely lovely of you! I appreciate it!

Since my disagreeable experience in using the battery, I know you will see WHEN DIAGNOSING WHETHER, it is REALLY the REMEDY for MY case - since I am unlike others - who may be using it with benefit - having been mutilated from illnesses and operations.

I have so much trouble with the Aorta - as I diagnose it. My heart, stomach & bowels throb so after eating breakfast that I am completely exhausted much of the time & I feel unequal to any exertion until almost dinner time - when I begin to feel hungry. This is a most undesirable symptom when I am on a nursing case and must work all the forenoon.

I would be so glad for relief from this. How long does it take for a reading? I find myself under strain, self conscious “up for inspection” feeling - its silly of course so laugh if you wish.

Can one be about their work, or is it best for the body to be in one spot - and partly in repose? Thats mighty hard for me to do, but I’ll try anything you say. Yours is the harder ordeal, so YOU MUST CONSIDER YOURSELF FIRST!

I did not mean that your psychic power was ebbing. I only hope it never does! I have every assurance of your desire to serve suffering humanity, and I thank the Lord, praying that he will always bless you and your family.

I shall keep in mind the date Sept. 4th and time (10 to 12 A.M.) for my reading.

With best wishes to all, Sincerely [4329] …, Ohio

Questions:

Does her THROAT TROUBLE - behind tonsils - above larynx - tend toward tuberculosis?

What is the condition of the Aorta & the remedy?

What is the cause and remedy for the STINGING DISTRESS with soreness in RIGHT and LEFT breast - ALONG THE BREAST BONE?

What is the remedy for the spleen, stomach, liver, kidneys, & intestinal troubles?

Is there any remedy for Arthritis in finger joints and knees?

Is the ache in back WHEN ON FEET MUCH - below waist - rheumatic?

Will the use of battery correct SHORT HOURS of SLEEP and many others troubles? How long must it be used?

State KIND, and STRENGTH of solution to be used with battery, if used at all?

R13. 9/4/26 See 4329-2.

Background

Background

B1. 1/21/26 Mrs. [4329] requested a Physical Reading for her sister [4848], her brother-in-law [4847], a nephew, Mr. [4779], and referred a friend, Mrs. [3934] for readings.

B2. 3/22/26 Letter: ”…Yours of the twelfth, re above mentioned readings gladly received, also the little booklet [See 4905-53, Reports] which I prize very much. Being an unassuming person, I feel somewhat flattered that you should ask for my impression regarding the way in which you have written it. So here is my criticism. The story of your God-given power is perfect! There is absolutely no other way to tell of phenomena which can not be explained, other then the simple, straight-forward, direct way in which you have done it! Being devoid of all ostentation, promises, and self-praise, it carries credulity, sincerity - absolute truth! High sounding, technical terms oft times obscuring the real meaning and surrounding the facts in mystery, do not win and convince like a story simply told, it seems to me. We have many examples of this in Christ’s Life. So let me add that the sweet simplicity of your booklet is refreshing - and should amply satisfy all who read and are receptive to truths, without question.

”…To use a bit of slang - ‘My hat is off to you’ - who have had so many rebuffs and opposition to combat with; (Quoting Elizabeth Towne, Editor of NAUTILUS) - To you, who are really a ‘Sun of God’ radiating cheer. Hope and life to discouraged, disheartened beings all about you! ‘God’s Sun’ through one of His mediums like you, should be allowed to shine in all its glory, bestowing the blessed warmth of love, and earthly blessings wherever its gleams are set! Never, never, my friend, try to hide or subdue it! I need not say that, for your gifts cannot be hidden! Your proselytes will spread the good news, as in the days of old. Although I do not speak from personal experience as yet, I can truthfully say that the mother-heart in me has gone out to the dear little boy, ‘who could not learn his spelling lessons’!

”…Will you please give me a date for my health reading at your earliest convenience, that it may be done before changing address? I feel so hopeless about my own case, that I almost fear there is no help, but I am anxious to know what YOU can do for me. While I may not be able to carry out directions immediately (mostly due to lack of funds), I shall do so as soon as convenient. I may ask for a life reading later, I found Mrs. [3934]‘s so interesting…”

Mentioned Entities

Gertrude Cayce, Vibration, Ohio, Virginia Beach, New York City, Prayer, Throne of God, Dayton Ohio, Electric Vibrator, Florida, Gladys Davis, Grace, Oneness, Physical Body, Trial of Jesus, Visions, Zacharias and Elizabeth

Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 4329-1, ReadingID 12148.