Reading 459-5

TEXT OF READING 459-5 F 34 (Widow, Hebrew)

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Date: 8/8/1931 Sex: F Age: 34 ReadingID: 3345

This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his office, 105th Street & Ocean, Virginia Beach, Va., this 8th day of August, 1931, in accordance with request made by self - Mrs. [459].

[Edgar Cayce; Mildred Davis, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. L. B. Cayce.]

Green Mountain Camp, Time of Reading Lake Hortonia, Hubbarton, 11:30 A. M. Eastern Standard Time. near Brandon, Vermont. (Body & Enquiring mind - Questions regarding mental and material affairs.)

1. EC: Yes, we have the body and those conditions and those circumstances as surround the body in its relation to self, other individuals, and the policies, as well as differences as have arisen.

2. As is seen, the differences have come about, about the policies of handling certain circumstances and conditions, and makes for a VERY aggravating, as well as a DETRIMENTAL condition for the FUTURE of the camp and the associations of the individuals as are INTERESTED in same. That there should have come open break in some association is to be lamented, for this will destroy much of the usefulness in the proper directions of the present undertakings, and unless there can be some amiable approach to the circumstances, to the conditions, and an understanding reached that will at least patch up, or better still CORRECT the circumstances, CORRECT those unkind things that have been said pro and con, it must bring some reflection on all as are concerned in same. That there has been, is taken by the two men individuals interested, from information given MIGHT have been expected, and the warning was given that there SHOULD be an amiable, perfect understanding as to the relations before any undertaking of the kind WAS begun. Linker having sided with the factions that HAVE had their way makes very bad conditions, though the BLAME for same is laid at another’s door. This, as we find, should be handled by those that have charge of the Boys Camp. That the body [459] should have allowed self to be over influenced and not have taken the STAND as it first gave, without so much dissension, is also bad. That the men may reach an understanding, and all abide by same, is the better manner in which this should be handled in the present, as we find. That the body [459] should return to the colony, assisting the teacher, should these conditions, these matters be straightened, OUT WOULD be the better plan, as we find, for in THIS manner may the body better carry on that undertaking as respecting the school later. Otherwise, we will find there will be little differences that will cause wider breaches later on. Ready for questions.

3. (Q) Give details concerning the conditions surrounding the connection with Miss Weill and Mr. Linker, my associate directors at Green Mountain Camp. (A) These have just been gone over! What more would you like to know about ‘em?

4. (Q) What should Mr. Linker do to settle the problem confronting the misunderstanding between Miss Weill and Mrs. [459]? (A) As given, this would be settled with the MEN interested, and the women abiding BY THAT decision!

5. (Q) What caused it? (A) Misunderstanding.

6. (Q) How should I handle Linker and Weill? (A) You shouldn’t handle ‘em! They are men of experience, and while Linker has taken sides and is attempting to be FRIENDLY terms with both - as is seen, this can best be settled among the men BY an amiable understanding. There must be “give and take” on the part of both!

7. (Q) Would you advise Mr. [257], my brother, to interfere? (A) We haven’t [257] - we have these conditions here! He’d better stay out of it!

8. (Q) What is Mr. Waldbaum’s attitude toward me? (A) That of a Christian gentleman!

9. (Q) What is Mr. Linker’s attitude toward me? (A) That is rather indifference, and “like to be out of it.”

10. (Q) Any suggestion to bring about a better summer? (A) How many more suggestions! If they’ll do these, it’ll be a summer’s work!

11. (Q) Should I go back to the Girls Camp? (A) COLONY, as has been given, is the best to go back to, for the best interests of every condition, as circumstances surround same. Heed that as has just been given in questioning this!

12. (Q) When should I go to Colony? (A) When conditions have been made so that there will not be differences again.

13. (Q) If I go, will I get salary? (A) Is it salary that’s being looked for? or rather the GOOD, and the aid as may be given for the building for a future, and sufficient in the present to take care of the needs of same? That should be the first and foremost consideration. As the differences arose over the divisions of same, on account of the slimness, and the circumstances and the policies, is it well to destroy self as well as others’ interests in self, others OPINION of self, by holding for some LITTLE something that is of the earth earthy?

14. (Q) What is the future for the school? (A) That depends upon those who are handling same in the present.

15. (Q) Will the development bring about the home-school as talked of in past reading? (A) That remains to be seen! Depends upon the amiability in which the conditions and circumstances are handled! Waldbaum is well to be associated with, as has been given - the ABILITIES are there!

16. (Q) What will the [N.J.] friends think of the association between Mr. Waldbaum and myself? (A) If the circumstances and the associations are circumspect, and in line with that that is known by each to be perfectly right and in accord with those forces of the Creative elements in human experience, what does it MATTER what they think? Too oft do people consider “what will others think”, and judge and act themselves to be “seen of men”, rather than of God!

17. (Q) What should be done to bring Mr. and Mrs. Waldbaum together? (A) We haven’t Mrs. Waldbaum - but let thy actions in every association, with every individual, be in keeping with those tenets as given from the beginning - think not that thine own righteousness is such as that the good things of LIFE are thine OWN making! Rather is the promise unto His peoples, “If ye will be my people, I will be thy God.” Walk circumspectly before men, all times keeping thine self unspotted from the world, avoiding the appearances of evil. We are through.

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Reports

Reports & Follow-up

R1. 9/7/31 EC’s letter to her mother, Mrs. [325]: “I’m sure [459] has been doing some real work this summer. I’m wondering from the information we had for her sometime ago, just what she has done about things and how she has gotten along. I suppose it is about time that she is coming back from camp, isn’t it? I’ll be anxious and glad to hear from her.”

R2. 9/17/31 Mother [325]‘s letter: “[459] had a very hard summer with the head directress at camp. She had to bring suit against her for what little pay she did get. The Colony would have gone over big. They had 72 children and when the dread disease came out all scattered but 34, just enough to pay expenses, but that was good for a start. Let us hope next summer they will reap a harvest, God willing. She is starting a group for young children, also a kindergarten class. How well she will succeed remains to be seen. She works so very hard and gets so little pay for it, but it is satisfying if one can meet the needs of life.”

R3. 9/26/31 See brother’s rdg. 257-73, Par. 58-A in re stocks, Par. 59-A in re insurance; Par. 60-A—63-A advising that brother [257] should be trustee for [459]‘s stock, that he should encourage her school in N.J. only if she does not broaden out too fast; that she should stick to children nearer the ages of her own children.

R4. 12/9/31 Mother’s letter: “[459] is having a terrible time - she had to send about 50 children home on account of no heat, and the camp has not paid her as yet.”

R5. 1/6/32 Mother’s letter: “I was over to [459]‘s house and helped her to straighten out her home and school affairs, and I have gotten her started nicely but it took a great deal of my strength to do it… [257] gave her some of [4159]‘s insurance money, and so she can go on now.”

R6. 2/17/32 “[459] has more than a hard struggle, and so it goes.”

R7. 4/9/32 “[459] has had one terrible winter but she is brave and never complains. If I could just go over and help her, but my health will not allow me to.”

R8. 4/21/32 Brother [325]‘s ltr.: “[459] is struggling along.”

R9. 8/2/32 She sent in renewal membership, saying: “Just a line to tell you that things are going pretty well so far as camp goes. We have a nice group of children and now I hope to help out on school… I met Dr. Ripers 2 yrs. ago and she wanted to help me establish, so now I am availing myself of the opportunity. She is a charming young person… Dr. Hollingsworth, the head of psychology at Columbia (who taught [4159] of sacred memory) recommended her. She is one of outstanding personality. [See 459-4, Par. 16-A on 5/8/31 advising it would be well to seek her assistance.]… I am still in debt about three thousand, as I had no money to start this project, but I hope to pay this out by next June if school is at all a success. My creditors were wonderful to me. Well, [4159] surely left a wonderful name. The township would do most anything… I’d love to have a camp down there but my clientele are children whose mothers want them around the neighborhood, yet they have so much confidence in me that I believe they would go anywhere with me. I hope I shall always be entrusted with this implicit faith, whether in Virginia Beach or wherever I go with them, but a nearby camp to N.Y. is needed.” [She indicated her desire to have Hugh Lynn Cayce working with her in her school.]

R10. 8/8/32 EC’s letter:

“[459], I sincerely believe there is a wonderful opportunity for the developing of a camp here. I am gradually becoming more closely associated with a man [Jacob Laskin] who has had considerable means, and whose weakness is Virginia Beach. One of his dreams is that there may be a camp here. He has the property, and he wants it given over, too, for that purpose. Possibly it can be worked out, that you would have the camp and school here, that would be in conjunction with your own school there, a little later on - or they might advance from the one school or camp to the other, under your supervision or direction, as things develop for you. Then there might be the greater opportunity for Hugh Lynn to be interested in the developing of the camp or school here. There are so many possibilities in this direction, that they are appalling at times. I’m sure we want to consider seriously all the opportunities that are presented, but do not want to do anything rash. I believe that with the coming back to normalcy, Virginia Beach is really going to enjoy one of the very first booms for advancement, and if it is made a health growth all the better for those who are interested in any property or undertaking around the place.”

R11. 8/16/33 Mother [325]‘s letter: “[459] is working very hard, has a nice group, but she has so much expense it will take her some years to pull out. Well, as she is happy in her work, it is not for me to complain.”

R12. 9/12/33 “[459] just worked for food this summer and a lot of debts. Well, such is life and we must go on and face the real facts, and thank God for good health.”

R13. 11/27/33 See 459-6.

Background

Background

B1. See 459-4 on 5/8/31 in re her becoming associated with a children’s camp in Vermont for the summer.

B2. 7/31/31 She submitted questions, from the camp.

Mentioned Entities

Virginia Beach, Hugh Lynn Cayce, A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment), Dreams, Gladys Davis, Purpose, Resurrection Appearances

Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 459-5, ReadingID 3345.