Reading 611-2

TEXT OF READING 611-2 F ADULT

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Date: 8/17/1934 Sex: F ReadingID: 4219

This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his home on Arctic Crescent, Virginia Beach, Va., this 17th day of August, 1934, in accordance with request made by the self - Mrs. [611], Associate Member of the Ass”n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.

[Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mildred Davis and L. B. Cayce.]

Time of Reading 3:25 to 3:40 P. M. Eastern Standard Time. New York City. (Physical Suggestion)

1. EC: Yes, we have the body here, [611]; this we have had before.

2. Now, as we find, there are changes in the general physical forces of the body from that we have last had here. Many of these show improvements in the general physical condition. While there have been some reactions that have not given the appearance of help or aid, and have caused anxiety on the part of the body and somewhat on the part of the one administering same, these are from too great a strain on the nervous system by the application of the electrical vibrations being of too great a nature.

3. As we find, there needs be, in the OSTEOPATHIC manner, more of a correction in the areas that have been indicated, and a COORDINATING of the whole of the centers from the radial plexus from each portion of the system; as in the brachial, in the lumbar and in the solar plexus. These need be coordinated.

4. We would make the diathermy less strong, and this should be accorded according to the reactions that are arising in the activity to the heart’s action, to the general nerve system; and we will find that these will - in the BALANCING of the conditions - create a much nearer normal activity for this body, [611].

5. Then, we would leave off the diathermy for at least two or three periods. We would THEN begin again with the use of the plates and the amperage at a much lower activity, but to create that action through the system that is necessary; for the purifying of the impulses between the sympathetic and cerebrospinal plexus, that make for the coordination of the activities of the organs in the system, is necessary.

6. Do that.

7. Ready for questions.

8. (Q) How much diathermy in terms of milliamperage should be given the body, and for what length of time per treatment from now on? (A) It has been indicated that this is to be applied according to the reactions in the body. It is to be left off for two or three treatments, you see, and then applied according to the reactions to the body. Whether it’s thirty, forty, ten or five amperage and millimeters, this would be according to the REACTIONS to the body! See?

9. (Q) Please tell specifically the size plates to use and just where to place them? (A) As indicated, according to the REACTIONS to the body! It will be found to be different at different times! We have indicated that there has been too much diathermy, not enough coordination with the adjustments and the massage osteopathically administered. If these changes will be made, and these corrections be made, we find that the body will respond more normally.

10. (Q) Just where should the plates be placed? (A) Read WHAT WE HAVE GIVEN!

11. (Q) How long before the body will definitely notice an improvement from these treatments? (A) How long before the applications will be made positively in the nature to create those things that have been given? If the administrations will be made in such a manner the response will come, when these have had sufficient time for the body to react to the proper adjustments and proper activity of that which has been given. There should be response in the next two to three weeks.

12. (Q) How long before she will entirely recover? (A) How long is it until tomorrow? How long is it until next year? How long is it to the next century? When applications are made! This is not prognosticating as to whether she will think right, or that the applications will be made right! This is giving as to what will happen if they are done right, and if she lives and thinks right! The dependency is upon the will of the individuals respecting themselves and their application to those things that create constructive influences in the body and individual activities of individuals! ONE is dependent upon another! No prognostication may be made!

13. (Q) In making the adjustments, what specific vertebrae are involved? (A) These have been named.

14. (Q) Is there anything else Dr. Coombs can do to help her, other than what he is doing? (A) If these adjustments and treatments will be made in accordance with the needs, the requirements, the conditions that exist with the body, the body-physical and mental will respond to same. That is all that is required of him, or asked of him, or sought by the body. But use the corrections and suggestions as given in a CONSISTENT and in a PERSISTENT way and manner; not as rote to see what would happen but rather as a NECESSARY thing for the correction of disturbances in the body.

15. We are through for the present.

Two copies to Self (one for Dr. Coombs) Copy to Ass’n file

Reports

Reports & Follow-up

R1. 8/20/34 EC’s letter to Dr. Leroy Coombs: “Thank you very much for yours of the 13th… Where the readings give a specific way of treating, as a usual thing it is found best to follow that direction to the letter. However, if a general outline is given for treatment in a certain school, the physician who has been trained in that school should use his own discretion, in keeping with what he has found by examination. Just as the questions you asked: I’m sure the diathermy should be given according to just how the body responds to the treatment; using, of course, your own discretion as to how much. I think you will find in Mrs. [611]‘s first reading the answer to all your questions as to the osteopathic adjustments, even the specific centers needing adjustment. It seems her former osteopathic treatments were given for the upper spine, while the real corrections need to be made in the lower. You will see, however, the full details in that first reading…”

R2. 8/21/34 EC’s letter to Mr. [257]: ”…Of course, we have heard from Mrs. [611]; also from Dr. Coombs. The Check reading has been given, and I have written Dr. Coombs personally. Don’t mess it up, [257]. I believe it can be worked out, but interference or miscomprehension of what it is all about - this is not a sideshow, you know. But I certainly do hope that Mrs. [611] can get results. I believe she can, if we can get this doctor to see the thing right; but if he sees it as a mystery, something in defiance of, or disregarding all science of medicine or osteopathy, why it can’t mean anything. This work is an aid to these sciences, and it must be consistent with good judgment. We don’t ask any doctor to carry out a treatment suggested in a reading unless it is consistent with good judgment and common sense. In fact, we would rather he didn’t! Let’s be normal about it…”

R3. 8/24/34 Dr. Coombs’ letter: ”…My failure to make an examination and diagnosis of Mrs. [611] needs some explanation. When her husband first came to my office, he was very explicit in stating that he wanted only your directions carried out in every detail. He did not wish another examination made, as it had already been done by other specialists and they had all the data. I could not get this, as he did not want them to know that you and I were handling the case. And he did not wish to prolong the time or have the extra expense involved in repeated laboratory work, etc. So you see I was put in a very unusual position regarding the matter. I realize that many doctors would not have accepted the case under these conditions, but I am interested in things spiritual and psychic and I know of the powers that lie beyond our understanding, so I accepted it. This is why I was anxious to receive as much detail as possible regarding the treatment. I am doing my best for her as I understand it…”

R4. 8/28/34 EC’s letter to Dr. Coombs: ”…I know how skeptical Mr. and Mrs. [611] were, and can appreciate his approach to you. He did it, I’m sure, in all earnestness and sincerity, not realizing that he put you at a disadvantage in almost his first statements to you. However, I am hoping that you will be able to arouse in Mrs. [611] that necessary for the bringing about of a correction in her condition. Know that if at any time there are questions you would desire to have asked about her condition, we don’t want you to hesitate to let us know; and we will be more than glad to cooperate with you in any way possible toward bringing about the desired results. As I have said before, I know of no cases that have not responded and received the results promised where the suggested treatments have been followed as given. But from time to time it may be necessary for changes. So, should you find that she is not responding as you think she should, don’t hesitate to let me know…”

R5. 8/30/34 Mrs. [611]‘s letter: ”…Your very kind letter was received several days ago and came at a moment when I needed a word of encouragement. It seems no matter how much hope and faith one has, there are times when things look ‘black.’

“With the help of my doctor, who is deeply interested in my case, especially because of the unusual circumstances surrounding the treatment of same, I am trying hard to get well by following your suggestions.

“The Check reading was most satisfactory and in time it may be necessary to have another one.

“I shall be very glad indeed, to keep you informed of any progress I may make, and assure you a line from you will always be appreciated.

“Mr. […] joins me in sending very kindest regards to you and Mrs. Cayce, and hope you are enjoying the best of health…”

R6. 9/7/34 EC’s letter to Mrs. [611]: “I was very glad to have yours of the 30th, and to know that the Check reading was satisfactory. I’m sure you will find Dr. Coombs quite an efficient and worthwhile man. I gather this from the letter I’ve had from him, and I hope you will not become easily discouraged. You know it is going to require a little time, but if you don’t get along just as well as you should, be sure and let us know; for, as I have told you before, I know of no cases that have not gotten the results promised when the suggestions made have been followed.

“Some months ago we gave a reading for an elderly man [Mr. [576]] in Dayton, Ohio, whom the doctors said was about ‘through,’ and he felt so himself. Well, for several weeks he had a time trying to get a doctor to follow the reading, or to give him the method of treatment prescribed. We finally wrote to the doctor in New York who is pushing that method of treatment, but inasmuch as our patient did not have money enough to come to New York for treatment, he dropped the case and would not bother to recommend anyone in Dayton. However, through some friends of ours in Dayton he finally located a man there who gave that mode of treatment. Also it was necessary for him to secure the services of a physician of another school. But he made the arrangements, after so long a time, and a few days ago he wrote me that he was ready to go back to work - he feels so very well and says he is getting along fine. The doctors marvel at the change that has come about. And I’m sure such a change can come to you. I know you have had everything to discourage you, and you feel like at times there isn’t any use - but God is still in His heavens and His promises are the only things that are worthwhile; and the beauty of it is, He takes us where we are!

“So, you hold on tight; be very persistent and consistent, and the first thing you know, you will see a whole lot of change, and you’ll be just coming along fine…”

R7. 9/8/34 Dr. Coombs’ letter to EC: “Your letter arrived just as Mr. […] was leaving. He came to inform me that his wife [611] would not continue treatment; at least at present. The family doctor, hearing that she had been to you and taking treatment here, frightened and badly startled her. He informed her that scar tissue was found on the spinal cord and a narrowing in one area through diseased or destroyed nerve tissue; that she would never get any better (though probably not any worse); and that my treatment might at some time give some added injury. Of course, he made a very grave error in telling her, in not telling her husband originally, and in frightening her regarding my treatment. Mr. […] said the doctor had killed what spirit she had; and both Mr. and Mrs. [611] seemed very kind in their attitude toward ourselves. It is too bad, as both Mr. […] and I felt she had shown a very slight improvement during the month’s treatment. We all realized it would be very slow…”

R8. 10/21/34 Mr. [257]‘s letter: ”…We have quite a number who want to meet you, among them Mrs. [611] who wants to begin again the treatments…”

Background

Background

B1. See 611-1 on 7/20/34 and subsequent Reports.

B2. 8/13/34 Dr. LeRoy Coombs submitted questions.

B3. 8/15/34 Mrs. [611] submitted questions.

Mentioned Entities

Osteopathy, Dayton Ohio, New York City, Gertrude Cayce, Free Will, Gladys Davis, Massage Therapy, Ohio, Physical Body, Vibration, Virginia Beach

Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 611-2, ReadingID 4219.