TEXT OF READING 165-25 M 60 (Engr., Mfgr., Educator,
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Date: 8/26/1937 Sex: M Age: 60 ReadingID: 667
Protestant) This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his home on Arctic Crescent, Virginia Beach, Va., this 26th day of August, 1937, in accordance with request made by the self - Mr. [165], Active Member of the Ass”n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.
[Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Hugh Lynn Cayce.]
Time of Reading 3:45 to 4:00 P. M. Eastern Standard Time. New York City.
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GC: You will have before you [165] who is at the … Hotel, …, New York City, Room …, and the information received through this channel on May 29, June 17th and June 28th, 1937, relative to plans for school for boys. You will answer the questions he has prepared on the subject, as I ask them.
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EC: Yes, we have the enquiring mind, [165]; this we have had before. Also the information that has been given regarding the activities necessary for the launching and carrying on of boys’ school - definite purposes.
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As we find, in the present, there is little or no condemnation of the activities thus far. There may have been (which will be determined by the general outcome, owing to purposes) some bad decisions made relative to individual association or activity.
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Conditions of the moment do not always need to supersede that which would be eventually in keeping with the purposes and aims of an active body in relation to constructive forces.
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These are not myths nor merely sayings, but if analyzed in the mind of the body will be better understood.
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We would, through channels as may be opened for the body in some not AS political circles but THROUGH political circles, continue to interest - or try and interest - Seabury, and through the channel as would be opened we would find we would have closer access to the DuPont interests that would (through the natural associations that may be brought about, though it may take time - so work at it!) bring same to the attention of those in power politically at present, who are interested in ventures or activities of this particular nature.
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As for the present choice of the site, or opening of same: [On Mrs. [1438]‘s estate.]
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As we find, if there is the proper consideration - and this means some very diplomatic undertakings on the part of [165], but - if there is the assistance of [1430] taken as an assistant organizer, these may lead to the better channels for the present.
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Also the assistance of [1437] in not only interesting others but assisting in a portion of the activities for the furtherance of the necessary funds - as through [1430] and the necessary funds for activity in the present.
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These as we find offer the better channels in the present.
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Do not so act or so jeopardize, by the activities in the present, the interests that may be included in the O’Reilly or Reilly site - but the others offer in the present, for the opening, the better opportunity; but diplomatically (You are somewhat of a diplomat!) handle the situations with these. [Harold J. Reilly, Sun Air Farm, Oak Ridge, N.J.]
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Ready for questions.
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(Q) Wherein has entity failed to prepare himself to meet the conditions that will make for success in this undertaking? (A) As has been indicated, we do not find a failure. No condemnation. Merely because the time appears short, finances appear shorter, these make for a “jittery” feeling; and emergencies have been such as to allow the entity to become overanxious and make concessions in some instances not so well - but continue along the lines indicated.
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(Q) What added efforts should be put forth to contact aid through Judge Seabury and through him the DuPonts? (A) Just as has been indicated, there are now - as has been given - two channels; some seem hopeless, yes - but arouse that interest in the ways as has been indicated.
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(Q) Through whom in political circles should I attempt contacts? (A) Seek those through whom there are close, or have been close, associations. There would be some seeking, some activities in these, and these will bring not only on added zest and interest in the attempts but open doors and ways and channels that will be helpful in the interim as well as in the long run.
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(Q) How has the entity fallen down in his methods of contacting boys and parents? (A) We do not find fault, as has been given, but overanxiety rather. It is working! Keep AT IT! But open the way for more!
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(Q) How best can the next three weeks be made to produce the needed financial backing and pupil registrations? (A) As has been indicated.
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(Q) Will Mr. [1437] be able to persuade his friends to finance boys in the school? (A) As we find to an extent, yes. Some disappointments, to be sure, but in a way yes; sufficient as we find to make at least a start.
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(Q) Will we be able to finance the employment of Prof. [317] by the school this year? (A) We do not find this as the most plausible. There are those interests that have been promised, and the activities of [317] are such that it is not well under the existent circumstances for this present period. But none better may be had for a working out of that being attempted - next season.
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(Q) What are the relative merits of the [[1438] estate] and Land O’Reilly [H. J. Reilly’s Sun Air Farm, Oak Ridge, N.J.] as location for the school? (A) As has been indicated.
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(Q) Does the statement that Beauty Parlor Equipment had best be let alone include the Hand Treating Machine now brought to a completion? (A) This is very well to be used, provided it does not so divide the interests as to jeopardize the best interests of the undertakings.
It seems wise that this should be considered in the present. Do not let these interest jeopardize those of the school and its activity.
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(Q) How can entity assist in solving the problems at [1438]‘s estate, if at all? (A) These have been pointed out in those things necessary for the interesting of those that are responsible for the activities there - through [1430]. [See 1430-1, Par. 48-A, 8/25/37.]
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(Q) Please advise me regarding the interview I had with [900] regarding East Coast Trading Stock and his offer to pay me
30 for the stock for which I paid him3,000. [See 900-446 on 7/13/29.] (A) Little or nothing can be done under the existent circumstances. Either accept or reject. We do not find a great deal more than that offered. [See 165-9, Par. 3-A on 7/27/29.] -
(Q) Any further advice regarding the school? (A) Keep AT IT!
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We are through for the present.
Copy to Self ” ” Ass’n file
Reports
Reports & Follow-up
R1. 8/26/37 Mr. [165]‘s letter to father of prospective student reported on EC’s Life Rdg. for young [1426-1], saying: “It is our hope that every one of the dozen or so boys who are to get their education with us this coming year roaming over the several hundred acres which we have, and studying when and what necessary, and building important things with their hands, and contacting day by day men who know boys and their needs, - that every one of them have as soon as school starts, one of Edgar Cayce’s Life analyses. In them our school will have an asset not yet reached by any of the others as far as we know, and the basic knowledge will enable us to map out individual programs fitted to each boy.” [GD’s note: In this same letter Mr. [165] indicated that Hugh Lynn Cayce (B.A. Psychology) was on the school’s Faculty and Advisory Board.]
R2. 9/12/37 See 317-4 report indicating Prof. [317] is working on “boy and money getting end of Mr. [165]‘s school.” [GD’s note: The school was called [1437] Hall.”]
R3. 11/1/37 He reported:
Readings re [1437] Hall
MAY 29, 1937 - [165-22]:
Set ideal within self. Courage, to carry on in what is of the better or the divine within. Become equipped. BEGIN. Prayerful, meditative. By word of mouth, advertising, contacting those who know the needs. Surround self with those qualified. MORE than the entity & couple of helpers could handle.
Interest those affiliated with Reilly, esp. theater, cinema. (Riley, Powers, Nilssen, Goetz,) Make the better peace within self. [Harold J. Reilly - Harry M. Goetz.]
JUNE 17, 1937 - [165-23]:
Boys 13 to 18. Backward boys and afflicted or in many such conditions. Gain support of this thinking along these lines. (Boy Consv. Bureau, Children’s Village, Scouts, Big Bros. Y.M.C.A., Hebrew Y, 6th Police Comm., Juv. Judges, Children’s Bureaus, Columbia Publishers, Bureau Priv Schools, Prin. High Schools,) Seagrave - Seabury. DuPont. President. Readings a part of Prog for Vocational Guidance, as well as aid for the backward and defective. Location MERNER or Reilly. Work in either place. Industries. (Ref. Cases for poor, hand machine, mech toys, Chef, Weaving, Furn Dec., Aquaculture, Map Making, Rebuilding Construction., Fireplace fuel, Pt Vsh Lacq,) SET THIS UP and it will pay expenses and more. Go direct to institutions first, then individuals, Seabury, DuPont, Pres. back to [165].
JUNE 28, 1937 - [165-24]:
COMMENCE. Basis on spiritual law. Humbleness, Courage. Among those who are faulty are geniuses in some fields, Hence the stress on VOCATIONAL GUIDANCE. Then Seabury, DuPont, Pres. back to [165]. From within-in communion with the God- force. Do FIRST things FIRST. First is Self. Willingness to give & Suffer for an ideal. Courage - the dare to do the impossible. Direct approach to Seabury.
AUGUST 26, 1937 - [165-25]:
There have been some bad decisions but no condemnation of activities KEEP AT IT. Not the most plausible but [317] be with school first year. None better for next season. KEEP AT IT.
11/1/37:
Status Nov. 1. School operating. One student paying
50 month. Advice with one exception followed - Prof. [317] is on the [[Book of Job|job]]. His own decision in the matter, he was out of a [[Book of Job|job]]. One boy from Boston proved to be a periodic maniac, writer has a broken rib and loose teeth from this. Sent boy home. We have many boys we can get but none who can finance themselves. We are now campaigning in many places for funds for scholarships. Have written Members of Ass'n and talked with several hoping one boy could be financed, only Mr. Goetz subscribed (100) and his not payable unless $500 more subscribed. We can meet expenses with 3 boys more. Without them we are doomed to end the school at Christmas time.We are advertising in Times and Newark News. Are visiting officials of New Jersey cities, contacting wealthy men for funds, prosecuting work on Beauty Parlor Machine to help finance, subscribing on student service from Nat’l Bureau., promised overflow students from Columbia (none yet), trying to get local day students, offering pay night courses in Spanish for residents to interest them & help finance. Will approach Seabury again after election. If Clees wins in N.J. it will help.
11/1/37 He submitted various sample fliers on school:
PROBLEM BOYS are the rule an not the exception. A Problem Boy is one who is an individualist and who fails to conform in one way or another to the mass methods of education in common use.
Actually it is not the boy in most cases who is the problem. It is the educational processes in common use. There are no problem boys and there is no problem education where the latter is made to conform to the needs of the former.
More than that - it has been found that 70% of the so-called Problem Boys are so because of bad home conditions rather than due to irregularities within themselves.
Here is a list of types of So-Called Problem Boys:
Those who do not respect property ownership. Those who are snobbish. Having a false sense of superiority. Those who are diffident, hiding themselves away. Those who disregard authority. Those who, needing it, have been denied hand work. Those with minds dwelling on abnormalities. Those dwelling on wild ideas of government and society. Boys having poverty complexes. Boys who have been too much catered-to. Boys who need partnership in their homes. Boys off balance physically. Tedious boys. Swift boys. Geniuses. Lazy-bones. Victims of habit-alcohol, sex, dime novels, etc.
Those are not problems if taken in time and by the right methods. They are routine actors on our stage. Each one requires drill and applause, his proper cue and proper attitude on the part of his fellow actors. Cast him in his proper part, do a little publicity work, and the box office will show a profit.
Develop a pleasing personality, strong and well directioned. Give him the training that will enable him to form accurate and rapid judgements from available information. Get him to demand life to be lived in the presence of preferable knowledge and preferable things. Give him love for work to be carried through to completion in those cases where the task is an essential one. Let him safeguard his body that it be an instrument of sanity and strength. Give him love for his fellow men and his creator. Give him knowledge of strength through contemplation.
Then there will be no problems of any sort.
Vocation School of [1437] Hall recognizes all this and its program is based on its needs and each boy of each class is being led into its way of success.
11/1/37 He submitted various sample fliers on school:
HOW TO LIVE IN OUR BODIES There was a man who unconsciously accepted aching feet as a necessity and was amazed to learn this handicap of pain and nerve-tension, while affecting 90% of the adults of the world, was not shared by the other ten percent. More than that he was amazed to find out that such a handicap was unnecessary in his case and in most cases. He found the answer in listening to one of our camp-fire talks on Feet. A little instruction enabled him to know the facts. His entire life was revolutionized. His remarks were enlightening when he visited the school again: “It took only an hour - and to think I studied latin for six years”.
We have only one body. Let’s make the most of it that it be a willing and cheerful servant of our minds and spirits. One item at a time is forcibly brought home to each boy. From feet to hair on his head, he is taught to know the rules of health and the reasons for them. And he comes to know the sheer joy that only come from perfect and continued health.
He gets to be in demand because of clean hands, glossy hair, shining skin, legs that bear him swiftly, eyes that are glowing with the health of body and mind. The self-consciousness that comes from having to hide hands, to apologise for blotches and blemishes, is all done away with. Honest pride in mind, body and spirit becomes the ladder for mounting to a high place among men.
We have 365 lessons in the habits of living, physical and mental. One for each day. Each is simple and easy. Each becomes of great interest as the results of mastery become evident. When a boy has buttoned his belt around the 365 he has mastered the secret of life itself. He becomes a man among men, when they become an instinctive part of his daily living.
Our [1437] Hall “Calendar for Fathers and Sons” is a daily guide into the mysteries of little things that make up a great life and living. And in its daily use is the mystery that binds together fathers and sons in complete understanding.
11/1/37 He submitted various sample fliers on school:
“Training is INTENSIVE and contacts are INDIVIDUAL at Vocation School of [1437] Hall.
“At Vocation School of [1437] Hall the statement that our “training is intensive and our contacts individual” is not merely repeating a well learned phrase.
“There are actually more adults in proportion to boys than in any other school as far as we know. We believe in the old advice to a boy seeking education: ‘Seek out a mature friend who is living a successful life, and beguile him into taking over your training as a doctor would take over a patient. Man to man, brain to brain, heart to heart, become grounded in the things that make his life a success.’ Our teachers are successful men, and they become mentors to the boys in just that way. They can do this because they have time to do it and then because it is a great urge in their lives.
“By reason of the procedure here indicated, we are able to determine in a practical way as well as theoretically by psycho-analytical methods what field in life the individual boy should dwell in. And we are able to train him to dwell there in a state of growth, and success and happiness. We insist that the success shall be financial as well as social, political and religious.
“The ‘intensive training and individual contacts’ in our school mean NO percentage of failures. If one boy lags behind another, he does not even realize it. He goes on about the even tenor of his somewhat slower way. He finishes that particular project a little later, but never fails in it. And it is sometimes the last one to finish who goes the farthest.
“Mass education as commonly practiced cannot do justice either by the faster boy or the slower. In one case interest cannot be maintained and in the other failure is assured form the beginning. In neither case can originality and spontaneity and sane imaginative faculties be developed. At [1437] Hall the development of a logical and active imagginative faculty is bound to result and in every case.
11/1/37 He submitted various sample fliers on school:
A day at [1437] Hall.
[1437] Hall is a small school. It can never be large. When more students want to be with us a new unit must be formed.
The group making up the student body must be a mixed one. One of means, one without, one strong physically, one with a bruise. The mingling is a leaven of worth.
After water in abundance has made faces shining and bodies glowing, we stand and sing our song of thankfulness for the blessings given by a kind of creator.
The breakfast prepared by our budding chefs very tasty, but conforming to the laws of chemistry and health, is properly eaten. A happy conversation is the accompanying appetizer.
The lessons of the morning are given as best for each boy. The present idea seems to be that the underlying subjects come first. For example the chemistry of cooking preceeds the actual demonstrations. The draughtsmanship in the newly designed ice-box comes ahead of the actual construction.
So goes the day until play time. Ping Pong is year-round joy and skill. We make the table, the bats and - yes - the balls. In warm weather are tennis and swimming. In cold are skating and skiing and ice-boating. The proper form and the needed sportmanship are equally studied.
Meals-games discussion-reading-writing-and finally campfire. There is the keynote of the day and the getting together and the straightening out of all matters.
Then good night and honest sleep.
R4. 11/7/37 He submitted the following flier on school:
Vocation School - Nov. 7, 1937
“How fare American Youth?” is the subject of the report of the American Council on Education. It is based on complete findings in 15 states of survey and censuses. It says:
“A major problem in the welfare of our youth is in the broad gap between school and the first job. We invest large sums in fitting youth for life and then when the job is judged to be tolerably complete we release them to shift for them- selves. The results are that a large number becomes shiftless. When they get jobs the wages of youth are too small, and the proportion of youth that works for no pay at all is suprisedly large. These things result in dissatisfaction. Normal family life is delayed with attending bad results. One good method of cure would be to raise the compulsory age limit for attendance on school. Add to that better vocational courses.”
The above report was prepared under the guidance of such men as Newton D. Baker and Owen D. Young of the American Youth Commission.
The Program of the Vocation School of [1437] Hall answers the above completely. It offers a program that if followed will within the confines of its own student group avoid those unpleasant and dangerous situations.
How does it do this?
By first finding out by every known means of analysis the tendencies of the individual student. Then adding to that method of trying each endeavor that shows promise of fitting the individual. Finally by training the student in that which proves best fit him, and train him so that he becomes commercially productive before he leaves school. The fact of his leaving school is sure proof that he is earning money in a vocation that is to his taste and which he can excel to the greatest possible extent. The concomitants of Interest, an Personality are made to march along with the chosen vocation. Health is understood and practiced - health of mind, spirit and body. A definite practice training of satisfactory human relations completes the picture.
R5. 11/8/37 Mr. [165] was present for Rdg. 165-26 on the school.
Background
Background
B1. 6/28/37 He obtained Rdg. 165-24 giving further advice on establishing boys’ school.
B2. 8/23/37 He submitted further questions.
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Index (LLM-extracted)
Summary
Edgar Cayce advises [165] on establishing a boys’ school, encouraging persistence, diplomatic contacts, and caution regarding financial and personal decisions.
People: Seabury, DuPont, Mr. [1437], Mr. [1430], Prof. [317], Mr. [900], Harold J. Reilly, Harry M. Goetz, Hugh Lynn Cayce
Places: New York City, Virginia Beach, Oak Ridge, N.J., Boston
Concepts: spiritual law, vocational guidance, constructive forces, diplomacy, overanxiety, individualized education
Referenced readings: 165-22, 165-23, 165-24, 165-26, 1430-1, 900-446, 165-9, 317-4, 1426-1
Mentioned Entities
Book of Job, Entity (Cayce Term), Ideal, Purpose, Hugh Lynn Cayce, Initiation, New York City, ESP, Free Will, Gertrude Cayce, Gladys Davis, Last Supper, Photography (Atlantean), Virginia Beach
Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 165-25, ReadingID 667.