TEXT OF READING 2524-4 M 42 (Engineer, Christian Scientist)
Text
Date: 9/10/1942 Sex: M Age: 42 ReadingID: 9489
This Psychic Reading given by Edgar Cayce at the office of the Association, Arctic Crescent, Virginia Beach, Va., this 10th day of September, 1942, in accordance with request made by the self - Mr. [2524], Associate Member of the Ass”n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.
[Edgar Cayce; Hugh Lynn Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno.]
Time of Reading 10:30 to 10:50 A. M. Eastern War Time. New York City.
-
HLC: You will have before you the entity [2524], born February 22, 1900 in Freudenstadt, Germany, who received a Life Reading through this channel on July 2, 1941. By paralleling the information given for his brother [2564] on July 10, 1941, it seems apparent that these entities were associated in the early American period as Hal Gradenstorff and Otto Hermeker and in an earlier period in Egypt at the time of the priest Ra-Ta (approximately 10,500 B.C.). It also seems possible that they may have met in a Roman incarnation. [2524] seeks at this time a full explanation of his past relationships with this brother which have a bearing on his present relationship and desires guidance in working out this relationship in the present for the best mental and spiritual development of all concerned. You will give a full description of these past relationships, the urges from them in the present, and guidance for the thought and action now. You will answer questions that may be asked:
-
EC: Yes, we have the records here of that entity [2524]; also the information indicated in the experience of [2564].
-
In interpreting the activity of each in the experience before this, - we find that each was in those activities as related to a purpose, an ideal; not only as of an individual nature but national in its scope.
-
In the one (now known as [2524]), - we find there were those activities as for freedom, as for that as would bring about better relationships, allowing for each individual to manifest his relationships as to the worship of God, as to the relationships one to another as free men; with a single purpose, but with the ability to work collectively in an idea.
-
The other (now known as [2564]) was rather in the reverse position, manifesting such activities as to bring the bodily afflictions such as to intimidate, as to cause fear. These were of such a nature as to bring in the present experience of self the conditions that are antagonistic to the normal physical abilities.
-
These different attitudes that arise are as the basis of the disturbances that are the experience of each in the present.
-
Then, the advice for [2524]:
-
Hold fast to that ideal. And in thy dealings with thy brother, meet rather that as would be if conditions were reversed; being patient, being understanding; not as preachments but rather as following of precepts and living the ideal that is manifest in the word of the entity.
-
And let thy prayer ever be, in this direction:
-
FATHER, GOD! SPEAK THOU TO ME IN WORD THAT I MAY UNDERSTAND. BUT LET ME, O GOD, SPEAK EVER TO MY BROTHER IN DEEDS, RATHER THAN WORDS.
-
These (words), in the state of each, only cause disputations. Yet these conditions may be met, if there is the manifesting of patience and brotherly love.
-
As also indicated in the paralleling of the activities of each, we find in those material sojourns in the Roman and the Palestine experience there were orders from one [2564] to the other [2524]. These (the orders) were not always in keeping with the idea or ideal of the other. Yet, because of those in greater authority, these were kept WORKABLE experiences; though rarely were there the close or personal associations one with another in the experience.
-
Again a lesson may be taken from same in the present, - as conditions may be said to be in reverse, as to the one in authority. Then, as ye would that others should do to you, do ye even so in all circumstances that arise in thy personal as well as in thy brotherly relationships one to another.
-
Also in the Egyptian land we find there were the activities in which each had an ideal as presented by those who were in political as well as spiritual authority. And these may be the manners in which they each may meet same in the present, if they will but take thought. While taking thought alone will not change the nature, we find that letting the guiding force be that ideal, that spiritual import represented in that counsel, that commandment of Him who IS the ideal, there may be brought to each of thee a closer union in thy undertakings daily. Thus those things that do appear as hindrances, the very nature of same may be turned into such ways and manners that each may be a helpful force to the other.
-
The ideal manner is that each take thought, knowing the ideal that has been the expression for each. But let those activities and purposes of each who seeks the way be ever as those of his of old, - others may do as they say, but as for me, I will literally, I will mentally and spiritually, serve a living God; manifesting same in the manner in which I treat my fellow man.
-
Ready for questions.
-
(Q) What was the nature of the personal relationship in the early American period? (A) They were then at odds one with the other, - not a personal relationship, as given. This was rather that of one serving an ideal of fear, the other an ideal of peace.
-
(Q) What was the nature of the work of each in the Egyptian period? (A) As indicated, - one was in the closer relationships with the King and the Priest; the other was in organizing the activities of individuals who had been given authority - or who had been given the direction for their chosen vocational activity.
-
We are through for the present.
Copy to Self ” ” Ass’n file
Reports
Reports & Follow-up
R1. 9/14/42 HLC’s letter to Mr. [2524]
Mr. [2524] New York, N.Y.
Dear Mr. [2524]
The reading which you secured just recently interested me very much. I have gone back over your file, attempting to understand more clearly the problems regarding which you have sought assistance.
Apparently the relationship with your brother arises from parallel mental and spiritual development rather than from any close personal association in the past. Your brother’s reading shows past incarnations in which he brought considerable suffering to many people. In the present life this brings many hardships and many questions.
In the same periods you were holding to principles which were just opposite in theory and practice. You have an opportunity to help him understand the mental and spiritual laws which are being faced in your present experience.
I hope you will write me about any questions raised by your readings. It would be better if it were possible to spend several hours with you going over all of them. We are anxious to help you make these readings as helpful as possible.
Our recent notice to you regarding my father’s book was returned to us. Enclosed is the descriptive leaflet. We will hold a couple of copies for you until hearing from you.
Sincerely yours, [HLC]
R2. 11/30/43 Mr. [2524]‘s letter to EC:
Dear Dr. Cayce,
Would you please give me a check reading of my physical condition and suggestions to improve it.
There is also another problem. I am not too happy partly because of somewhat unsettled home conditions and primarily because of the lack of reasonable satisfying activities, especially professionally as an engineer. In my relationship with my present employer it seems very difficult to have my ideas executed and I feel I could accomplish ten times as much in a proper setting. I think it is largely due to professional jealousy of a co-employee - I am not sure, I may be at fault too. Could you throw some light on this situation? In planning ahead should I remain in my present home or would a change some time next year be desirable? I am enclosing a check to the Association - If there should be an error in the amount, will you please notify me.
Thank you very much.
Sincerely [2524]
R3. 1/44 Mr. [2524]‘s letter to EC:
Dear Mr. Cayce,
Thank you for your letter of Dec. 6th notifying me about the date of the reading as being Jan 13th. There are several questions I have been wondering about -
- Is my brother [2564] happy?
- Can I do something to contribute to his happiness?
- What should I do to overcome a sense of confusion and unrest?
- Should I continue to work with the company I am now associated with or should I set up my own separate organization?
- Would […] and I be suitable life companions?
- Was […] associated with myself in a past life?
- Where can I find any records of any previous incarnation?
- What is the state of my health and what measures should I take to improve it?
On Wednesday afternoon, Jan 13th 3:30 to 4:30 pm I expect to be at home - …, New York City.
Any light on any of those questions would be of great help -
Thanking you very much, I am
Sincerely [2524]
R4. 1/13/44 See 2524-5, a Mental-Spiritual reading, especially Par. 20-A regarding his brother [2564] “who passed from the earth life about eighteen months ago - is it indicated that he is happy?”
Background
Background
B1. See 2524-1 and 2524-3.
Generated research index
Index (LLM-extracted)
Summary
A reading for a man seeking guidance on his karmic relationship with his brother, exploring past-life connections in early America, Egypt, Rome, and Palestine, and advising patience, understanding, and living one’s ideal.
People: Hal Gradenstorff, Otto Hermeker, Ra Ta
Places: Freudenstadt, Germany, Egypt, Rome, Palestine, New York City
Concepts: past-life in Egypt, past-life in early America, past-life in Rome, past-life in Palestine, Karma, brotherly love, Ideal, spiritual purpose
Referenced readings: 2524-1, 2524-3, 2524-5, 2564
Mentioned Entities
Ideal, Egypt, Incarnation, Entity (Cayce Term), New York City, Purpose, Ra Ta, A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment), Reincarnation, Rome, Germany, Gladys Davis, Hugh Lynn Cayce, Palestine, Prayer, Records (Atlantean), Virginia Beach
Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 2524-4, ReadingID 9489.