TEXT OF READING 254-59
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Date: 11/11/1931 Sex: M ReadingID: 1197
This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at the Hotel Victoria, New York City, this 11th day of November, 1931.
[Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. W. B. Cravis, Samuel Levy, etc.]
Time of Reading 6:00 P. M. (Suggestion given for advice regarding the arrest of Edgar Cayce, Gertrude Cayce, & Gladys Davis for fortune telling, following [3871]‘s reading on November 7, 1931.)
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EC: Yes, we have the bodies, the enquiring minds, etc., present in this room, and those conditions as confront the bodies under the present circumstances. In the situations as exist, those whom are being affected by those accusations as have been made should take that to their own hearts and measure as to their standard of ideal, as whether these are being kept in line with that they DO and have professed in their spoken word. In the conditions, as we find, these conditions exist: There has been set in motion that that could bring these accusations to naught. These SHOULD be presented, however, in a manner as would show there are no entanglements of any nature necessary for the proving of an absolute false accusation made. Not only in the condition surrounding those that sought to bring accusations, but those who through their faith in the divine - as may be manifest in the material world - may seek through a legal channel made manifest in a material manner in the organization as perfected for the carrying on of such investigations, and gathering from such experiences that which may be beneficial to those who seek to know the manifestations of spiritual truths in the world. On this basis, then, should the activities be placed, so that those that have been set in motion are as free in their own conscience as those who seek for THEIR aid in the present circumstance. Ready for questions.
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(Q) Is this case being handled properly? (A) Correctly handled. Unless there is some unseen force as not yet apparent or set, it will be only a question of PRESENTING the facts.
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(Q) Is this case now in the proper hands? (A) In the proper hands, and there may be much given as to WHY this is [in] the present hands.
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(Q) Who shall present the facts? (A) That one PRESENTING the case.
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(Q) Hammerling? (A) Hammerling.
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(Q) Has anything been omitted which should be done? (A) Gather all the ends together, as has been outlined, for PRESENTING the case, that it - the ones that are being accused are employees of the group studying this phenomena for the benefit of mankind, in counselling and giving aid in counseling with individuals.
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(Q) Shall the accused take the stand? (A) When the facts are presented, as WE find, this will NOT be necessary. Should this be necessary, then will be necessary for character witnesses also. Without these, this would not be necessary - and none will be necessary, unless there are other conditions presented.
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(Q) Is there anyone who could be appealed to, or could help us, other than those already called upon? (A) Many would be willing, but TOO MANY potters spoil that as is builded, often.
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(Q) If this case is not dismissed - (A) (Interrupting) Let’s don’t consider in that direction! but should this NOT be dismissed, by there being brought accusations that it must be made a pattern of, on account of the notoriety given, and the powers that be as set such in motion, then appeal to the highest court IMMEDIATELY! and present on the merits of the conditions existent.
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(Q) What should be done regarding the publicity? (A) In this respect would depend much upon that as is NECESSARY to be brought to bear to BRING the proper decision. Then, in the case - on the MERITS of the conditions - the whole should be presented in as far as the press [is concerned]; but rather that an article as would be in a current legitimate magazine PRESENT the facts.
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(Q) If asked what our work is, what shall we say? not to be against the law? (A) Psychic Research.
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(Q) Are there any directions or instructions we should have other than those asked for? (A) Let all pray in earnestness, that that as He would have come about. Let HIM direct. We are through.
Reports
Reports & Follow-up
R1. 11/16/31 STENOGRAPHER’S MINUTES:
City Magistrates’ Court of the City of New York 7th District, Borough of MANHATTAN
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, on the complaint of […] VS. EDGAR CAYCE GERTRUDE CAYCE GLADYS DAVIS
BEFORE Hon. Francis J. Erwin, City Magistrate November 16, 1931
APPEARANCES: For the People Mr. Fitzsimmons For the Defense Mr. Hammerling Mr. Ryan
WITNESSES
Bertha M. Conwell Anna K. McNamara David E. Kahn Gladys Davis Gertrude Adams Cayce Edgar Cayce
J. I. Zinman, Official Court Stenographer
MAGISTRATES’ COURT OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK
BOROUGH OF MANHATTAN: SEVENTH DISTRICT.
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK ON COMPLAINT OF VS. EDGAR CAYCE, GERTRUDE CAYCE, GLADYS DAVIS, Defendants.
Docket No. 7497/98/99
New York City, New York, November 16, 1931.
Before: HON. FRANCIS J. ERWIN, City Magistrate.
CHARGE VIOLATION SECTION 889 C.C.P.
JAMES M. FITZSIMMONS, ESQ., Deputy Assistant District Attorney, For the people.
M. N. Hammerling, ESQ., Attorney for the Defendants,
THOMAS J. RYAN, ESQ., Attorney for the Defendants.
Jacob I. Zinman, Official Stenographer, 7th Court, Man.
C O M P L A I N T
CITY MAGISTRATES’ COURT OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK SEVENTH DISTRICT COURT, BOROUGH OF MANHATTAN.
CITY OF NEW YORK ) ) SS: COUNTY OF NEW YORK)
BERTHA M. CONWELL, of the Women’s Bureau, adult, occupation police woman, being duly sworn, deposes and says, that on the 7th day of November, 1931, at about 3 P.M., at the City and County aforesaid, 1. EDGAR CAYCE, 2. GERTRUDE CAYCE, and 3. GLADYS DAVIS, all now here, while acting together and in concert with one another, did violate Section 899 Code Criminal Procedure, sub-division 3 - defining Disorderly persons, in that they did together pretend to tell fortunes, make predictions as to Deponent’s future, and advised as to investments, trips, conditions of her physical and mental condition and medical advice; - all for the agreed price of (
70.00) seventy dollars; in currency, which was paid by deponent in marked bills, - to Gladys Davis, who acted as Secretary to Defendant, EDGAR CAYCE, who ostensibly went into a trance; and while in a pretended unconscious state, Defendant GERTRUDE CAYCE did submit certain questions to him, referring to Deponent's future and he gave his answers, to her and Defendant GLADYS DAVIS - his Secretary, did make shorthand notes of these answers, and did transcribe same and handed same to Deponent in typewritten form, after Deponent handed her the sum of (70.00) Seventy Dollars, which was the price previously agreed upon.All of the above took place on the above date and time at Hotel Victoria, premises 781 - 7th Ave., Suite No. 2134-5-6- and in presence of Police Woman, ANNA MCNAMARA, of Woman’s Bureau, P.D., the date and price having been arranged for previously. Wherefore Deponent prays that the Defendants be dealt with according to law.
Sworn to before me (Signed) BERTHA M. CONWELL this 8th day of November, 1931.
(Signed) CHARLES BRANDT, JR. City Magistrate
THE COURT: Is everybody ready in this case? THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: We are ready, Judge.
THE COURT: Who do you appear for? MR. HAMMERLING: For the Defendants. Mr. Ryan is Associate Counsel.
THE COURT: You and Ryan appear for the Defendants? MR. HAMMERLING: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: All the defendants? MR. HAMMERLING: Yes, sir.
A VOICE: I am appearing for a friend of the defendants.
THE COURT: And these are the three defendants. You are Edgar Cayce? MR. CAYCE: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: And Gertrude Cayce? MRS. CAYCE: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: And the other lady is Gladys Davis. Is this an adjourned case? MR. RYAN: Yes, Judge.
THE COURT: It has been adjourned twice.
MR. RYAN: The last adjournment was because the Court had sat so late on that day.
THE COURT: I am not asking why. How do you plead? MR. RYAN: Not guilty.
MR. HAMMERLING: Before proceeding with this case, I would like to make a statement.
MR. RYAN: Judge, can we all come up before you, and the District Attorney? THE COURT: Yes.
(Discussion between Court and Counsel off the record.)
THE COURT: Do you want to put anything on the record, Counsellor? MR. HAMMERLING: Yes, your Honor, I would like to read this statement.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I would like to get from Counsel first -
THE COURT: Wait a minute. He wants to put something on the record. I don’t know whether I will allow it to go on the record. I want to find out first what he wants to put on. Mr. Hammerling desires to put a statement on the record.
MR. RYAN: Can I interrupt at this time? Judge Brandt, who was sitting in this Court, refused to allow the photographers to take pictures so that the case would not be prejudged and unnecessary publicity given to the defendants without proper cause, without any reason, the photographers are taking pictures.
THE COURT: Have they already taken them? MR. RYAN: Yes.
THE COURT: As long as I don’t see them, I won’t do anything. I am not giving the photographers permission to take them, but as they have already taken them, I cannot do anything about it. What statement do you want to make to me, and I will see whether I will allow it to go in the record.
MR. HAMMERLING: The Press has stated that the reason for the sealing of the original papers in this action was that the defense counsel stated this case involved a religious organization of which defense counsel was a member. For your Honor’s information, defense counsel wishes to go on record that 1, he is not a member of this organization, that he did not so state, that he is merely its attorney in this particular case. 2, that this is not a religious organization and counsel did not so state, and 3, the reason and the only reason for counsel’s request for the sealing of the papers was in the interests of his client and to avoid, if possible, their being prejudged on this highly false and groundless charge before they had received a fair and just hearing.
THE COURT: Well, now, did Judge Brandt make any statement on the record as to why he sealed the papers? He did not make any statement, did he, on the record? MR. HAMMERLING: Excepting there was a newspaper clipping -
THE COURT: There was publicity given you in the newspaper? MR. HAMMERLING: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: To the effect that you were a member of this so-called religious cult? MR. HAMMERLING: Yes.
THE COURT: And you wish to put on the record that you are not? MR. HAMMERLING: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Well, I won’t allow it to be put on the record. It has nothing to do with this case.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: It will be over my objection.
THE COURT: I am not allowing it to go on the record. It has nothing to do with this case. Proceed.
BERTHA CONWELL, a witness, called by the People, having been first duly sworn, testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY THE COURT:
Q What is you name? A Bertha Conwell, Shield No. 12, Bureau of Police Women.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q You arrested these defendants, Officer? A Yes.
Q State when, where and under what circumstances? What conversations you had with the defendants, if any. A About 2.30 P.M. on Saturday, November 7 -
Q 1931? A 1931, by appointment, Police Woman McNamara and I went to Room No. 2134 in the Victoria Hotel, located at 51st Street and 7th Avenue.
Q 781 Seventh Avenue? A 781 Seventh Avenue.
Q City, County and State of New York? A Yes. I knocked on the door.
THE COURT: Who made this appointment? Q Who made the appointment? A Who made the appointment?
THE COURT: Yes.
A Why, Gladys Davis, the Secretary of Mr. Cayce, called me at 9 o’clock Saturday morning in my room in the Victoria Hotel and told me to come up to Room 2135 at 2.30, that Mr. Cayce would give me my reading.
THE COURT: All right.
A I knocked at the door of Room 2134, and Mr. Cayce -
THE COURT: Were you alone? A I was with Police Woman McNamara.
Q She is here in court now? A And Mr. Edgar Cayce, one of the defendants, opened the door.
BY THE COURT:
Q What time was this? A About 2.30.
Q In the afternoon? A Yes. Police Woman McNamara and I entered the living room or the sitting room of this suite of rooms and in there we saw the other two defendants, Gladys Davis and Mrs. Gertrude Cayce, both of whom were introduced to us by Mr. Edgar Cayce.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q As whom, they were introduced as whom? A As Miss Gladys Davis, my secretary, and Mrs. Gertrude Cayce, my wife. Miss Davis then invited Police Woman McNamara and I to Room 2135.
Q You say “invited”. Will you use the words that were used by the defendants? She said to me, and I said to her. A Miss Davis then asked Police Woman McNamara and I to step into an adjourning room. This was a bedroom. There was a typewriter in the room. Miss Davis sat down at the typewriter. She produced a printed form. She put it in the typewriter. She asked me my name. I gave it to her, and my permanent address. She then asked - she then took the printed form from the typewriter and said to me, “Sign this.” I looked it over and I saw it was an application for membership to the association -
MR. RYAN: Have you that paper?
Q Have you that form? A No, she gave me a copy of a paper.
MR. RYAN: Have you got the form that you signed? THE WITNESS: I didn’t sign a form.
THE COURT: You read it. It was handed to you.
A It was an application for membership to the Association of Research and Enlightenment, Inc., of Virginia Beach, Va. I refused to sign this paper.
Q You keep saying refusing. What words did you use? A I said, “No, I will not sign this paper. If, however, I am sufficiently interested after my reading, I might sign it,” and then she asked me what questions I wanted to ask Mr. Cayce, and she put a piece of paper in the machine and wrote out the questions that I was to ask Mr. Cayce after the reading and during the reading.
Q What did you say to her that she wrote on the machine? Read that off, what did you say to the Defendant Davis? A The first question was, would it be advisable for me to sell my home or not or shall I wait. The second question, what should I do for the pains at the lower part of the brain and the small of my back, and then she had marked question two and a half, will this condition be permanently corrected? The third question is, is this an opportune time to make an investment which I contemplate making next Monday.
THE COURT: Was he in a trance at that time? MR. RYAN: He wasn’t there.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: As I understand, this conversation was being had with the defendant Davis. THE WITNESS: Davis, and Mrs. Gertrude Cayce was also in that room.
THE COURT: Mr. Cayce wasn’t there. I thought he led her in and introduced her to the other two. THE WITNESS: He remained in the sitting room.
BY THE COURT:
Q You went into another room with the two women defendants? A Yes, sir.
Q You said you wanted these questions answered? A Yes.
Q Did you say you wanted them answered by any particular person? A Miss Davis asked me what questions I wanted answered, and she wrote them out for me.
Q Did you tell her what particular person you wanted to answer them? A I have the particular paper.
Q Did you tell these two women defendants what particular person you wanted to answer these questions? A It was all understood that Mr. Cayce was to give me the reading.
MR. RYAN: I move to strike that out.
THE COURT: Strike it out.
Q Did you ask these two women? A Yes, I wanted Mr. Cayce to answer these questions.
Q Mr. Cayce was not in the room. A He was not. And then Question 4, will I ever get back the big loan I have out. Question 5, is it advisable to take the trip I had been contemplating. Question 6, if so, when shall I go, and Question 7, will my sister recover from her illness.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q This piece of paper that you hold in your hand, where did you get that from? A Miss Gladys Davis wrote that out on the machine, and Mrs. Cayce -
BY THE COURT:
Q At your dictation? A At my dictation.
Q After you told her you wanted these questions answered? A Yes, sir.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I offer this in evidence. (The piece of paper above referred to was received in evidence and marked People’s exhibit 1.)
Q After People’s Exhibit 1 in evidence was completed, what happened then? A Then Miss Davis said to me, “do you want to pay me now, do you want to let me have your check for $70.”, and I said, “No, I would pay after the reading,” and that was agreeable, and then the four of us, Mrs. Cayce, Miss Davis, Policewoman McNamara and I went into another bedroom of the suite and we sat around on one of the twin beds in the room. Policewoman McNamara and I were sitting at the head of the bed, and Gladys Davis on one side and Mrs. Cayce on another. After a minute or so, Mr. Cayce appeared in the doorway of a little foyer and he took his coat off and he hung it up in the closet of the foyer. He came into the room and reclined on the bed.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q In his shirt sleeves? A In his shirt sleeves, yes, sir.
THE COURT: Don’t lead her.
A He relined on the bed and his head was at the foot of the bed, propped up on two pillows. After he closed his eyes Mrs. Cayce read from a small black book which she had. The first line was, “You have before us, you have before you,” -
MR. RYAN: Haven’t you got those answers written out? THE WITNESS: The answers?
MR. RYAN: Yes. THE WITNESS: Yes.
MR. RYAN: Why don’t you produce them?
Q Have you got the answers written out? A Yes.
MR. RYAN: This was all written down, and we can save a lot of time.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: If you have them written out, produce the paper they are written on. What the officer is going to read now, I presume, is what Mrs. Cayce read from the book.
MR. RYAN: I don’t care what you presume, let the witness testify.
THE WITNESS: It will take me an hour to read all of that.
Q Does this contain everything? A With the exception of one question.
Q With the exception of which question? A One question, that is all. It contains the entire reading.
BY THE COURT:
Q In other words, as I understand it, after you asked these questions about the big loan and the trip and the illness of your sister and so forth, which you told these two women defendants you wanted answered - A Yes?
Q You were taken into another room? A Yes.
Q And the defendant, Mr. Cayce, went into an alleged trance or trance, is that right? A That’s it.
Q Did anybody do anything to put him in the trance? A Oh, no, he just laid down on the bed and closes his eyes.
Q And went off into a trance? A Yes.
Q An alleged trance? A He closed his eyes.
Q And then these questions that you dictated to these two women defendants, marked People’s Exhibit 1, were asked of him? A Yes.
Q Is that right? A Yes.
Q Together with other questions that you and your companion, the other police officer, propounded to him? A Yes.
Q While he was in that so-called trance? A Yes.
Q In other words, as you see in these spiritualist meetings at different times on the stage, you ask questions and somebody is supposed to go in a trance, and you ask a lot of questions and they answer; is that the way the thing was done? A Mrs. Cayce asked the questions.
Q Were you ever up to the Beacon Theatre a few months ago? A No.
Q To see that woman answer questions propounded to her? A No, I have not.
Q I wanted to know if you had, because I want to know if it was done in the same way. He just laid down on the bed? A Yes.
Q He didn’t say anything to you? A He closed his eyes.
Q He didn’t say anything going into the trance? A No, but on the Thursday previous, he told us he was unconscious when he answered these questions.
Q In other words, you understood that you were going there because these two women and this man defendant had held themselves out to you and your partner as being able to answer certain questions while the male defendant was in a trance? A Yes.
Q Through him as a medium, is that the idea? A Yes, sir.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q Well, now, officer, you were testifying before and you said that the female defendant Cayce read something out of a book? A Yes.
Q Well now, is what the female defendant read out of a book contained in this writing that you handed to me? A Yes, right on the first page.
BY THE COURT:
Q Where did you get them? A After the reading and after the arrest was made, we requested Miss Davis - Detective Horrance and I requested Miss Davis to transcribe her notes. She was taking the notes.
Q She was taking your questions to Mr. Davis, he was in the so-called trance or trance, taking notes down stenographically. A That’s it.
Q Your questions and his answers? A Yes.
Q And after that you requested that they be transcribed? A Yes, sir.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q And this paper that you hand me, with the exception of one question - A That is all.
Q Contains in there the entire proceeding from the time Mr. Cayce laid on top of the bed? A That’s it.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: Is there any objection to my offering it in evidence?
MR. RYAN: We ask that it be marked in evidence.
(The paper above referred to was received in evidence and marked People’s Exhibit 2.)
Q You say there is one question not contained in People’s Exhibit 2. What is that question? MR. RYAN: I object to that. The witness has already testified that this statement contains everything that went on, including the reading.
THE WITNESS: With the exception of one question.
THE COURT: And one answer.
Q What is that one question? A Miss Davis had left the room. There was a slight commotion and she went out of the room and then I said to Gertrude Cayce, “Can I ask one more question?” Mr. Cayce was still in this alleged trance. She says, “Yes, what is it?” “Will I marry again?” He said, “Yes, you will marry again, I had two husbands”, and then after a moment or so he came to. He sat up in bed and he said, “See Miss Davis”, so Policewoman McNamara and I walked out to Miss Davis’ room and she said, “Will you pay me now?” I took out seventy dollars that I had in my handbag.
Q In cash? A Yes, in bills, seventy dollars. There were two twenties, three tens. I gave them to Miss Davis, at the same time saying, “Will you let me have a receipt for this money”, and Policewoman McNamara at that moment left the room, to call in Detective Horrance and he came in the room while Miss Davis was writing out the receipt.
Q Have you got the receipt with you now? A Yes.
Q And this is the receipt referred to by you? A That’s it.
Q That you received from the defendant Davis? A Yes, sir.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I offer it in evidence.
MR. RYAN: It is only binding on the Defendant Davis.
THE COURT: I will take it.
(The receipt above referred to was received in evidence and marked People’s Exhibit 3.)
Q What happened after that, Officer, after you received that? A Detective Horrance walked in the room when Miss Davis was counting the money and we told her we were police officers and we were placing her under arrest.
Q What conversation did you have with any of the defendants from that time on? A Well, I saw a few letters lying on Miss Davis’ bureau there and I looked at them and I asked whether I could take them. I gave them a receipt for three letters which I have here in my possession and also I asked her if I could take her notebook that she used in making stenographic notes, which she gave me also.
Q Have you got that book here? A I have.
Q Have you had the stenographic notes that you say are contained in this book which you received from Miss Davis, have you had them read by a stenographer? A No, I did not.
THE COURT: Do you think they can be read by a stenographer?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: It all depends on whether the systems are similar. I don’t think it is possible. A part of them can be read.
Q Were there any other further conversations that you can testify to? A Nothing at all.
Q Did anybody else in your presence have any conversation? A I remained in the room with Miss Davis while she was writing out these notes and Policewoman McNamara and the Detective were in the other room talking to the two defendants.
Q After the arrest, were there any further statements other than what you have testified to made by the defendants? A No.
Q Not either to you or to anyone in your presence? A No.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is all.
CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. RYAN:
Q How long were you at the Victoria Hotel?
BY THE COURT:
Q All these questions you asked this man here, this defendant, the man I mean while he was in the alleged trance or trance about the big loan, the trip and whether you were going to get married again and about your sister and all that, you made all this up, is that right? A Yes.
Q You never made a big loan to anybody? A No I did not.
Q You were not contemplating a trip? They were used for the purpose of entrapping this defendant?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: If the Court please, I object to the word “entrapping” used by the Court.
MR. RYAN: I am entitled to a word.
THE COURT: You can have your objection.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I want it for the record.
Q I mean, they were not honest questions. A No, they were not honest questions.
Q And by honest questions, I mean you had no big loan out. A No.
Q You contemplated no trip? A No.
Q I am not criticizing you at all, I want to get that straight.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: Are there any further questions? THE COURT: That is all.
CROSS-EXAMINATION
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Did you have any loans out? A No.
Q Then, does anybody owe you any money?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that on the ground that it is immaterial, irrelevant and incompetent and it has been answered.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q Officer, did you have a talk about this Association for Research and Enlightenment of Virginia Beach, Va., with anyone? A No I did not.
Q Did you get an application blank? A No.
Q Didn’t you just testify on direct examination that you took an application blank away with you? A After the arrest was made.
Q Where is it? A Right here.
Q Didn’t you read this? A No, she asked me to sign it. I read the two or three top lines.
THE COURT: You are satisfied that this paper is a true and accurate copy of the application that you were asked to sign? THE WITNESS: Yes.
Q And didn’t you say you might sign it later? A I said if I was sufficiently interested after the reading, I might sign it.
Q What address did you give when you were asked? THE COURT: Are you putting that in evidence now? MR. RYAN: Yes.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to it.
THE COURT: I will receive it.
(The paper above referred to was received in evidence and marked Defendant’s Exhibit A)
Q What address did you give Officer, when you were asked by Miss Davis? A Wilmington, Delaware.
Q Do you live in Wilmington, Delaware. A No I do not.
Q Are you a widow? A No.
Q Didn’t you also say that you are unemployed and a housewife? A Oh no, I never used that word at all, “unemployed”.
Q Isn’t it a fact Officer, you did say that you were desirous of becoming a member of this Association? A No I did not.
Q And you want the Court to believe that you just looked over the first couple of lines on this application and you didn’t go any further?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that.
THE COURT: Overruled.
A That’s what I read.
Q And isn’t it a fact Officer, that in the presence of these two defendants, you did sign this application? A No it is not.
THE COURT: Which two?
Q The two female defendants? A I did not.
Q And you did cause to be written on that application that your address is in Wilmington, Delaware? A I told her that.
Q And she did write down, “Wilmington Delaware” on the application blank? THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: If the Court please, I object to any further testimony unless the original application blank is produced.
THE WITNESS: Miss Davis would have it.
MR. RYAN: If the Stenographer will read the question -
THE COURT: I will get the whole picture here.
Q Where is that application? A Miss Davis will have it.
Q Didn’t you take it with you? A No I did not.
Q And didn’t you destroy it? A I did not, absolutely not.
Q Didn’t you take all the papers away from her? A I did not.
Q What else have you got there?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is objected to.
MR. RYAN: The Court wants all the facts.
THE COURT: Overruled.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: If the Court please, this attorney cannot ask the Officer -
THE COURT: Don’t argue it. This attorney can do anything he pleases if I allow him to do it.
THE WITNESS: These are the duplicate readings. She made three copies.
Q What else have you got there? A And these are the three letters and they have a receipt for the taking of these three letters, and that is all.
THE COURT: Will Counsel stipulate, that includes the District Attorney, that there was such a corporation as the one in question here in existence as shown on that application? THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I cannot stipulate to that, I don’t know.
THE COURT: If you don’t know, you cannot stipulate.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I cannot stipulate.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q These letters all show that they came from the Association for Research and Enlightenment? A Yes.
Q And how long have you had them in your possession? A About eight days.
Q Have you made any inquiries about that corporation? A No, I did not.
Q Did you ask anybody about it at all? A No.
THE COURT: Weren’t you interested in it? A Well, Virginia Beach, I don’t know where I could get the information from, Your Honor.
Q Officer, did you have a warrant when you went there? A No.
Q Did you have a complaint? A We went there on a complaint.
Q Did you make a complaint, a formal complaint? A To the Court I did.
Q What Court? A Right here.
Q When? A On Sunday, November 8.
Q That was after the arrest? A Yes.
THE COURT: Let me ask a question. Isn’t it customary, Officer, that in these so-called fortune telling cases, that you swear out a warrant before you make an arrest? THE WITNESS: Yes.
THE COURT: Did you do that in this case? THE WITNESS: I did not.
MR. RYAN: I respectfully move the Court that this complaint be dismissed because under the law the complaint and warrant must be executed simultaneously.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: Here is a misdemeanor committed in the presence of the officer. Why should a warrant be necessary? THE COURT: You made your motion? MR. RYAN: I did.
THE COURT: I will deny it.
MR. RYAN: Exception. In the record, can I cite an opinion? THE COURT: Yes.
MR. RYAN: Exception made to His Honor’s ruling. Counsel for the defendants states the case of People against Feurst, 34 N.Y. sup., 1115. People ex-rel. Kohler against Powers 35 Mis. 775
THE WITNESS: I know that to be customary but the circumstances surrounding this arrest was such I could not apply for a warrant.
THE COURT: In other words, your contention is there were circumstances that made it inadvisable - THE WITNESS: They told me they were leaving town that night at six o’clock, and they gave me my reading at three, so there was no chance to apply for a warrant, I didn’t have time.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: As a matter of fact, you saw packed trunks around the floor of the apartment. THE WITNESS: Why yes, everything was ready to go, this was the last reading they were giving.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Your sole thought was to make an arrest before they got out of town?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that on the ground that it is immaterial, irrelevant and incompetent.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q How long were you in that hotel? A About eight days.
Q And did you turn in a voucher to the police department for your eight days?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that on the ground that it is immaterial, irrelevant and incompetent.
THE COURT: Sustained.
MR. RYAN: I want to show there is bias, and a deliberate attempt to entrap the defendants and paid for by somebody not connected with the police department.
THE COURT: Are you through with this witness?
Q I show you this third block from the top. Will you read that to the Court?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that, it is in evidence.
THE COURT: It is in evidence.
Q Did you read that third block from the top where it says thirty-five dollars? A No, I did not. I just read what I told you.
Q For the first time you read it today? A Just now.
Q And you have had that paper in your possession for a week, and that’s as true as everything else you have testified to today?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to the form of the question.
THE COURT: She may answer it.
Q Is that a fact? A It is not.
BY THE COURT:
Q Do you understand that question, do you understand the form of the question? A He asked me did I read that block at the time of the arrest and on that Saturday, and I said I did not. I simply read the application for associate membership to the Association of Research and Enlightenment, Virginia Beach, Va., and when I saw that, I didn’t see anything in the application - I didn’t wish to make any application therefore I didn’t sign it.
THE COURT: That is all.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Weren’t you told the only way you could get a reading was by signing that application? A Oh no.
Q Is that as true as anything else that you have said? A That is the truth.
Q Did you turn in a voucher for the $70. to the police department? THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is objected to on the ground that it is immaterial, irrelevant and incompetent.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q Are you getting paid any money for making this arrest by anybody outside the police department?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that.
THE COURT: I will take it.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: If the Court please, -
Q Will you please answer? A I have a salary.
Q Will you please answer my question? A No, I did not, I have a salary.
Q That is all. A I am paid by the city for this type of work.
MR. RYAN: That is all.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is all.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Will you please answer the question? A What?
MR. RYAN: Will you please read the question? (Question read by the Stenographer) THE WITNESS: No, I am not.
BY THE COURT:
Q Have you ever been to these so-called spiritualists’ meetings where people go in a trance or in trances and answer questions, did you ever go to spiritualists’ meetings? A Oh yes.
Q Spiritualists’ churches? A Yes.
Q Spiritualist meetings in apartments, etc. A Yes.
Q Different spiritualist bodies? A Yes.
Q Was this trance or alleged trance that this male defendant went into a trance similar to those that you have seen in spiritualist meetings? A Well, I never just did see anybody going into a trance, your Honor. They closed their eyes. They sit up and close their eyes.
Q You have seen that done at spiritualist meetings on numerous occasions? A Yes.
Q And what he did was similar to this other? A Yes.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q Well, similar, similar in what respect? A Closing the eyes.
Q And if I closed my eyes, you could say I was in the same sort of a trance as this defendant? A That is all he did was to close his eyes.
BY THE COURT:
Q You have been to these spiritualist meetings where a man closes his eyes or a woman, and they propound questions to him? A Yes, and they are sitting up.
Q And that is what this defendant did? A He was lying down on the bed.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Did you ever make any arrest in a spiritualist meeting that you have attended? THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that on the ground that it is incompetent, immaterial and irrelevant.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q Did you read in the reading, time of reading, it says 3 P.M., Eastern Standard Time, Miss Bertha Gorman, Wilmington, Delaware, do you remember that statement, you have had this in your possession for a week, I will show you the original, perhaps it is easier to read. A Yes, I read the entire thing.
Q And that contains practically what was said with the exception of one question that you testified to? A Yes, sir.
Q And at that time it was said in front of you that Miss Bertha Gorman, present in this room, comes seeking advice, counsel and guidance. That is a fact, isn’t it? A Yes.
Q And you did come there seeking advice, didn’t you? Whether the questions were fictitious or not, you came there seeking advice? A I came to have the questions answered.
Q You came there to have questions answered and seeking advice, isn’t that the fact? A I came to have questions answered.
Q And you were seeking advice?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: How could she seek advice about something that never existed? I object to that.
THE COURT: Sustained. We have the picture here, Mr. Ryan.
MR. RYAN: I know, but I want to bring to your Honor’s attention, just this that was introduced in evidence.
THE COURT: I have read that exhibit. What is the number of it?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: People’s Exhibit 2.
THE COURT: I have read it.
MR. RYAN: She came there seeking advice, counsel and guidance.
THE COURT: I read it.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q When you had any conversation with any of these defendants previous to the time the defendant Cayce laid in the bed, did you ever use the word “advice”? A No, I asked him whether I could ask questions.
Q Did you ever use the words, “counsel or guidance” to these defendants? A No, I did not.
Q Previous to the time Cayce laid on the bed? A No.
Q Those words were used by Mrs. Cayce? A Not by me.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q You were there and they were said in your presence? A Yes, I was there.
Q You didn’t say - A I did not interrupt the meeting.
THE COURT: You did not protest? A I did not interrupt the meeting.
Q You did not give the money to Mr. Cayce? A I gave $70. to Gladys Davis.
Q And do you know whether or not he was in a trance? A I don’t know.
Q Do you know whether or not he was conscious of your presence in the room when Mrs. Cayce was talking to him?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q Who framed these questions that you asked?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that on the ground it is immaterial, irrelevant and incompetent.
THE COURT: Sustained.
MR. RYAN: That is all.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is all.
THE COURT: Won’t the other policewoman testify? THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I will swear her and ask her if she has anything in addition to what has already been testified to.
ANNA K. MCNAMARA, a policewoman, bearing Shield No. 85, attached to the Bureau of Policewomen, called as a witness in behalf of the People, having been first duly sworn, testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q You were with the previous witness on the occasion testified to? A I was.
Q Have you any other testimony other than what has been given us by the previous witness on the stand? A No, I have not.
Q And the only testimony that you have to testify to, you would testify to the very same matter as has been testified to by the previous witness? A That’s right.
CROSS-EXAMINATION
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Were you present at the alleged reading? A I was.
Q Did you see Mr. Cayce on the bed? A I did.
Q Did he move at all during the course of this alleged reading.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q Were you asked what your maiden names were? A My maiden name?
Q Were you asked? A No.
Q Did you read any of these papers in the last week that have been introduced in evidence today? A I looked them over.
Q Did you look this over?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: Referring to Defendant’s Exhibit A.
A No, I did not see that. Mrs. Gorman or Mrs. Conwell read it over in the beginning.
Q What? A Miss Conwell read it over and when Miss Davis asked her to sign it, I heard her say if she was sufficiently interested after the reading she would sign it.
Q And she did promise to sign it? A Yes, but she didn’t sign it.
Q She promised to sign it? A She said if she was sufficiently interested.
Q She did say she would sign it? A No, she didn’t.
THE COURT: She has testified if.
THE WITNESS: If she was sufficiently interested, after the reading she would sign it. Those are the words she used.
BY THE COURT:
Q You say to me it is an impossibility for the preceding witness to have signed an application similar to the one shown you while you were in that apartment? A No, I was with her all the time.
Q Watching her every minute? A Every minute.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q There was something said, you have been here, about this Association for Research and Enlightenment, Inc., of Virginia Beach, Va., wasn’t there? A No, I didn’t hear anything about that.
Q You didn’t hear anything said about that at all? A No.
Q And you didn’t give it any thought at all, did you?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to the form of the question.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q You did not make any inquiries about it at all? A No, I did not.
Q Yet you knew this application was the one that your partner was asked to sign? A Well, I saw it afterwards.
Q What do you mean you saw it afterwards? A I heard Miss Davis ask her if she wanted to sign it and I glanced at the top and I saw application and I didn’t read further. Mrs. Conwell refused to sign it. She said if she was sufficiently interested after the reading, she would sign it then.
Q But she hadn’t paid any money to anyone at that time, isn’t that the fact? A Yes, no, that’s right. She paid the money afterwards, after the reading.
Q Hadn’t you left the room when the $70. was placed on the desk? A No, I had not, I was present in the room.
Q Didn’t you go outside of the room to get a police officer? A I went out of the room after Miss Davis accepted the $70. and was writing a receipt for the money.
BY THE COURT:
Q When you went out of the room when she was writing the receipt for the money, was your partner still in the room? A Yes.
Q You and your partner had seen this application when you went out of the room? A Yes, but she was asked to sign it before the reading.
Q Might she not have signed it in the apartment after you went out? A That was after the reading.
Q You went out and left your partner in there? A Yes sir.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q How long were you gone altogether? A Less than five minutes.
Q Was there anything said about an application after you returned? A No.
Q Did you see the application? A No.
Q Did you see Miss Davis’ desk? A Yes, I saw the desk.
Q Did you see the application on the desk? A I did not.
Q Do you know what became of the application after Miss Davis wrote on the typewriter? A I don’t know.
BY THE COURT:
Q But you do know now, when you testified it was an impossibility for your partner to have signed an application in the apartment because you were there every minute that she was there, you were mistaken?
A Only after the money was accepted and Miss Davis was writing out the receipt, I was there.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q When you came back after having left the apartment, did you hear the application made at all? A No.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Tell me what happened as to the application that was made out with your partner’s name? A I don’t know, I didn’t see it.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to the use of that -
THE COURT: You let her answer and then you object.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that.
THE COURT: Overruled.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: One minute, Judge.
THE COURT: Overruled.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: The question was, “do you know what happened to the application with your partner’s name on it?”
THE COURT: Overruled.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Did you see any application picked up at all? A I did not.
Q Did you see this picked up? A I did not.
Q Do you know where it came from? A Well, I believe -
Q Do you know where it came from? A Do I know where it came from?
THE COURT: Referring to Exhibit what? MR. RYAN: Defendant’s Exhibit A.
THE COURT: Don’t you think you have pursued this line of questioning enough? Is that all? THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I have another witness, I have the officer.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Do you know where it came from? A I believe Policewoman Conwell got it with the other papers.
Q Of your own knowledge, do you know where it came from? A Well, I don’t understand you.
Q I don’t want you to testify to what you believe or what you think or what you were told. I want to know, do you know where this came from, did you see anybody take this paper? A Yes, I believe Policewoman Conwell took it.
Q Did you see anybody take it? You understand me? A Yes, I saw Policewoman Conwell take it.
Q When did she take it? A After the reading.
Q After the reading? A Yes.
Q That is before you went outside? A Yes.
Q Did she take it while the receipt was being typewritten? A No, it was after.
Q Isn’t it a fact - A After we came back.
Q After you came back? A Yes.
Q You are not sure? A Yes, I am positive.
MR. RYAN: That is all.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: There is another Detective, a male detective in this case but they tell me now that he is up in the Harlem Court.
THE COURT: What do you want me to do about it? You said you were ready.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I don’t want you to go there and look for him.
THE COURT: I know, but you answered ready.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I will rest on the testimony of these two witnesses.
THE COURT: All right.
MR. RYAN: I renew my application.
THE COURT: Your application is denied, your motion. I want to hear these defendants. Who is this man? MR. RYAN: It is a Virginia Corporation.
THE COURT: That is what I want to know.
DAVID E. KAHN, a witness, called in behalf of the defendants, having been first duly sworn, testified as follows:
BY THE COURT:
Q What is your name? A David E. Kahn.
Q Where do you live? A 44 West 77th Street.
Q What is your business or occupation? A Manufacturer.
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Do you know the Association for Research and Membership Enlightenment of Virginia Beach, Va? A I do.
Q Are you associated with that organization? A I am.
Q In what capacity? A I am a Director.
Q Do you know Mr. Cayce? A I have known him for twenty years.
THE COURT: You mean this defendant, Mr. Cayce?
Q Mr. Cayce, the defendant? A Yes sir.
MR. RYAN: At this time I offer the certified copy of the certificate of incorporation, together with a copy of the minutes of the corporation.
THE COURT: I will take it.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: Can I see it? I want to see who it has been certified by? MR. RYAN: It is duly certified.
THE COURT: I looked it over. Certified by the Clerk of the Surrogate’s Court. This certificate of incorporation, you better mark it in evidence.
(The certificate of incorporation above referred to was received in evidence and marked Defendant’s Exhibit B.)
BY THE COURT:
Q This certificate states, among other things, one of the purposes of the Corporation is to conduct and carry on psychic and scientific research, psychic and social investigations? A Yes sir.
Q And for the investigation of psychic phenomena? A Yes sir.
Q The giving and interpretation of psychic readings. The corporation shall have the power to collect fees for their work? A Yes sir.
Q This defendant Cayce, here, was he ever an officer or director of this corporation? A Your Honor, I am not sure whether he is an officer or director. It was proposed that he would be an officer or director.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is objected to.
THE COURT: That is an answer.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Do you know in what capacity he is associated with this corporation?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that.
THE COURT: Overruled. I want to know, is this an association, was he hired by this society? THE WITNESS: Yes sir.
Q And was there a resolution passed by the Board of Directors of this corporation employing Mr. Cayce? A Yes sir.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that.
THE COURT: Overruled.
Q Do you know? A Yes sir.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I think the minutes would be the best evidence.
MR. RYAN: I have introduced them.
Q Do you know of your own knowledge - is this a copy?
THE COURT: Do you offer the minutes? MR. RYAN: I will offer the entire minutes embodying that resolution.
THE COURT: I will take it.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: If it is a copy, I object to it. The original is the best evidence.
MR. RYAN: I will have a witness swear that this is a true copy.
THE COURT: Why don’t you try to shorten this hearing by stipulating in the record that that is a true copy? THE WITNESS: I was present when the resolution was passed and written.
MR. RYAN: I submit that that is proper proof.
THE WITNESS: I was there in Virginia for that purpose.
MR. RYAN: I will offer it.
THE COURT: I will take it.
(The minutes above referred to were received in evidence and marked Defendant’s Exhibit C.)
Q Who receives or who benefits by the monies received from the membership?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q Where does the money go? THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to the form of the question.
MR. RYAN: Can I complete the question? THE COURT: Yes.
Q What becomes of the money that is taken in from readings of memberships?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to the question.
THE COURT: Overruled.
THE WITNESS: It goes to the Association.
Q Will you answer?
MR. RYAN: Will you read the question.
(The Stenographer read the question referred to)
THE WITNESS: It goes to the Association.
BY THE COURT:
Q You know of your own personal knowledge that this Defendant Mr. Cayce has sent monies to the Association? A Yes sir.
Q That he claimed to have received from readings? A Yes sir, I do, many years.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q And has that Association a bank account? A There was a bank account opened and they have one now. I am reasonably sure of that. It was opened, I know.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that answer and I move to strike it out. He does not know.
THE WITNESS: I can say I am sure a bank account was opened and is open.
Q And does Mr. Cayce keep for his own benefit, his own personal benefit, any monies that come in as the result of readings?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that question on the ground that it is leading.
THE COURT: Sustained
Q Is this a form of the application that is used? A It is.
THE COURT: Referring to Exhibit A.
BY THE COURT:
Q Do you know of your own personal knowledge how many members of this Association has? A Your Honor, I know there are more than one hundred. I could say nearer to two thousand, but I know more than one hundred. It has been going on for a number of years.
Q How many years? A The work was organized seven years ago in June.
Q What is it, spiritualistic? A No sir, it is just what the charter says. It is an organization that was organized for the investigation of this man’s work. The man has an unusual -
Q This man Cayce? A This defendant Cayce has an unusual power. What it is, no one has been able to tell. I have had lawyers, doctors, presidents of universities in this city, the most prominent people and not any man has been able to say anything but that it is perfectly remarkable and what he says is the truth. We are investigating to see whether the things work out from the advice and counsel that he gives. That is what the Association is organized for. We publish records. We meet regularly. We have various people coming from various places to see the form and tell us what they think of it and for years I have known the man, I have known the man for twenty years, I had him in more than twenty cities, not as a money making proposition and our charter is organized for the purpose of investigation and these records are kept in our archives. We have an association for that purpose. We have secretaries to compute the information and compare it from time to time, and I could go into a very lengthy discussion.
Q In other words, this organization is not organized for the purpose of profit? A No sir, it is absolutely not.
Q Never declared a dividend? A Never, and never will. The charter states that anybody who wants to make a donation can do it.
Q In other words, as it reads and says, are not the subject of commerce? A No sir. If, I may say to you, I have known from my experience, checks have been laid down for $100,000. and as large as a million dollars by an executive of a very large institution, and in both cases they were turned down because the man is not commercializing it, and a poor man from the street can come in.
Q You have twenty-five trustees in the organization? A I am not sure of the exact amount but about that number.
Q Your certificate of incorporation says the purposes of the said corporation are to be philanthropic and benevolent and it is not organized for profit? A Yes sir.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Is the Association organized for psychic research? A For that only.
MR. RYAN: For the information of the Court, can I show your Honor the definition in the Encyclopedia Brittanica of psychic research?
THE COURT: Yes, I would like to see it.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Do you know of your own knowledge as a Director or Trustee of this Association whether there is any obligation on anyone applying to Mr. Cayce for a reading? A No sir. There is nothing but one thing. You must sign an application to become a member of the Association.
THE COURT: Before he will give you a reading? A Yes sir, positive.
Q And the application, does it say the privilege - be granted the privilege or the right -
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that. It speaks for itself.
THE COURT: It speaks for itself.
MR. RYAN: I withdraw the question.
THE WITNESS: I don’t know whether I am in order, but there were only fourteen readings given this week and for every one of them we have a signed application.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to this voluntary statement.
THE COURT: Strike it out.
Q Do you know of anyone every obtaining a reading without signing an application? A Not to my knowledge.
THE COURT: Have you any records that shows whether the $70. received from these two policewomen who have testified here, was forwarded to the Association? MR. RYAN: That money was taken back by the policewoman.
THE COURT: Oh, it was? MR. RYAN: Oh, yes.
THE WITNESS: I might say to your Honor -
THE COURT: He said it was taken back. I didn’t get that straight.
MR. RYAN: Yes.
THE COURT: At the time of the arrest they took it back? MR. RYAN: Yes.
Q Monies taken in for initiations or for whatever purpose, were they forwarded to the Association? A Always, as far as I know.
MR. RYAN: That is all.
CROSS EXAMINATION BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q As far as you know? A I am a member of the board of directors, and I know what goes on at every meeting.
Q You are not present when the money is paid to Mr. Cayce? A No.
Q You don’t know under what circumstances it is paid to Mr. Cayce? A I know the circumstances under which they are given.
Q If you are not present, you don’t know? A We have rules and regulations.
THE COURT: If he isn’t present, obviously he doesn’t know.
Q On this particular occasion, you were not present? A I was not.
Q Do you maintain that Mr. Cayce has the power to predict future events? A I don’t maintain any one thing. I only told you that we have an association of investigation and that is what we are organized for. If I knew, we would not have the association investigating.
Q You are investigating whether or not he has the power to predict future events? A Anything he does. Whatever comes from Mr. Cayce we investigate just as Amherst College is doing it every day.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I move to strike that out.
THE COURT: You brought it on. Let him answer.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I did not ask him what Amherst College is doing.
MR. RYAN: You didn’t know what he was going to answer.
THE COURT: You brought it on.
Q Where is that bank account? A In Virginia Beach.
Q Do you know the name of the bank down there? A I may misquote it.
Q Either you know or you don’t know.
THE COURT: Let the man answer.
A I have 20 bank accounts of my own and I can’t tell you what the names are.
THE COURT: To the best of your knowledge.
A Virginia Savings and Trust.
Q That is what you think? A I don’t know, my mind is hazy on it.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is all.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Do you keep a complete record of every reading? A Yes sir, it has to go into the archives. No one can receive a confidential reading. It is the property of the Association. There are three copies made. One goes to the archives, one goes to the person who receives the reading, and one goes to Mr. Cayce. He cannot give a reading until the stenographer is there to take it down and that’s the way they are made.
Q And you are positive the Association gets a copy of every reading? A Absolutely.
Q And you heard the testimony, there was an original and two copies of this reading? A Yes sir.
Q So that there would be no differences in this practice? A There is no difference.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q But you didn’t see a copy? A I did not.
Q You say that this organization is run for a charitable purpose? A Absolutely.
Q How do you arrive at the amount in the application? Twenty dollars, twenty-five dollars and thirty-five dollars? A That is the type of membership. We have memberships of $120., like any organization, you can get a different type of membership, but it all goes to the same source.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is all.
BY MR RYAN:
Q Is this the form of the average reading? A That is the form.
Q Referring to People’s Exhibit 2. Is this the form of the average reading? A Yes.
Q And is this - are these words in every reading that you have ever seen? A Always.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q Do you know of your own knowledge whether or not this corporation has filed a certificate? MR. RYAN: We have offered the certified copy in evidence.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I thought that was the charter certified to by the Clerk of the Court of Virginia Beach?
MR. RYAN: That is all.
THE COURT: What else have you got? MR. RYAN: I will put Miss Davis on.
GLADYS DAVIS, a defendant, having first been duly sworn, testified as follows:
BY THE COURT:
Q What is your name? A Gladys Davis.
Q Where do you live? A Virginia Beach, Va.
Q What is your business or occupation? A Secretary to Mr. Edgar Cayce.
DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. RYAN:
Q Do you know a Dr. Berger? A Yes.
Q Is he a member of the Association? A No.
Q When did you speak to either of these policewomen for the first time? A I couldn’t say the exact day. They phoned several days in succession preceding the Saturday on which they had the appointment.
Q They phoned several days in succession? A Yes sir.
Q What name did they give? A Mrs. Bertha Gorman.
Q And did you have any conversation with her about the Association? A Yes.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to the witness being led. If she had any conversation she can so state.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q Did you have a conversation with this policewoman? A Yes.
Q What was the conversation about? A You mean the whole conversation?
Q Yes? If we have to go into it that way? A Well, she first telephoned me about an appointment. She wanted to make an appointment for a reading with Mr. Cayce.
Q What did you say? A I told her we did not have any time open, that Mr. Cayce had all his appointments taken and we were leaving Saturday and there was no time open and she would have to write to Virginia Beach to get an appointment.
Q You told her that she would have to write to Virginia Beach to get an appointment? A Yes.
Q Did you tell her who she would have to write to in Virginia Beach. A No.
Q Did you say anything about joining any body?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that question on the ground it is leading.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q Did you tell her of any person or individual or associa tion or corporation or anybody in Virginia Beach that she should get in touch with?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that question on the ground it is leading.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q What was the next conversation that you had with this policewoman? A She kept calling about an appointment and it happened we had Saturday afternoon open because one of our members felt bad or couldn’t keep their appointment.
Q I can’t hear you? A One of our members could not keep their appointment for Saturday afternoon and Mrs. Gorman, the name she gave us, she seemed so anxious for the reading and needed help so badly, she pleaded with me to give her the appointment.
Q Who were those readings given to, if you know?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to the form of the question.
THE COURT: That is a conclusion.
Q If you know?
THE COURT: In other words, you did not go around and solicit these two policewomen to come there and get a reading? A Absolutely not.
Q What did they say to you as to how they got in touch with you? A They didn’t say anything as to how they heard about Mr. Cayce.
Q Did you tell them to whom the readings are given?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is objected to on the ground that it is leading.
MR. RYAN: It is not.
THE COURT: Sustained. I think you have asked her enough questions.
MR. RYAN: I haven’t.
THE WITNESS: She had the appointment for Saturday afternoon. I gave her the appointment.
Q Are readings given to anyone at all? A No.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is objected to.
Q Who are readings given to? A To members only. People have to comply to our rules before they can have a reading.
Q When you say members only, what do you mean? A Members of our Association.
Q What is your Association? A Association for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.
Q Did you tell these ladies that? A Yes.
Q And what did they say? A She didn’t want to sign the application, but Mrs. Cayce explained to her that it was necessary to sign the application as we were working under the charter of the State of Virginia and that members - she could not get a reading -
THE COURT: I want to interrupt the witness. Were you there when Mrs. Cayce was having the conversation with the policewoman? A Yes.
Q Will you go right ahead? A And so she didn’t want to sign the application but she sat down and she said, “May I read it,” and I said, “Certainly, you are supposed to read it,” so she read it and signed it on the right had side where it says, “Applicant.”
Q Who filled in the address on the application? A I did. She gave me her address as Wilmington, Delaware.
Q What did she tell you her employment was? A She said she was unemployed.
Q Did she say she was married? A She said she was a widow and traveling for her health.
Q What happened to the application? A I don’t know, it disappeared.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is objected to and I ask that the answer be stricken out.
THE COURT: Motion denied.
Q Did you take up the application? A No, I left it lying there on the desk.
Q Were any papers picked off your desk? A Yes.
Q Did you see anybody pick papers off your desk? A Yes.
Q Who took the papers off your desk? A The two women and the two men detectives, one man detective who came in the room.
Q The three of them were there. A Yes.
Q And they took all the papers? A Yes.
Q Did they take up any checks? A I don’t know, I didn’t have any checks in there?
Q Did they go into Mr. Cayce’s pocket? A No.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to this witness being led, I think he is carrying this a little bit too far.
Q Did the policewoman have a warrant at the time they came into your apartment?
THE COURT: It is conceded they did not.
BY THE COURT:
Q Has Mr. Cayce, this defendant, ever to your knowledge given a seance or a reading or whatever it might be called to any person who was not a member of this association or society? A No.
Q Have you ever sent checks received from people who became members to the Virginia office? A Yes, I did.
Q You have? A Yes.
Q Is that the practice and usage? A Yes.
Q Of Mr. Cayce, to send all checks received from applicants to the Virginia office? A Yes, immediately.
CROSS EXAMINATION BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q This application that you say was signed by the policewoman, what did you do with the application after you received it back from her? A I left it laying on the desk and that was before we went into the reading.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Did you ever tell Mr. Cayce that this lady hadn’t signed the application blank?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that on the ground that it is leading.
THE COURT: That is leading.
Q Was there anything said or done in your presence to lead Mr. Cayce to believe that this woman had not become a member of the Association? A No.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q Do you know a Mrs. Vanderlusen? A No.
Q Do you know whether she is a member of your Association?
MR. RYAN: That is not within the issues.
THE COURT: Sustained.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I can introduce these letters into evidence.
THE COURT: Sustained.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I can introduce them.
THE COURT: If I let you.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I will offer them in evidence.
THE COURT: You may do that. They will not be accepted.
MR. RYAN: It is improper at this time.
Q I show you these letters. Were these letters in your office when the police officer came in?
MR. RYAN: I object to that.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q Was there a Mr. Standard living in Columbus, Ohio that belonged to your association?
MR. RYAN: I object to that.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q Was there a Miss White a member of your Association?
MR. RYAN: The same objection.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q Do you know if any of these people had readings? A I don’t know.
MR. RYAN: Don’t answer.
THE COURT: Don’t answer when your counsel objects.
MR. RYAN: I move to strike out the answer
THE COURT: Strike it out.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is all.
GERTRUDE ADAMS CAYCE, a defendant, called as a witness in her own behalf, having been first duly sworn, testified as follows.
BY THE COURT:
Q What is your name? A Gertrude Adams [Evans] Cayce.
Q Where do you live? A Virginia Beach, Va.
DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. RYAN:
Q Did you ever see this lady?
THE COURT: Indicating who?
Q Mrs. Gorman? A Yes sir.
Q Did you have a conversation with her at the Victoria Hotel? A Yes sir.
Q Will you tell the Court what she said to you and what you said to her? A She came in to get a reading.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is not responsive and I object to the answer.
THE COURT: I think if you will let me ask her a couple of questions, I know what I want.
MR. RYAN: Very well.
BY THE COURT:
Q Did you see this Policewoman Conwell sign an application for this Association? A Yes sir.
Q You saw it signed? A Yes sir.
THE COURT: What else?
BY MR. RYAN:
Q Did you have a conversation with this lady about the Association of Virginia Beach?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to that on the ground that it is leading.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q What else was said between you and this policewoman? A I told her, she didn’t want to sign the application and I only told her she would have to sign the application if she got a reading.
BY THE COURT:
Q And she did sign it before she got a reading; before your husband gave her the reading, she signed the application? A Yes, before he gave the reading, she signed the application.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q And did you have a conversation with her about the Association? A I told her that she would have to become a member of the Association in order to get a reading, by signing the application.
MR. RYAN: That is all.
CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q Where were you when the policewomen came in, in which of the three rooms of the apartment? A I was in the reception room.
Q Is that the room Miss Davis was in? A No.
Q Which room was Miss Davis in? A She was in the office.
Q Isn’t that - A The room that we use for the office.
Q Isn’t that the room the application is made out in, in the office? A Yes sir.
Q You were not in the office? A I was.
Q When did you come in the office? A I followed them in.
Q Did you stand up while Miss Davis was typewriting this application? A Yes sir.
Q Did you see her take it out of the machine? A Yes sir.
Q You say you saw the policewoman sign it? A Yes sir.
Q Didn’t you hear her object to signing it? A Yes sir.
Q You heard her say she would not sign it until after she found out how the reading would come along? A I did not.
Q What did you see Miss Davis do with the application after it was signed? A She asked if she might read it before she signed it.
Q Did the policewoman hand it back to Miss Davis? A She sat down at the desk and read it and signed it.
Q And then what happened to it then? A It was laying on the desk. That’s the last I saw.
Q When? A After she signed it.
Q Where did you go then? A I went into the other room.
Q Did Miss Davis go into the other room? A We all went into the other room.
Q All at the same time? A Well, we followed one another in.
THE COURT: Isn’t that enough? THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: We have to put a little time on it.
THE COURT: We have put an hour and a half.
MR. RYAN: I have documentary proof of the corporation. I don’t think it will influence you one way or the other. It will only clog up the record.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is all.
THE COURT: I want to ask the Defendant Cayce one question.
EDGAR CAYCE, a defendant, called as a witness in his own behalf, having been first duly sworn, testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION BY THE COURT:
Q What is your name? A Edgar Cayce.
Q Where do you live? A Virginia Beach, Va.
Q Did you, before you laid on the bed, to go into the alleged trance or trance, to answer the questions, propounded to you by the policewoman, Miss Conwell, were you informed by anyone that she was not a member of the Association?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to the question on the ground that it is leading.
THE COURT: I am asking the question.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I object to it.
THE COURT: I want to know the picture here.
A My wife -
Q In other words, did you assume, I will make it plainer to you - A I can answer.
Q Did you assume - A I was told she was a member.
Q You were told before you went into the so-called trance? A I was.
Q Who told you? A My wife and my secretary.
THE COURT: That is all.
MR. RYAN: That is all.
CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY
Q Who told you first, your wife or secretary?
THE COURT: What difference does that make?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: Do you want to object?
THE COURT: Don’t argue.
Q Who told you first, your wife or secretary?
THE COURT: This seems to be a bitter case.
A My wife.
Q Was the secretary standing beside her at the time? A The secretary was almost right behind her.
Q And your secretary came right along after your wife and said the same thing over again? A When I asked my wife if she was a member and she said yes, Miss Davis bowed her head, “Yes.”
Q She bowed her head? A Yes.
Q That is how you knew she had signed an application? A Yes.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That is all.
MR. RYAN: That is all.
BY THE COURT:
Q Do you get a salary from the Corporation or the Society? A Yes sir.
Q And all monies that come into your office, wherever you are, for these reading, you order those transmitted to the treasurer of the Association? A Yes sir.
Q You don’t put any of those in the personal bank account? A No sir.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q Do you predict the future, as to what is going to happen?
BY THE COURT:
Q You claim that you are a psychic? A No sir, I make no claims whatever. May I tell my story?
Q Yes? I would like to hear it. A For thirty-one years I have been called or told that I was a psychic. It first began as a child. I didn’t know what it was. When many people, who had asked me to do things for them, asked for advice and counsel, after it had gone on for years, it was investigated by individuals.
Q And then the company was formed? A This company was formed to study the work.
Q And they pay you a salary? A They pay me a salary.
Q Do you go into a trance? A I do not know. I am unconscious.
Q You are unconscious? A Unconscious. It has been called by some scientists, it has been investigated, it has been called, some called it hypnotic influence, some call it a trance.
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY:
Q In other words, when you lay on the bed you go off into a sort of unconscious state? A I am unconscious.
Q Now, these unconscious intervals, are they generally of the same duration? A Something near the same duration? They are at different times -
Q Do you know what you are doing and saying when you are in this alleged trance? A No sir.
Q You haven’t the least idea? A No sir.
Q You don’t know whether or not you are predicting as to the future? A No sir.
MR. RYAN: That is a little far-fetched.
THE COURT: We will take it for what it is worth. Are you all through?
MR. RYAN: I am through.
THE COURT: Both of you?
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I am through.
MR. RYAN: He is through.
THE COURT: Step down. Put this on the record. After seeing the People’s witnesses and the three defendants and their witness, on the stand, and observing their manner of testifying, and after reading the exhibits in the case, I find as a fact that Mr. Cayce and his co-defendants were not pretending to tell fortunes and that to hold these defendants guilty of violation of Sec. 899 of the Code of Criminal Procedure, Sub-division 3, would be an interference with the belief, practices or usages of an incorporated ecclesiastical governing body, or the duly licensed teachers thereof, and they are discharged.
MR. RYAN: Can we have our papers back? THE COURT: I have nothing to do with the papers.
R2. 11/18/31 Tom Sugrue’s letter to Edgar Cayce:
My dear Mr. Cayce:
I am sending you under separate cover copies of the Daily News, the American, the Times, and the Herald-Tribune. I merely sent the sheets containing the story, as you are not interested in anything else, and it would have required a truck to cart away all the tons of paper making up the entire newspapers. As I feared the city editor was not much enthused after the case had been settled. His first idea was a half or three quarters of a column. I talked him into a column, wrote a column and a half, and had a column and a fifth printed. Lucille [Kahn] called me to express her thanks for the story, and called me again this morning to quote Brisbane’s so-called witty remarks about the case. I’m putting Brisbane’s column in this letter [See under 294-1 Reports].
I hope your trip home was uneventful and pleasant, and that you have now forgotten all those unpleasant days here when the case was going from one adjournment to another.
I’ve never been happier than when the judge made his decision. I consider it a personal triumph for you and another for the work and the people - like myself - who believe in it and intend to see it perpetuated and disseminated amongst the peoples. If you get any requests for articles in the thousands of letters that should come to you as a result of this - let me know. I think there is an opportunity for the right sort of publicity - now that you have been “legalized” by the courts.
You’ll notice that all but the Tribune had a note of bias and prejudice against you. That makes our piece all the better, and I’m only sorry it couldn’t have been two or three columns, starting on the front page. It wasn’t the break for me I expected, but it was the break for you I wanted and prayed for - so that’s all right.
I’ll write you at length later, and watch the papers for any more comments. Please give my love to everyone, and when you have a chance to slip out from under the deluge of people and letters that will naturally follow this affair - just let me know how you are and what’s going on.
Always - [Signed] Tom
[GD’s note: See 254-60 Reports for further letters between EC and Tom in re the New York arrest, the after effects on EC and the A.R.E., etc.]
R3. 11/21/31 Letter from EC to Mrs. [264]: ”…Perhaps you have heard just enough about our New York trouble to get you worried… Everything came out alright, of course - and we think it was for the best or it wouldn’t have happened.
“There are so many horrid details that I don’t even like to discuss, much less write - but we’ll tell you all about it when we see you, which I hope will be soon…”
R4. GD’s note: See Nov. 1931 newspaper clippings under Source File Key #294.
Background
Background
B1. 11/1/31 Miss [350]‘s warning re. unvouched for strangers.
B2. 11/7/31 EC, GC, and GD were arrested on the charge of fortune telling, immediately following reading No. 3871-1, obtained by a policewoman under an assumed name.
B3. 11/9/31 EC’s wire to HLC, % Library, Atlantic Univ., Va. Beach, Va:
SEE THAT PARSONS BRINGS MINUTE BOOK CHARTER CERTIFICATE ALL DATA AND IS HERE BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. SEE MOTHER’S LETTER.
B4. 11/9/31 HLC’s letter:
Dear Family:
The morning papers explain your delay in detail. I entirely forgive you making me wait three hours at the train the other morning. Please let me know if you are comfortable in the present surroundings. I do hope they gave you a nice cell with plenty of light, running water and whatnot. So sorry I can’t be present at the trial. O, you can just imagine my horror, consternation and mental turmoil when they called (Mrs. Barrett) to tell me that the papers stated that Mr. and Mrs. Edgar Cayce had been arrested in New York and that the prisoners were doing as well as could be expected. Wasn’t it just too bad that the judge got the pictures before the papers did or did the N.Y. ones carry them? Be sure and save me all the printed details in the papers there. It is quite thrilling to have parents in the papers, especially in jail. Anyway it is one good way to find out how many friends you have. And remember we all are dying to hear the details if they ever turn you loose. You are certainly having some experiences.
Seriously, you know how I feel and am especially interested in knowing whether you are going to quiet it as much as possible or spread it. Either is bad. Mr. Lawrence just called and asked for your address. Says he just had a fight almost over someone laughing at it. Anything he can do just let him know. Mrs. Barrett said just too bad but we will all be pulling for you. Meeting tonight and we will help a bit maybe. There have many people been treated this way before you know from 10,500 B.C. to now anyway and I am sure even before that. The world is not kind to people who are different. Keep smiling and remember “Father forgive them they know not what they do”.
Mr. Parsons just called and asked for a copy of the charter. Gray is taking it into him in just a little while. We are making a copy to keep. People are wondering of course where it started.
Eckin went to Allen Miller’s party Sat. night and had a fine time. He is getting along fine with his lessons.
Muddie what are you going to wear to the trial? Kiss each other for me and don’t forget we are all pulling for you. Only good can come from any reaction against anything that is essentially good. Let us hear how things are going. Do be careful and don’t get caught for contempt of court. Muddie be nice to the judge. I have a funny little feeling that tells me that this is the best thing that has happened for a long time. It will bring cooperation if anything will.
Love and kisses from us all.
[Signed] H. L. Cayce
P.S. Tell Gladys not to forget to smile sweetly at Mr. Brandt.
P.P.S. Mr. Shroyer tells me that the Richmond Times carries a nice article. They are playing up the late trusteeship to hurt the school. I’ll save all printed matter.
B5. 11/10/31 EC’s wire to HLC: SEND IMMEDIATELY AFFIDAVIT BOOK MIDDLE LONG FILE BEHIND GLADYS’ DESK.
B6. 11/10/31 Wire from Norfolk, Virginia A.R.E. members of SFG Group #1:
WESTERN UNION
FHB16 69 NL 34 EXTRA=NORFOLK VIR 9
EDGAR CAYCE=
VICTORIA HOTEL 7 AVE & 51 ST NEWYORK NY=
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE IN NEWYORK SO WE COULD APPEAR IN COURT AND TELL THE JUDGE WHAT BENEFITS YOUR READINGS HAVE BEEN TO A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THIS SECTION OF THE COUNTRY=
H H JONES C A BARRETT ESTHER WYNNE C W ROSBOROUGH M L ROSBOROUGH MILDRED DAVIS EDITH M EDMONDS FLORENCE K EDMONDS FRANCES Y MORROW HELEN STOREY MARVIN BARRETT FANNIE FREEMAN MARY L BLACK HANNAH C MILLER.
B7. 11/10/31 Letter from MD to Mrs. [264]: ”…I sent you a night message last night in regard to Mr. Cayce being delayed in New York this week. Perhaps you have read the papers and already know what is holding them up. They are to have a closed trial on Thurs. afternoon. Mr. Max Hammerling is defending them, also a lawyer from Norfolk. Will you please pray that everything will come out all right and that they will soon be safely back with us? If you get this in time, there is to be a special meditation at 2 o’clock in which we should like all our friends to join. We have been very excited, but we now feel that everything is for the best. Hugh Lynn talked to his mother and father last evening; and they said there was nothing to worry about…”
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Summary
This reading provides guidance and reassurance to Edgar Cayce, Gertrude Cayce, and Gladys Davis regarding their arrest for fortune telling in New York City, advising on legal strategy, publicity, and spiritual trust, followed by a full transcript of the court proceedings where they were discharged.
People: W. B. Cravis, Samuel Levy, Bertha M. Conwell, Anna K. McNamara, King David, James M. Fitzsimmons, M. N. Hammerling, Thomas J. Ryan, Francis J. Erwin, Charles Brandt, Thomas Sugrue, Edgar Cayce, Hugh Lynn Cayce, Mrs. Barrett, Mr. Lawrence, Mr. Parsons, Mr. Shroyer, H. H. Jones, C. A. Barrett, Esther Wynne, C. W. Rosborough, M. L. Rosborough, Mildred Davis, Edith M. Edmonds, Florence K. Edmonds, Frances Y. Morrow, Helen Storey, Marvin Barrett, Fannie Freeman, Mary L. Black, Hannah C. Miller, MD, Mrs. [264], Miss [350], HLC, Lucille Kahn, Brisbane, Dr. Berger, Mrs. Vanderlusen, Mr. Standard, Miss White, Bertha Gorman, Detective Horrance, J. I. Zinman
Places: New York City, Hotel Victoria, Virginia Beach, Wilmington, Delaware, Norfolk, Virginia, Ohio, Richmond, Virginia
Concepts: psychic research, fortune telling accusation, legal defense, spiritual truth, Prayer, divine guidance
Referenced readings: 3871-1, 294-1, 254-60
Mentioned Entities
Gladys Davis, Gertrude Cayce, A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment), New York City, Virginia Beach, Purpose, David Kahn, King David, Photography (Atlantean), Trial of Jesus, Law of Moses, Ohio, Resurrection Appearances, Thomas Sugrue, Atlantic Ocean, Flood (Noachian), Hugh Lynn Cayce, Ideal, Meditation, Search for God Study Groups
Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 254-59, ReadingID 1197.