TEXT OF READING 2897-1 M 33 (Musical Conductor, Band Leader,
Text
Date: 12/15/1929 Sex: M Age: 33 ReadingID: 10145
Pianist, Catholic Background) This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his office, 115 West 35th Street, Virginia Beach, Va., this 15th day of December, 1929, in accordance with request made by self - [2897], through Mr. [900].
[Edgar Cayce; Mrs. Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. [2897], Dr. Wm. M. Brown, [900], and Thos. House.]
Born December 30, 1895, about 4 A. M., in Brooklyn, N.Y. Time of Reading 5:35 P. M. Eastern Standard Time. New York City. (Life Reading Suggestion)
-
EC: We have the entity and those relations with the universe and universal forces, as are latent and exhibited in the present entity.
-
In entering, astrologically, we find the entity coming under the influence of Venus, Mercury, Uranus, and Jupiter, with those influences as come from the astrological combinations in the earth. In entering, irrespective of the will’s application, some we find have been changed, astrologically - yet these influences, as are seen, are heritages to the entity in the various experiences through which the entity may pass in THIS present experience.
-
Then, astrologically, we find:
-
One, under the influence in Jupiter - brings the love of the beautiful, the love of symmetrical lines, the love of nature, and of the representations of nature.
-
In that in the Uranian, we find these accentuated in many varying effects.
-
In that in Mercury, we find in those of the mental developments - especially into those of the intricacies of the occult and of the mystic forces; and, as seen manifested in each, in the application of the abilities in the entity, these become accentuated especially in the expression OF self when it comes to manifesting that which gives expression, either to the mystery, the mysterious, the occult, or to that in Jupiter - as manifests in the bigness of purpose, of intent, of those elements that have to do with the greetings in either.
-
In the application of these, as are manifested, as respecting will’s forces in the present experience - these, we find, expressing themselves in creative energy, as related to the beauties in nature, in life, IN experience, IN the various effects as may be created by either of the manners as comes through love, as an ennobling factor, or one that would express hate, contempt, disregard, indecision, and wonderment, in the various effects as are created by each.
-
One then, that we find, with the ability to sway many, in the application of self as respecting influences in their daily life - whether related to the emotions of the mental individual or related to the emotions of the body.
-
One that finds in the expression of rhythm that which gives rise to the greater emotions in body, whether of body adornment, of body application, or of mental intuitive forces as related to the effects of creative activities in the individual’s application TOWARDS those OF mental abilities in self.
-
One, then, that - applying self in these directions - finds that which, in attempting to find its expression, becomes abhorrent to those elements that would confine activities - whether of mental, of body, of soul, or of relations as would confine in any manner.
-
One hating a lie.
-
One depreciating those who would appear in one respect, to be or act in one manner, yet in another way act in a different manner.
-
One making friends easy. One who loses friends just as easy. One who makes friendships of long duration.
-
One who does not USE friendships as an act of stepping stones, or as used in relationships to use one’s position, place, abilities. One dependent upon self. One dependent upon self’s abilities.
-
One that has those INNATE influences in the occult forces IN nature, IN the human element that goes to make up the mental forces of individuals, as to be able to USE same in the CORRECT or INCORRECT direction. These governed much by that as is often called temperamental in the individual, and in the individual’s application of self towards others. In this oftentimes making enemies that are subtle in their reactions, yet fearful of the entity as to THAT entity’s abilities.
-
As in the influences as are seen in this present experience, from those of the experiences in the earth’s plane - in these, as we find:
-
In the one before this we find in that of Antonio D’la Vinci [?], in that period when there was both music, song, painting, and the like, in the entity’s endeavors, and the entity brought to self in that experience much of that in the period that brought consternation, through the gratification of selfish desires, and to the aggrandizement of selfish interests, BELITTLING the body through that experience to the satisfying of the elements that act through the imaginative forces of selfish interests; bringing into the experience of the entity those of dissatisfying influences, ending in the manner - as was seen - in self’s own destruction. Bringing then, as it does in the present, those of the influences that bring dissatisfaction at times with individuals, and with those influences that would bind in any manner, as relating to BOUND relationships with individuals; yet GAINING in the experience IN the ability to apply self in a PHYSICAL manner as to any of the arts. As the entity then called the great artist, so today he may be called - in this experience - the artist in more than one direction.
-
In the one before this we find in that period when there were wars in the land now known as Greece, and during that period of the invasion - when those of that land went into the western portion of now Mesopotamia. The entity then the assistant to the leader in that period, when there were builded in the peoples that hardiness of purpose as brought forth those as of Polyclini [?], and of those that gave counsel, law, and abiding hope in the peoples coming under a rule. Then in the name Polycahp. In that experience the entity gained and lost, through that period. Gaining in the counsel as was given as respecting the return of the peoples to their native land, also in the counsel as to being guided under one head; yet losing in reducing that very establish- ment OF order TO chaos in the destroying of a portion of the temple as reared to that part of the work accomplished. In the present experience we find that of beauty, that of mystery, that in nature, that as abideth in truth - as a tenet INNATE and expressed in the present experience of the entity, and that detesting of him who would make or believe a lie.
-
In the one before this we find in that land now known as Egypt. The entity in that period when there were dissensions in that as would be commonly called in this period as church and state. The entity then with the young ruler of the land that was set in charge of, or being pitted against the natives. The entity, with the young ruler, brought order out of chaos - of the destructive influence brought on by the priest; aiding in the capacity of the bodyguard - NOT as a guard, but rather as the counsellor in person, the companion of and the aid to those that set aright those connections between that one that became the scribe and counsellor of the natives, and those of that one that had brought the destructive influences in the temple. Setting, then, the music in the temple - leading in the temple worship, and gained for self and for the peoples whom the entity served MUCH in that set IN music. Hence the appeals in the present to those especially of oriental, Egyptian, or especially of mysterious music. One that brings from strings and music of the stringed instrument those especially of the weird, bringing that of the closest understanding to the entity. Then in the name Abenmi. In the present, MANY of these will find that the entity may aid in many directions as have YET NOT been touched.
-
In the one before this we find in that land now known as the Atlantean, or in Poseida, and in the city then of Achaei [?] the entity ruled in pomp, power, and in the understanding of the mysteries of the application of that often termed the night side of life, or in the applying of the universal forces as understood in that period. The ENTITY used them for aid. Many of the subjects (and [this was] the overthrowing of the entity) used them in the destructive influences. The entity ruled with the will; NOT by firm hand, not by destructive influences, but rather as one that would aid in counsel, aid in the understanding, aid in the relationships of one to another. Gaining throughout the experience, and the entity in the present influence finds those of this period often finding that which produces an unrest, a seeking for that not wholly grasped; yet knowing it (that sought) is JUST beyond.
-
In the abilities of the entity in the present - these, we find, lie in that of the creative, of that as will bring the better understanding of the emotions of the body physical as related to the emotions of the body mental, and expressed in that line of rhythm in music, or in word, or in understanding. These, and in these lines, and in assisting others to understand these - for the entity may become either the writer, the musician, the painter, or the one accomplished in either of these.
-
In the application of self as relating to that as is seen in the experiences, that the satisfaction of self’s expression in that which aids - even as is seen through the experience in Achaei [?], or as that seen in that as the painter and the musician in the last, that the comparison in the aggrandizement of selfish interests rather brings consternation - but in the satisfying of that intent that brings peace, harmony, understanding, brings that CONTENTMENT that is satisfying to self’s INNER emotions.
-
Ready for questions.
-
(Q) What will be the result of the contract with […]? When will it be broken? (A) In ‘33. The result, as will be seen, will conflict with some of the aspirations of the body-physical. Of the body-MENTAL, this will NOT conflict - save in that the entity allows self to be submerged by the destructive influences brought by little unkind acts and words; yet be bigger than either.
-
(Q) What will be the result of this new cycle I am coming into? Will I advance or not? (A) Understanding the relationships in building itself back to that position in which the individual acquired, which the entity gained, which the entity merited - Merit that which brings TO self the understanding of the cycle as BRINGS the change, and these are contentment of soul and body.
-
(Q) Should the entity remain at the … Hotel? (A) For the time being - but the change will come in April of ‘30.
-
(Q) What connection did the entity have to some of us in the Egyptian period? (A) As given, with those of him in rule and him as counselled, bringing through the applications of self’s understanding - the relationships that brought the music in the temple. Temple music and mystery music, and mystery writing, [See 2897-2, Par. 4-A] may bring the entity MONEYS, power, position - used ARIGHT. We are through.
Copy to Self ” ” Ass’n office ” ” Datastician ” ” Hugh Lynn Cayce
Reports
Reports & Follow-up
R1. 2/21/30 See 903-13, Par. 17-A indicating that there must be some individual development in order for [2897] to be of assistance to the EC work.
R2. 2/26/30 [2897]‘s letter: ”…At the suggestion of Mr. David Kahn I am writing to you and enclosing some questions. I would like to be able to arrange a reading with you, if it is possible. I trust you will be able to help me. Thank you for your kind interest…”
R3. 3/17/30 He obtained 2897-2, his second Life reading.
R4. 5/14/30 [2897] referred Mrs. [5502] for 5502-1, a Physical reading.
R5. 5/3/31 He obtained Check reading 2897-3, Par. 11-A indicating that Antonio and Leonardo were one and the same in the Vinci incarnation.
R6. 5/4/31 His friend, Mrs. [5502], obtained 5502-2, Par. 17-A 18-A and in re how she could help [2897] in his work and success, also in re their past associations when he was Vinci.
R7. 8/14/31 His reading 2897-4 warned against dabbling in spirit communication; see subsequent notations thereto.
R8. 12/13/38 Mr. [815] wrote that Mr. [2897] and Dr. [438] had first referred him to Edgar Cayce.
R9. 9/19/40 A copy of Mr. [2897]‘s Life reading was sent to him via request of Dr. [438].
R10. 5/11/42 [2897] referred Mr. [2747] for a reading, indicating his own interest in astrology.
R11. 6/20/42 [2897] said as soon as his book on astrology came out he would send Edgar Cayce a copy of it.
R12. 6/26/42 [2897] wrote: ”…I’m including my entire Life reading in the book, tying it with reincarnation…”
R13. 10/5/42 [2897] wrote HLC that he would be glad to do Edgar Cayce’s chart.
R14. 1944 [2897]‘s book, WHAT’S AHEAD? A MUSICIAN’S PROPHECIES OF WORLD EVENTS, was published.
R15. 1/48 Gina Cerminara sent Mr. [2897] a copy of 2897-3 to clarify the identity of Vinci.
R16. In 1961 [2897] published a book on numerology, having in 1960 come out with another book.
R17. 7/75 Dr. Harold J. Reilly’s book, THE EDGAR CAYCE HANDBOOK FOR HEALTH THROUGH DRUGLESS THERAPY, p. 17, tells of his meeting [2897] in 1931 at the home of Mrs. Clara Belle Walsh. Mrs. Walsh announced to the crowd that one of her proteges [[2897], calling him by name] was the reincarnation of (according to a Cayce Life reading) Leonardo DA Vinci.
R18. 9/22/75 See [2897]‘s death notice, as Vincent Lopez, below.
R19. GD’s note: He never minded people knowing about his Life reading and even published it himself. Therefore, it is fitting to include it here so that the entire case can be studied in context with his life as Vincent Lopez.
R20. 9/22/75 (Ledger-Star) Obituary of Vincent Lopez:
Vincent Lopez dies; led bands 58 years
MIAMI (AP) - Band leader Vincent Lopez, who began remote radio broadcasts of orchestras in the 1920s and whose bands included some of the nation’s top musicians for 58 years, is dead at 80.
Lopez died Saturday in a Miami nursing home. Doctors said he suffered a stroke four weeks ago, but death was caused by liver and pancreas ailments.
Lopez was noted for his abilities on the piano, which he learned to play from his father, a onetime naval bandmaster. Lopez originally was headed for a clerical vocation, but dropped out of a monastery at age 15 and got a job playing piano in a Brooklyn saloon.
He started as a bandleader in 1916 at the Pekin Restaurant on Broadway when the regular leader failed to show up.
In 1921, he was hired to conduct and play at the old Pennsyl- vania Hotel. That same year, he established a radio first with a live performance in the studio of WJZ and later made the first radio remote music pickup.
His theme song was “Nola,” and his trademark opening for every radio broadcast was “Hello everybody, Lopez speaking.”
Lopez’ other successes included performances at the London Hippodrome, Casa Lopez in New York, the St. Regis roof, and the Taft Hotel.
Although he suffered a stroke in 1966 that left him partially paralyzed, Lopez continued to play band engagements in New York City and Miami until May of this year.
Among the top musicians who at one time played for him were Tommy Dorsey and Xavier Cougat. Lopez also was instrumental in aiding the careers of Glenn Miller, Artie Shaw and singer Abby Lane.
A sideline was astrology and numerology. He credited numerology with important decisions that affected two vocalists who sang for his band - Betty Darling and Edna Mae Burbin, whom he renamed Betty Hutton and Deanna Durbin.
He published a book titled “Numerology” in 1961.
Services are scheduled at 11 a.m. Tuesday at the Holy Family Catholic Church. Burial will be at Southern Memorial Park.
R21. 9/8/77 Report from A.R.E. member, Neils Troost:
“Reading 2897-1, a Life reading, states [2897], who is a musician and conductor of orchestras in this life and was 33 years of age at the time (2897-1 was given December 16, 1929) to be a reincarnation of Antonio d’la Vinci. Question 5 in 2897-3 amplifies the name to Antonio Leonardo di (da?) Vinci.
“A supplement to the readings in 2897-1 [See Par. R23, R24 below] assumes that the entity therefore was a reincarnation of the famous Leonardo da Vinci, painter (of inter alia the Mona Lisa), sculptor, inventor, engineer, etc., who was born in 1452 and died ‘full of years and honour’ in 1519. His remains are buried in a chapel in the castle of Amboise - one of the well known ‘chabeaux’ in France, and his crypt is a well known tourist attraction.
“Going through the [2897] readings, it seems obvious that entity, [2897], has none of the attributes, gifts or qualities of the famous Leonardo, i.e. math, drawing, etc., but exhibits other skills, i.e. music which the famous Leonardo never possessed. As far as is known the latter never composed music, led an orchestra, or seriously played a musical instrument in his life and it is highly improbable that he would reincarnate as one almost exclusively devoted to music as [2897] is. He also most certainly did not commit suicide as the reading, 2897-1, says [2897] did in his life as Leonardo.
“Leonardo (di or da) Vinci is by no means an uncommon name in Italy. There must have been thousands of this appelation over the last 200 years and some of the bearers of it have been men of note, ability and distinction. Musical dictionaries list one Leonardo (di) Vinci who was born in 1690, lived in Venice, who was a prolific composer and performer of note; and died in 1730 of poison - probably self-administered.
“This fits very well with the entity [2897] in the Cayce readings and it is therefore fairly certain that the entity [2897] is not the famous Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519, but a reincarnation of Leonardo Vinci the composer, 1690-1730.”
R22. 10/6/77 GD’s note: After reading Dr. Neils Troost’s 9/8/77 report, [Par. R21 above], I am sure he is right; that the entity [2897] is NOT the famous Leonardo DA Vinci, 1452-1519, but a reincarnation of Leonardo Vinci, the composer, 1690-1730.
R23. University Musical Encyclopedia, Volume II, p. 706, Copyright 1910 by the University Society, Inc.:
Vinci (Leonardo) composed “Ilfigenia in Tauride,” Venice, 1725, and in all 26 operas, two ortorios, and much church music; pupil of Pergolesi, Porpora, and Greco. B. 1690, Strongoli, Naples; poisoned 1732.
R24. Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th Edition, p. 92. Copyright 1911 by The Encyclopedia Britannica Co.:
Vinci, Leonardo (1690-1730), Italian musical composer, was born at Strongoli in Calabria in 1690 and educated at Naples under Gaetano Greco in the Conservatorio dei Poveri di Gesu Cristo. He became known first by his comic operas in Neapolitan dialect in 1719; he also composed many serious operas. He was received into the Congregation of the Rosary at Formiello in 1728 and and died by poisoning in 1730, not 1732, as is generally stated. His comic operas, of which Le Zite ‘u Galera (1722) is the best, are full of life and spirit; in his serious operas, of which Didone Abbandonata (Rome, 1728) and Artaserse (Rome, 1730) are the most notable, have an incisive vigour and directness of dramatic expression deservedly praised by Burney. The well-known air “Vo solcando,” from Artaserse, is a good example of his style.
Background
Background
B1. 12/5/29 [900]‘s letter to EC: ”…[2897] paid me a visit in the office here…he also asked if you would be good enough to give him a Life Reading… Peculiarly enough, his most detrimental characteristic, and the thing that seems to have taken him from off the top of the musical profession, seems to be his show of conceit, yet, he told me that this was the veneer he put on in order to hide from people his actual inward shyness. His ideas run fundamentally along the lines of reincarnation, and while somewhat conglomerated in his own purpose, nevertheless, he believes in it, and has some rather confused ideas as to what it means to him in his life…”
B2. 12/15/29 GD’s note: [2897] visited EC and was present for his Life Reading, being referred by Mr. [900]. I remember being impressed with meeting him, since he was quite well known as a band leader and we had heard him on radio.
Generated research index
Index (LLM-extracted)
Summary
A life reading for a 33-year-old musical conductor and band leader, exploring his astrological influences, past lives (including as Leonardo Vinci), and his creative and occult abilities, with guidance on career and personal development.
People: Mr. 900, Dr. Wm. M. Brown, Thos. House, Mr. David Kahn, Mrs. 5502, Mr. 815, Dr. 438, Mr. 2747, Hugh Lynn Cayce, Gina Cerminara, Dr. Harold J. Reilly, Mrs. Clara Belle Walsh, Vincent Lopez, Neils Troost, Antonio D’la Vinci, Polycahp, Abenmi, Leonardo Vinci
Places: Brooklyn, New York City, Virginia Beach, Greece, Mesopotamia, Egypt, Atlantis, Poseida, Achaei, Florida, England, Venice, Naples, Strongoli, Rome
Concepts: Astrology, Reincarnation, past-life in Egypt, past-life in Atlantis, past-life in Greece, past-life as Leonardo Vinci, occult forces, creative energy
Referenced readings: 2897-2, 2897-3, 2897-4, 903-13, 5502-1, 5502-2
Mentioned Entities
Entity (Cayce Term), Reincarnation, Temple of Solomon, Astrology, Egypt, Numerology, Florida, Purpose, Free Will, Gina Cerminara, Initiation, New York City, Reincarnation of Jesus’s Circle, Rome, Soul, Well Shaft (Pyramid), A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment), Atlantis, Book of Job, David Kahn
Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 2897-1, ReadingID 10145.