Reading 464-32

TEXT OF READING 464-32 F 65 (Housewife, Protestant)

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Date: 2/26/1941 Sex: F Age: 65 ReadingID: 3413

This Psychic Reading given by Edgar Cayce at his home on Arctic Crescent, Virginia Beach, Va., this 26th day of February, 1941, in accordance with request made by the self - Mrs. [464], Associate Member of the Ass”n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.

[Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno.]

Born December 14, 1875, [bet. 2:00 & 4:00 A. M.] in Woodstock, Ontario, Canada. Time of Reading 10:15 to 10:50 A. M. Eastern Standard Time. …, Ohio.

1. GC: You will give the relation of this entity and the universe, and the universal forces; giving the conditions which are as personalities, latent and exhibited in the present life; also the former appearances in the earth plane, giving time, place and the name, and that in each life which built or retarded the development for the entity; giving the abilities of the entity in the present, that to which it may attain, and how. You will answer the questions, as I ask them:

2. EC: Yes, we have the records here of that entity now known as or called [464].

3. In giving the interpretations of the records here, much might be said as respecting these as well as the whole of the entity’s experience through the material planes, also regarding the urges that arise from astrological aspects.

4. However, the astrological aspects are being gradually replaced by the urge of the more material aspect for the moment. The latent influence, though, is toward the spiritual.

5. These interpretations, then, are chosen with the desire and purpose that this be a helpful experience for the entity, enabling it to fulfil those purposes for which it entered this sojourn and to realize that life is a continuity; that only its relative relations change with the various aspects of an individual entity’s consciousness; that one grows. For, as in the present experience, the thoughts as a developing body in its tender years of material sojourn are not those of the mature individual. For, there are disappointments, urges of various natures latent and manifested by the reaction of the mental self as respecting circumstance.

6. Yet, there is a way, - and that as manifested through the mental self. For, the harmonic triune of body, mind and soul depends upon that coordination, that cooperation, of keeping each phase of the entity’s consciousness attuned to that the entity has chosen as its ideal. Also it depends upon how well in thought and in deed and in act the entity adheres to that ideal

7. When a composite view is taken of this entity’s record, with the astrological AND the manifested as well as other material manifestations in the material plane, - we find these as latent and manifested urges:

8. One that is very determined in mind as to having its own way, and usually accomplishes same - or else so alters the circumstance until no one else has his own!

9. One that is rather inclined to be called by others “curious” as respecting secret orders, cults, cisms [isms? schisms?] or the like. To know in self what is carried on under such conditions has oft caused the entity to pronounce judgments without considering the effect such might have upon others or upon self.

10. One that is especially inclined to be rather domineering as to conditions that surround the entity. And when the entity makes excursions or trips, or visits, the entity is inclined to change EVERYTHING to the better situations for others. And, though the entity may oft be very determined, there is a tenderness, a lightheartedness deep, latent within, that finds manifestation and makes for helpful forces in the experience of all who may come in contact with the entity.

11. Thus we may find these as the astrological aspects in the experience, latent and manifested; though know, as we have oft indicated, that no urge astrologically or from physical environment may exceed the urge of the entity’s WILL!

12. Thus we find there are the needs, the necessity for this entity - as every other, to know the ideal, the author of same; and in the ideal let it not be concerned so much with what others should do, but what self may do spiritually, mentally, physically, to make that ideal a practical experience day by day.

13. Astrologically, - Uranus, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter become the ruling forces.

14. Hence we find the extremes, whether in thought, in physical or mental relationships, become a part of the general as well as specific experiences of the entity in the present.

15. Venus brings an adaptability, a working with the hands, in design, in house, in home, in the things that make for greater conveniences and greater pleasures; and most of all greater appreciations in the experiences and relationships, and in the activities of the entity.

16. Thus, as we find with the Uranian, disappointments and discouragements have oft a greater effect upon the entity than upon many of those about the entity. These cause those extremes.

17. In Jupiter we find the benevolent forces. Thus the inclinations for the entity to improve the environs for everyone, wherever the entity may sojourn or even journey for a day, two days, a week. This love of travel also arises from this peculiar or unusual phase of this part of the entity’s consciousness. The likes and yet dislikes of changes. The desires and yet would keep from meeting others. These become the confusing forces in the experience of the entity at times.

18. As to the urges arising from the appearances in the earth, - not all may be indicated at once. Many the entity has passed - for this experience. Many the entity will find as a part of its experience in the present.

19. Before this the entity was in the land of the present nativity AND sojourn; for, during that we call here the Dearborn period, the entity journeyed from its present native land to those portions about what is now Toledo and the northernmost portions of Indiana and portions of Michigan.

20. For, the entity was a French-Indian; thus being of those activities that made special reference to relationships and associations with the home as well as with various groups and various individuals, - thus the associations with those groups about Fort Dearborn and the activities there.

21. While if determined according to the morals of the present day the experience was not beautiful, we find that so far as the activities, purposes, intents and hopes were concerned it brought to many the associations that were a helpful influence in the entity’s experience.

22. Thus those latent influences of the good conversationalist, the tendencies to improve surroundings in whatever environ the entity may be; though oft making those impressions as of such being a hardship, the latent hope of the entity is to be allowed to do same - as an expression of self-defense oft, or self-depreciation, - which should not be the expressions in the present.

23. The name then was Nancy Montrecency - or Montrecentrcy - for both names were used by the parents of the entity.

24. Before that the entity was in the French land during the early settlings there from the Roman activities, as well as the experiences of those from the Grecian land - which made for the entity a period of advancement.

25. These were those periods when there was the first establishing there of homes other than in caves, hills or the like. The entity was active in urging its associates towards activities for the preservation of the fireside, or the home; the groups and individuals becoming more in that attitude of seeking INDIVIDUAL companionships through the experience.

26. The entity gained from the united effort, though in the individual way or manner. In the present from those urges we find the desire for cleanliness about the home, about the specific rules and orders as would regulate activities of groups. Also there are the powers, or latent urges, for the knowledge of groups or individuals that bind themselves in secret societies, orders, or organizations. These urges arise from those experiences there.

27. The name then was Mardunde.

28. Before that the entity was in the Egyptian land during those trials and turmoils from the rebellious forces, and those activities which had produced same.

29. The entity was among those who sought for the return of the Priest to the place of direction, though of the Natives during that particular period when there were such FLUID activities of the Young King who had come into the land, as well as of the Atlanteans. The entity succeeded in making overtures to her own groups in such ways as to bring eventually into its own experience the authority over the own groups thereabout, which brought both good and bad influences; for the entity tended to take vengeance - because of its position - over those whom the entity felt had made hardships for the self.

30. Through the latter portion of the experience, though, the entity gained; then in the name Telkor.

31. As to the abilities of the entity in the present, then:

32. Study first thy own purposes. Know thy own ideals, spiritually, mentally, materially - that they are one, yet each in their own phase of experience must be met in their own way or manner.

33. Trust in that which is the fulfilling of that ideal, by self’s adherence to same.

34. Condemn not self nor others.

35. Find in the home, in the relationships with others, those opportunities for the helpful influences that are a part of thy experience.

36. Keep self from condemnation, or from condemning others.

37. Ready for questions.

38. We are through for the present.

Copy to Self ” ” Ass’n file

Reports

Reports & Follow-up

R1. See subsequent Reports.

R2. 3/3/41 “I rec’d the Life Rdg. and want to thank you so much for it and hope when I am feeling equal to it I can write a good account of it and myself too, but just at the present time the least said the better.”

R3. 4/30/41 “You’ll be wondering how things turned out after the rdgs. [464-31 and 464-32]… I put in a very tough winter and my nerves and heart have about finished me. If I get feeling a little better I get a shock and I am laid up again. One doesn’t thrive on misery and unhappiness.”

R4. 5/22/41 “I have something on my mind that greatly retards my chance of getting better. I would love to be able to unburden my soul to one who would understand and give me some good sound advice, for I am just floundering around alone in the mire of my own thoughts, right or wrong as the case may be. I feel that I am all wrong and at the same time I feel that I am justified in thinking of the situation as I do. I have made many mistakes to my sorrow, others have made more and don’t care who they hurt… No matter what I expect in life the opposite always happens. I still think that I should never have been born. I am no good to myself or anyone else, and how [Husband] would love to be free and getting married to someone else, the old jackass, but that is nothing new - he was talking about his 2nd wife 25 yrs. ago, only - contrary to all expectations - I failed to die to accommodate him. No, I have made no mistake - it is true, but that is the price any woman pays who is unfortunate enough to marry a lady’s man, and I have paid and how, and I still am paying, and I just get furious over it all. So many, many things that are all wrong. I hope the war soon ends. Satan is keeping himself busy these days. No one but the powers of hell could do what is being done these days. Man is merely a tool. One wonders what it is all about. Always something to tear the heart out of one.”

R5. 5/26/41 EC offered to let her confide in him, to help by giving his opinion, if she wanted him to.

R6. 6/5/41 “I hope all of your other friends who write to you are more cheerful than I am… I try to think myself out of it but it doesn’t seem to help any, for I am in this atmosphere of discord all the time. My family are kindness itself to me, even [Husband] who is the cause of all my trouble in the first place is kind enough, but he has been allowed to run wild for so long that he has lost all sense of the fitness of things, and I am shutting down on him and like the man who whips his son, it hurts him worse than it does the child. I might just as well let him go his own way, for he thinks he is o.k. anyway, so you see nothing can be done. I wish something nice would happen to think about besides horrors. I think I have had more than my share of hurts and disappointments. You have had cheerful letters from me in the past, and you know that I am not always grumbling and thinking of myself only… My blood pressure is way up, so I will stop. Thanks a lot for offering to help out, but there is nothing that can be done about it.”

R7. 6/9/41 EC’s letter: “You may be very sure you do not have all the troubles - there are many who pour out their troubles to me; yes, many a great deal more than you. Am glad to try and help, though realize I am a very poor stick to lean upon. At least I think I try, and I am persuaded that God counts the try for righteousness. Not as man counts, oh, no. Man’s ideas are oft far from God’s promises.

“Just hold on, and kindness will and does beget kindness - it will change all yet. I feel that is a divine law; it may appear to us as a long time in coming, yet in His own good time it will.”

R8. See subsequent correspondence preceding and following subsequent rdgs. which indicate that at 38 yrs. she had nervous breakdown when her husband fell in love with his first ‘other woman’.

R9. 7/11/43 “[Husband] is no company. He is so deaf he can’t hear anything. Conversation is out. How unfortunate…it is lonesome. I am alone so much… I went out to daughter [2144]‘s over the 4th - it is her birthday, and I read her Life Rdg. over again and again.

“I was disappointed in my Life Rdg. You said I was an Indian and I always kept the home fires burning. I told Mrs. Dillman Gladys (Mrs. Chas. W.) Dillman] that I may look like an Indian but I don’t feel like one. After all, we like to feel that we may have been someone worth while, but the rdg. certainly cut me down to ashes and bonfires, and took the conceit out of me. Who were you in a former time? I haven’t had the nerve to read mine over and over again. I am a poor writer - I guess I run true to form as an Indian.”

R10. 7/15/43 EC’s letter: “You would have to read all of my Life Rdg. [294-8] - I wasn’t anybody very important, and especially the time just before this, according to the information, I must have been a ne’er-do-well, one of those people who didn’t do anything but make a lot of trouble John Bainbridge, early America], but seemingly tried to make up for it in the end.” [GD’s note: EC and Mrs. [464] must have known one another when she was an Indian during the Ft. Dearborn days.]

Background

Background

B1. See previous Physical Rdgs. and revealing correspondence, as to her character, etc.

B2. 7/20/26 “I am writing for my Life Rdg. but if there is nothing for me but more poverty, more sorrows, and many more disappointments, I don’t want to know about it.”

B3. 7/26/26 EC’s ltr.: “You may expect both the good and bad to be told, and I feel very sure you’re not hopeless, for at least your sense of humor is a grace that would bring many redeeming qualities to anyone.”

B4. 7/29/26 “Can you imagine anyone having any luck with a name like mine [Abigail Emerancy - three syllable Scottish last name]? Why, it made me puny from the very start. I may be a sinful woman, but I have never forgiven the donor of that name, and I never will. It dates back three generations but when it hit on me I put a period after it…no manner of persuasion could ever make me alter my decision. No child with my consent would ever suffer the teasing and the making fun of that I have with that name. I never answer to it unless someone like Mr. Cayce demands it, and I almost failed to get my Physical Rdg. on account of it. I wrote it down, shuddered, sealed the letter quickly and sent it, before I had time to change my mind.”

B5. 3/8/40 She requested Life Rdg. for daughter, Miss [2144]. “I always wanted a Life Rdg. too, but the physical side needed so much attention that I gave way to that.”

B6. 3/12/40 EC’s letter: “Possibly after you read Miss [2144]‘s rdg. you will take more courage and try yours. Am sure we must have been associated somewhere, and would like to find out if possible. That is why I have suggested that I would like to give it to you if you will let me.”

B7. 3/14/40 “[2144] rec’d the rdg. today and will write to you herself and tell you all about it. I read it too. It surely goes back far enough. I didn’t know our lives are an endless chain. If you would care to give me a Life Rdg. for your own self to find out about our connection between your family and ours, why go ahead, but I give you fair warning if it turns out as bad as I think it will you won’t have to recognize us. It seems to me I must have been a terribly bad egg. I bet you.”

B8. 3/27/40 “I was born in the house where my mother lived until she died… I wish it had never happened. I have paid the price for all the sins of my own and my ancestors on all sides of the family, and I am still going strong… I can’t think of another thing worth mentioning about my unhappy self… I hope you won’t be disappointed in the Life Rdg. I will try and make it up to you some way. No hurry about the rdg. [Husband] and I were married on April 8th and there was a blizzard the day before and on our wedding day the sun came out fine.” [See subsequent correspondence preceding and following her many Physical Rdgs.]

B9. 2/18/41 She submitted questions for Ck. Physical 464-31, given on 2/21/41, in which EC reminded her that many depended on her advice and counsel, and indeed her very goodness.

B10. 2/26/42 See 464-32, her Life Rdg., Text of Reading.

Mentioned Entities

Entity (Cayce Term), Ideal, Astrology, Incarnation, Purpose, Egypt, France, Gladys Davis, Ohio, Records (Atlantean), Resurrection Appearances, Soul, Atlantis, Canada, Fallen Angels, Gertrude Cayce, Grace, Greece, John (Apostle), Lake Ontario

Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 464-32, ReadingID 3413.