TEXT OF READING 464-8 F 53
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Date: 4/26/1928 Sex: F Age: 53 ReadingID: 3389
This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his office, 115 West 35th Street, Virginia Beach, Va., this 26th day of April, 1928, in accordance with request made by self - Mrs. [464].
[Edgar Cayce; Mrs. Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mr. L. B. Cayce, and Dr. Thos. B. House.]
Time of Reading 11:05 A. M. Eastern Standard Time. …, Ohio.
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GC: You will tell us if her condition is a mental condition or physical condition. You will answer the questions I may ask you regarding same.
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EC: Yes, we have the body here.
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Now, we find conditions show somewhat of an improvement from that as has existed here before. The equalizing of the functioning of the system, through administration of the manipulations, materially assists the body - for, as has been given, while the conditions are to outward appearances those more of the mental than physical; yet there must exist some physical condition to cause such reaction from the mental attributes of the body. Hence we find as there are improper impulses through the sympathetic system, the body then becomes subject to those impulses and reactions that would indicate such conditions - but one examining the lumbar and lower dorsal region would find the case one of particular interest in this respect; for the lower end of the cerebro-spinal nerve centers, and the conjunction of the lower portion of sympathetic system, are here involved. With this continued condition on the improve, we would find conditions gradually building better. Be persistent, be consistent, and we will find we will have the more perfect coordination throughout nerve reflexes and the digestive and eliminating system; for these, as seen, are involved in the plexuses from those subluxations existent in the region given, and keeping the body mentally, physically, near normal reflexes, will bring a near normal condition for the body.
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(Q) Is the body getting the correct osteopathic treatment to correct these conditions? (A) These are very good. Would the body [if the body would] ITSELF follow suggestions for diet and activity as GIVEN by one administering the treatments, [Dr. James W. Forquer, D.O.] the condition would improve better - but to follow out for a while and then break off, it doesn’t mean much!
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We are through.
Reports
Reports & Follow-up
R1. 6/6/28 Letter:
Dear Mr. Cayce,
“I suppose you think that I never intend to write again. Well the fact of the matter is that I am utterly discouraged. I have quit. I just couldn’t see where I was getting anywhere. I am afraid my case is one of those incurable kinds. I was told to-day by one who understands electrical treatments that the violet-ray I took was no good. He described it to me but I cannot remember what he said. He said something about there having to be zinc in connection with it to penetrate & do good. Probably that was one reason why I did not improve as I should. One must understand these things. There are different kinds of electricity & unless we know, we make mistakes. I let Dr. Forquer go & hired a woman and I let her go. No one seemed to realize what I wanted done so I find myself just about where I was two years ago. No better, no worse and so discouraged. This old world is no place for me. If you know what in-mo-ray [as given as alternate tr. in her first rdg., 464-1.] is let me know where to find out all about it.”
With best wishes, Mrs. [464]
R2. 6/13/28 Letter:
My dear Mrs. [464]:-
“We have yours of the 6th. I believe if there’s anyone that can understand and appreciate your feelings at being discouraged, I can. I’ve been quite unwell myself for about five or six weeks. Sometimes I’d feel a lot better, then I’d seem to go all to pieces - and I just felt like, ‘Well, if the thing doesn’t work for me how can I ever expect it to work for anyone else?’, but I’m mighty glad to say that after a little careful study and being a little bit more consistent with the information given, I find myself feeling almost human again - and near about normal, I believe.
“I know you get discouraged, but you know you don’t want to give up YET. If you, of course, WANT us to try, I’ll be more than glad to see what we can find - BUT - in ANY case, you know it’s yourself - and there is such a thing as health, such a thing as a perfect understanding of what’s causing trouble and conditions, and the thing you want to do is just get hold of it in the right way and just keep at it until you DO, do it! It’s only in fighting the thing that you will be able to arrive at the proper understanding, and if we can be of help - why don’t hesitate to call on us. We are glad to try. Yes, I know there’s a lot in UNDERSTANDING what is given. I’ve certainly found that out, too.
“In-Mo-Ray, as I understand it, is the name given by some manufacturers for the kind of electrical appliance they make. These, as I understand, are used more by naturopath physicians, or some homeopaths or osteopaths. I know there is one man in Norfolk here - a naturopath - who has such a machine. I’ve never seen it, but I’ve heard him talk about it. [Carl S. Frischkorn, N.D.]
“Whenever you have the opportunity, let us hear from you. Don’t be conquered by the worries and troubles and conditions, but conquer them by understanding them - and let us hear from you whenever you can.
“With kindest personal regards and best wishes from all,”
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD [Dictated but not read]
R3. 6/13/28 Letter:
Dear Mr. Cayce,
“I am ashamed to ask you for another reading but there are some questions I would like to ask you. No matter what I do or what I try to do, I do not gain any strength in my lower limbs. I tried the doctor’s medicine but it is no good with me. I have been divided between two opinions for a long, long time. It is hard to believe that my trouble is only mental when the physical condition is so disturbed. I have forced myself to go places & do things only to return back in a state of collapse. No doubt my physical condition is a result of a mental disturbance. I have had enough trouble to drive me flue’. We do things through ignorance. If I had my life to live over again (& I don’t want it), I certainly would not allow myself to get in a condition of this kind. I would use some common sense. I have always been a highstrung nervous, self-willed being & one understanding the natural laws can overcome a lot of this nervous nonsense & save a pile of trouble. A little sensible reasoning helps mightily. Now if you can find it in your heart to have not a little - but a whole lot of patience with this erring patient of yours. You will be doing myself & my family a great service. My husband is about at the end of his rope where I am concerned & I greatly fear that if the truth of it were known - he would like to see the end of this trouble of mine one way or the other. The general run of men have little patience with sickness and mine is no exception to the rule. And he feels that he has had about enough. It just gets him to come home every night & see me on the couch. Although I am not on the couch all day & far from it. I use myself as much as I have power to & sometimes more. Could that pressure on my back be seen & recognized in by a photo taken with the X-ray. I do have a lot of trouble in my back on the left side right at the junction. I had my urine analyzed and the report was that it was alright. I have been worrying a lot over my condition lately & that is not good. I hadn’t done that - for up till that last sickness I have a perfect horror of paralysis. I wouldn’t have that fear, if my legs were in good working order. The fear of it - is a nightmare and only those I have much confidence in can dispel that fear nervous people are beset with - fears and horrors much to my disgust. If I say to myself once a day I say it a dozen times, ‘don’t be such a dumb fool! Behave yourself! There is nothing really the matter with you!’ Seems to me Mr. Cayce, that all the devils of hell are let loose, to torment this generation of peoples & they settle wherever they can find a roosting place. Well, they don’t need to roost on my brains. Now, do you think you folks could stand the pressure of another reading for me? I know it is asking a whole lot. I hate to feel myself defeated as long as I see a ray of hope. Now some questions. I will send you the money when you set the date for me.
- Are the glands normal?
- Would an X-ray photograph show the pressure in my back that the last reading said was causing so much trouble?
- Is the pressure from the spine or is it the kidneys enlarged?
- How is the blood now? it was showing an infection of the red & white?
- How is the liver behaving?
- How is the circulation?
- Will I still omit the meat from my diet?
- What causes the electric sparks that float before my eyes & what causes the black specks that float before my eyes?
- What causes the film that totally blinds, usually one eye at-a-time and lasts about 15 minutes?
“I get dreadfully discouraged yet, I know it must take time to overcome this long standing illness & just when I think things are working out nicely, I get a wallop that knocks me off my feet. It always takes so long to regain that lost confidence and strike out again. I read of cures you have made & I hear of them & that’s always encouraging. You know Mr. Cayce, I am up against it too for my husband never gives me any help or tries to stimulate the good work in my favor. He is alright but I often need encouragement & I don’t get it! I AM better than I was when I first started with you. I do not have those awful dizzy spells. If the Osteopath is still necessary I will have one come again. The treatment seems absurd to me. I haven’t given you a thing towards the Hospital, it is not because I do not want to. I have so many outlets for my money that it keeps me figuring how to meet up with all the demands. I haven’t had a new dress for over a year & I am wearing my old hats until they are too shabby. I am ashamed of them. We are expecting a small amount of money that is owing to us, in August & when that time comes I will send some. It may only be a very small amount but I want you to know that my heart is in the right place. That is I hope it is, unless it jumps out with one of its awful leaks. You did not tell me if you intend to keep your patients in the Hospital or if they have to get rooms some where else. I suppose you have no idea yet, what your prices will be. Our medical doctor, Evans thinks I want to know too much. I told him I like to know the ins & outs of things. He said that, when I asked him what, the tablets were for that he gave me to take. He said, ‘That is not for you to know.’ I knew I would put them in the garbage can sooner or later for that. I am not taking anything I don’t know anything about. I like the Dr. fine, but I don’t like his pills. He said they were for the glands to throw me off the scent. If they were really for the glands then the glands would have none of them for they made me feel awful queer.
“I did not intend to write a book when I started this letter. You will be very busy with your readings & looking after the work of the Hospital. I do hope you get lots of easier patients than I am right at first. So everything will go off with a bang!”
Yours most sincerely, Mrs. [464]
R4. 6/23/28 “I have been studying the rdgs. very carefully lately and find that at first I did not get all there was in them. Not knowing the human body and its workings or the medical terms used, I did not get it all at once and now as I sit here studying with charts and a dictionary, I am getting so I understand things much better…
“I think I shall go on with the tr. as given. I did think some of trying the other formula that you gave me [in 464-1 as an alternate], by living on the nuts and milk diet, and the In-Mo-Ray electric tr. I am afraid I would fall down on the diet - part of it…
“My osteopaths worked between my shoulders most of the time, and between my shoulders is the strongest part of my body. Both Dr. Barker [Mabel V. Barker, D.O.] and Dr. Forquer did the same thing. The woman I hired to give the violet ray sawed between my shoulders until I was ready to shake her, and I distinctly told each one over and over again it is below the 9th dorsal. I want the heavy work done. I may be wrong, but the rdg. said deep massage below the 9th dorsal, over the lumbar and down the sacral nerves. So I let them all go. I am paying for the kind of tr. I want, not what they want to give.”
Background
Background
B1. See 464-7 on 3/21/28.
B2. 4/20/28 She submitted questions.
Generated research index
Index (LLM-extracted)
Summary
This reading addresses Mrs. [464]‘s condition, which is both mental and physical, involving subluxations in the lower dorsal and lumbar regions affecting the sympathetic system, and recommends continued osteopathic treatment, diet, and activity, while also discussing her discouragement and questions about her health.
Conditions: mental condition, physical condition, improper impulses through sympathetic system, subluxations in lumbar and lower dorsal region, lack of strength in lower limbs, dizzy spells, electric sparks before eyes, black specks before eyes, film causing temporary blindness, fear of paralysis, discouragement
Remedies: osteopathic treatment, manipulations, diet, activity, violet-ray treatment, in-mo-ray electric treatment, nuts and milk diet
People: dr. james w. forquer, dr. barker, dr. evans, carl s. frischkorn
Places: Virginia Beach, Ohio, norfolk
Concepts: mental vs physical condition, sympathetic system, cerebro-spinal nerve centers, coordination of nerve reflexes, persistence and consistency
Referenced readings: 464-1, 464-7
Mentioned Entities
Glands (Esoteric), Osteopathy, Violet Ray, Gertrude Cayce, Gladys Davis, Massage Therapy, Ohio, Photography (Atlantean), Resurrection Appearances, Virginia Beach, Woman of Revelation
Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 464-8, ReadingID 3389.