TEXT OF READING 567-2 M 25
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Date: 6/27/1934 Sex: M Age: 25 ReadingID: 3994
This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his home on Arctic Crescent, Virginia Beach, Virginia, this 27th day of June, 1934, in accordance with request made by the mother - Mrs. [652], Active Member of the Ass”n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.
[Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mildred Davis and L. B. Cayce.]
Office of Capt. Time of Reading O’Donovan, Mich. 11:25 to 11:35 A. M. Eastern Standard Time. Ave. Jackson St., Chicago, Ill. (Physical Suggestion)
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EC: Yes, we have the body; this we have had before, [567].
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Now, as we find, there are some changes in the general physical forces of the body. These, while not in any outward appearance of great MATERIAL change, the activities to the coordinating forces within show change.
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There have been some very hard seizures, and some very hard conditions that surround the body - respecting those things that have to do, and have had to do, with the condition.
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As we find, under the EXISTENT conditions, it is NOT as helpful for the body to combine the hypnosis and electrical treatment in the present as MAY be necessary later on.
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For the moment, we will analyze that which takes place in the physical body from the anatomical standpoint:
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As has been indicated in portions of the body, as given in specific ways and manners, there are subluxations that have caused - and do cause - contributory conditions; making for engorgements where there should be the tendency for the influx or flow from impulses through the cerebrospinal and sympathetic system to enter the brain’s reaction, and the impulses as they come from the sensory system or centers in the brain to respond normally in the body. And there has been outlined that there should be certain corrections with the coordinating of those portions of the body in its structural force, as well as in the muscular or nerve ganglia along various portions of the body that should be brought into a nearer subjugation or coordination, for there to be brought about the more normal condition. This we would advise to be done.
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Now, as to the electrical vibration that changes the vibrations to the body - and the subjugation (though it hasn’t been wholly subjugated as yet) of the normal activity of the body through hypnosis: This is to FORCE the activity in and through the various portions of the body WITHOUT their being in the position for a helpfulness.
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A comparison would be that it is like forcing more water (or the attempt) through a hose that is not of sufficient capacity to carry same. And it produces in the walls of the fibre itself that which becomes soon detrimental, or makes for constitutional conditions such that the reactions are not so well.
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On the other hand, if the subluxations are corrected in the manner that we have indicated, in thirty to sixty days we would then give the changes. And it might be that the electrical vibration and the hypnosis as a combination would then be well, though it isn’t indicated in the present; but this may be necessary, dependent upon the changes that are wrought in the meantime.
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And these subluxations that we indicated have been shown by the shadowgraphs or X-Ray, that in the axis, in the lower portion of the cerebrospinal system; that there are SPECIFIC centers wherein these subluxations have prevented - and do prevent - the normal flow at such periods.
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We would, then, make the corrections as we have outlined.
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Ready for questions.
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(Q) Have the treatments with Dr. Kapple been begun properly? (A) These are very good, though they haven’t gone sufficiently far yet to indicate as to whether these will be followed in the lines as given or not. Give Kapple at least a chance!
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(Q) Is the Atomidine being taken properly? (A) This has been left as a sort of precautionary measure; partially taken at times and at others not adhered to just right.
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(Q) Is the diet being followed properly? (A) Hasn’t had the opportunity yet to get all of these together. Followed for a few days, and then it’s been changed.
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(Q) Any advice to Dr. Kapple? (A) Rather the advice would be to those in charge to give Kapple the opportunity, for at least thirty to sixty days, to see what he can do with it!
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We are through for the present.
[Mildred Davis’ note: EC said, “Hdub” and “Pubbli” twice in low voice on receiving waking suggestion, spelling out letters.]
Copy to Mrs. [652] ” ” Ass’n File
6/27/34 EC’s wire collect to Mrs. [652]: Combination not advised. Give Kapple fair chance. Report being mailed.
Reports
Reports & Follow-up
R1. 7/5/34 EC’s letter to Dr. W. Lee Kapple in reply to his of 6/26th [See under 567-1 Reports]: “Yours of the 26th I have just received, and am very glad to know that you have had young [567] under your care. Here I want to say that I have recently received a letter from his father, and he spoke in the most glowing terms of you and your abilities; complimenting us almost beyond measure for our ability to have you interested in our undertaking. Then from other sources, even from reports that I had today, I feel sure you must be getting results.
“For your information, regarding the treatments by Capt. O’Donovan, you have no doubt seen the reading we received about this, suggesting that it would NOT be well to combine the treatments; that these might be helpful later on but not right now in conjunction with yours; that it would be necessary first for you to make a closer coordination between the sympathetic or imaginative system and the physical body before there would be much benefit from such treatments - in fact, they would be harmful. Of course, I haven’t heard whether these treatments are being continued or not, since that last reading was given.
“I can only say that I appreciate your reports, and I’m anxious to know about Mrs. [515]. I have written her, but haven’t heard anything recently. I’m hoping that in the early part of the fall we may be in Chicago, and that it may be possible for us to be of a great deal of assistance to each other - as I will want at that time to increase our membership and interest individuals there in the work of the organization, if it is in keeping with their best interest. I hope you will let me hear from you as often as you find the opportunity, and know that if there is any way in which I might be of a help, you only have to let me hear. We recognize the fact that we do not know it all, and there’s possibly no channel that is infallible; for we are all human, but if we can only arouse the God-Consciousness in the individual, through whatever means is necessary, we may be of benefit to mankind; but we know that we are indeed very poor physicians if we cannot add something of spiritual value to the individual; for to save a body without a purpose or without a cause is worse than not to save it at all.
“Let us hear from you. With all good wishes and kindest personal regards, I am,” Sincerely…
R2. 7/4/34 EC’s letter from [567], rec’d after above letter, of course: “Now, Mr. Cayce, as you know, Capt. O’Donovan started hypnotizing me but did not succeed in COMPLETE hypnosis. My 3rd day in his office I started to have a turn and he pulled me out of it. He then said I would have no more. That has been 6 days ago and I have not even had a feeling of one since… Why not take hypnosis from the Capt.
and continue taking tr. from Dr. Kapple? In this way I can become well quicker, with no ill effects to myself, according to Capt. O’Donovan. Dr. Kapple has your instructions and is following them to the letter.”
R3. 7/4/34 Father [643]‘s letter: “In thanking you for the reading Mrs. [652] asked for regarding any other treatment we believe with you but at the same time in my anxiety to see [567] get started I did ask Dr. Howe of N.Y. [Hubert Howe, M.D.?] what his ideas were, NOT because any faith in your work was lacking but so that no stone would be left unturned.
“We have had many sure shot cures and of course these have their effects. I saw no other doctor and Howe was only because my brother knew him and no harm could result. And he advised keeping under control with Luminol which in itself must be criminally stupid.
“As for the hypnosis; it looked to me as though the influence or example of a healthy man and a healthy body would go along with [567]‘s quite weak will and inspire him to leave the cigarettes and coffee alone. He is constant in his affection for them and naturally needs some influence to have him know that while these things MAY NOT harm him, still it is axiomatic that people do not raise babies on nicotine, caffein, etc.
“He wants to be cured. He wants it to be done by others with no effort required of him. He is better and it looks certain that Dr. Kapple who is an exceptional man is getting results. Of course if you think, as written that Dr. K should have his chance without interference this looks logical to us and we shall hope to accomplish this thing.
“Please do not believe uncertainty or fear mastered me: in a mechanical way, this being my main job I have wanted to cover all angles as we went along.
“Mr. L. A. Weary [1/66 GD’s note: Mr. Weary & family moved to VB yrs. ago.] is quite interested and says they are going to call on you before long. You will like them both very much.
“[567] is better and we attribute it to Dr. Kapple’s fine work.
“He ridicules nothing, even chiropractic. I do not laugh at his work. I knew only one man and when he tried to cure a cold for me by gently moving my arm it was a joke to me. I have known that real osteopathy with brisk working of the muscles would do wonders.”
R4. 7/5/34 Mother [652]‘s Letter: “I feel that I am giving you a great deal of trouble, but I’m sure you understand my great anxiety.
“When [643] brought [567] home he took him, against my judgment, to a Capt. O’Donovan who has seemingly a long record in the British Army and U.S. Army for bravery in flying - and who, his manager says, is a graduate from Calcutta University, India, in medicine and surgery. His father was an Army surgeon who learned hypnotism in India and taught his son, who has been hypnotizing people for 40 yrs. His manager, Mr. white, was at one time purchasing agent for Montgomery, Ward, and is trying to ‘put the Captain over’ as he expresses it.
“Now, Mr. Cayce, in spite of my protests, [567] has been to him 8-9 times and finally he succeeded in hypnotizing him. After we repeatedly asked for a price, Mr. White came out yesterday to say that they wanted 5% of all our property, or 25% of the yearly income, or $5,000, and this is the conversation. The Captain, says he, has adjusted the centers in [567]‘s brain but hasn’t sealed them, and I won’t bother you with the threats he made if we don’t let them finish. Now just what can they do to my boy? Can they at any time control him to his injury? and have they left a condition which will be dangerous? We told them that we were going to follow your tr. at all costs and have told them that [567] will not be back to them. Can they make him go back, or can they harm him?
“I know Mr. [643] is frantic with worry and I mustn’t blame him for what he thought was right, and I now think I can control the situation.
“If [567] could be gotten out of Chicago where they didn’t know where to reach him, would it help? Is there a man with you who could treat [567] and could he get the diet and complete tr. there? I think he is much better away from [643] just now and, frankly, Mr. Cayce, away from us all. There is constant friction that must be bad for him. Captain O’Donovan said he thought [567] was faking the turns and that he had been masturbating until he wasn’t safe to have around. What can I do? I have made a friend of my children always and they have never been afraid to come to me with anything and [567] has talked to me always as he never has with his father - and I have given him my best judgment always. He has never been a liar, and while I understand anything can happen to a growing boy at school and elsewhere, I know he would trust me to help him. So I am rather stunned and altogether hopeless. Do tell me just what these men can do to my boy. I could not stop his going, but I surely can do something now that it is over - or is it over?
“Thank you, and God bless you!”
R5. 7/7/34 EC’s letter to Mrs. [652]: “Your special of the 5th has just come. Also I had a letter from Mr. [643], and a few days ago one from [567]. As yet I haven’t answered [567], but will soon. I tried to explain to Mr. [643] what I felt was the correct thing to do in the situation. As I told him, the last reading indicated it would not be best for [567] to continue with the hypnotic treatments while Dr. Kapple is making the corrections. Mr. [643] seemed to be thoroughly sold on Dr. Kapple as a man, and also his abilities. It seems such a horrible thing for one with such a hypnotic power as Capt. O’Donovan to be so unreasonable or mercenary; one who has been given the ability (or has learned it, if he chooses rather to put it that way) to really bring help to others. I’m sure you haven’t told me all the unkind things that have been said by Mr. White. As you may very well imagine, the scientists have said that I hypnotize myself when I give a reading, though this does not seem to me to be true - from my experience; and I have never attempted to hypnotize any other person. But that is what many scientists term my work. As to what these individuals might be able to do with [567], of course, I cannot tell. Possibly no one can. If Capt. O’Donovan is so unprincipled as to allow even his manager to make such threats, there’s no telling what might not be done. But know this: Having been under your influence, it will be very - very hard - and I believe would require YEARS of practice - for them to make [567] do something that he doesn’t want to do; though I’ll have to admit that he has asked in his letter to me that I allow him to go on with Capt. O’Donovan’s treatments. This may have been a suggestion from them, I don’t know.
“However, Mrs. [652], I believe I have a solution for the problem. We have no place here where [567] might stay and take the treatments, but we do have an associate and friend who runs a place near New York; in fact, he has a large treatment place in New York City and in connection with it a large Farm in New Jersey where people go for rest cures and also take treatments. The man who has charge of these places has handled quite a number of cases for us, following the reading suggestions, and I believe this would be the very place for [567]. The enclosed booklets will give you some idea of the two places, and I’m sure Dr. Reilly could arrange for [567] to be cared for at the Farm with all the necessary treatments. In fact, the young man [Gray Salter] whom Dr. Reilly has at the Farm to give the treatments was at one time connected with our hospital here and is quite familiar with our work and following the readings. In this way we could keep just as close in touch with the case as if he were right here at the Beach. So I believe it would be a good thing for you to write Dr. Reilly and make the arrangements. Write Dr. H. J. Reilly, The Reilly Service, 1908 Broadway, New York City.
“In the meantime, though, we are making an appointment to give another check reading on [567], just to see what we can find about this condition and if this suggestion about going to Reilly is plausible or feasible. This is for next Thursday afternoon, the 12th, between 3:00 and 4:00 o’clock Eastern Standard Time. You won’t have time to verify the appointment by letter, but if it is satisfactory, please wire me the exact address at which [567] will be during the hour set.
“This is possibly the answer, after all. I don’t know of another place.
“Of course, many individuals will accuse a person of such as Capt. O’Donovan did [567], especially in cases of this kind. We have had a number of cases - both sexes - where such has been a primary or basic cause of some disorder. So I believe that if such had been the case with [567] the reading would have mentioned it. However, we will ask that question specifically in the check reading Thursday, and if the place in New York - New Jersey - would be a practical, plausible, feasible place for [567]. I appreciate the stress that you have been going through. Know that if it is at all possible for us to be of a help, it is our sincere desire to do so.
“I appreciate your letter, expressing your confidence and faith; and I’m praying that it may indeed be possible for me in some way through the gift that has been granted me, I believe be of a help to you and yours at this time.
“With love from all to you and yours, I am…
“P.S. Be sure to wire me if the time is satisfactory, giving just where [567] will be during the hour. Also it would be well for him to remain quiet, all holding to the affirmation and desire that the highest possible information and help may be received at the time.”
R6. 7/7/34 EC’s letter to [567]: “I have yours of the 4th, and note what you say about the treatments from Capt. O’Donovan and Dr. Kapple. From some of the things that have come up, I’m sure there is a great deal of anxiety on the part of your mother and father, and no doubt yourself.
“In trying to analyze the information, [567], I believe there is something worth while in the reading and the treatments recommended for you. We know that all activities of the human body, whether a blood vessel, nerve ganglia or what, move - we might say - through a casing throughout the system. I’m analyzing it from the reading standpoint now; for, as you know, I am not a physician, but unless this information in the readings is plain common sense we can’t make it very practical. But my impression is that if Capt. O’Donovan was to force an impulse or an activity through a ganglion or a blood vessel or center in your brain or what not, when it was not relaxed, it would be very much like trying to force a three-inch stream of water through a two inch hose. It might work in part for a little while, but it would destroy the very thing that was the channel for carrying the impulse, wouldn’t it? Now it’s the same for you. There have been lesions, hindrances in your body, that the very thing that has produced these conditions - in attempting to be forced through - would bring about bad effects. Now, if these corrections are made by Dr. Kapple first, with the other suggestions in the reading followed along as given, it would be much better - and it certainly seems sensible; much more so than to force the issue without the corrections being made from the very basis. I have written your mother and father. I hope you will bear with me; not because I am trying to lay any claims for the information that comes through me as being infallible at all. I’m giving you the experience of thirty odd years, and of thousands upon thousands of cases. And I believe if that had been the best in the first instance the reading would have suggested it for you.
“However, we are making plans for a check up reading on these things for you for next Thursday afternoon the 12th, and we will try to get all these questions answered and clarified for you - and see just what can be done.
“I hope this is in keeping with the best, and that you will be able to grasp just what my feelings are in the matter, knowing that my whole purpose and desire is to do that which will bring the best for [567] at this time.
“With love and regards, thanking you for your letter, appreciating your faith and confidence, I am, with all good wishes…”
R7. 7/10/34 Mrs. [652] wired verification and [567]‘s address, etc.
R8. 7/12/34 See 567-3.
R9. 7/14/80 GD’s note: Today Capt. O’Donovan’s son’s daughter visited A.R.E. and in studying the epilepsy readings found her grandfather’s name. She told me she met him only once, when she was about ten years old. She is going to send me copies of some old clippings about him which her mother has kept all these years.
Background
Background
B1. See 567-1 on 6/1/34.
B2. 6/26/34 Mother [652] wired asking if electricity and hypnosis for [567] with Captain O’Donovan would be injurious, stating that [567] is also taking tr. with Dr. W. Lee Kapple, Naprapath, as 567-1 suggested.
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Summary
This reading advises against combining hypnosis and electrical treatments until subluxations are corrected, recommending osteopathic adjustments and giving Dr. Kapple a chance, while addressing concerns about Captain O’Donovan’s hypnotic influence.
Conditions: subluxations, engorgements, seizures
Remedies: osteopathic adjustments, electrical treatment, hypnosis, Atomidine, diet
People: Dr. Kapple, Captain O’Donovan, Mrs. [652], Mr. [643], Dr. Reilly, Gray Salter, Mr. White, Dr. Howe
Places: Virginia Beach, Chicago, New York City, New Jersey
Concepts: hypnosis, cerebrospinal system, sympathetic system, coordination of body forces
Referenced readings: 567-1, 567-3
Mentioned Entities
New York City, Chicago, Physical Body, Vibration, India, Purpose, A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment), Atomidine, Book of Job, Chiropractic, England, Gertrude Cayce, Gladys Davis, Osteopathy, Prayer, Virginia Beach
Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 567-2, ReadingID 3994.