Reading 8-4

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Date: 11/8/1924 Sex: M Age: 34 ReadingID: 32

This Psychic Reading given by Edgar Cayce at his office, 322 Grafton Avenue, Dayton, Ohio, this 8th day of November, 1924, in accordance with request made by self - Mr. [8].

[Edgar Cayce; Mrs. Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mr. [8] & Fred Roth.]

Time of Reading 11:45 A. M. Dayton Time. …, Ohio.

1. GC: You will give in detail, and in a definite manner, understandable to the human mind of to-day, a mental, spiritual and financial reading, with suggestions how to better develop each. You will answer any questions relative to these that I may ask. Questions that should not be answered, you will say, “Not given from here.”

2. EC: Yes, we have the body here. The mental and the spiritual we have had here before. In the mental and the spiritual, which are companions in the development, or the improving of conditions that relate to the physical or the material world, in these there has been given that the development either mentally or spiritually, which may not be developed; that is, the spiritual, only the mental may be developed in accord with the spiritual forces as will be allowed to manifest through the physical in any capacity in a material world, as in this: There has been given those conditions for which the body may develop in the material world. In those developments, the entity must choose for itself, for without the volition of the will the entity only becomes as a pawn that is moved by the will, or dictates, of some other entity.

3. Then, in the developing of the mental for the best develop- ment in the material world, best that the entity first gain the knowledge of self in its relation to the spiritual and material world. The better development for the entity will be in those lines and endeavors as has been given, in that of the management of conditions or business that has to do with the credit or extended credit to individuals in other planes or circumstances.

4. In the development, then, the entity uses its will force, as would be varied by the experiences of the mental forces of the body.

5. In the financial, this we find would be the outcome of the endeavors in a material world, with those volitions of the mental and physical actions, and must be of the own entity’s will an not from the forces as here. These may only give those which would be a choice between any given conditions that might be manifested in material forces.

6. In the developing, then, of the financial forces for the entity, be well that all of the relative forces with the mental and the material be weighed well together, and that choice made wherein the entity would develop for the betterment in a financial world. This, too, we find, without the volition of the entity, there will be financial funds in the hands of the entity, [8]. These should be handled in the manner in keeping with the mental forces, weighed with the spiritual understanding of self and the duty to others.

7. In the financial field, there are many opportunities that will be presented to the body. These must, however, come through the action of the entity’s will forces in the entity. In any place the body may choose, the entity may develop in the spiritual and the mental, and financial. The cares of the entity should always be placed in that inner self, the spiritual, and using then the mental forces to develop to that way that will bring the better forces to the body.

8. (Q) At the present time, give the name of the city this entity should make his business career in, and state why. (A) Any that he may choose for himself.

9. (Q) Mention one venture, or proposition, this entity, [8], should undertake. (A) Shows, or the propositions that would carry the entity to the South and West from place of birth.

10. (Q) Would selling real estate in Florida be the proper thing for [8] to do? If not, what would be, under present conditions and circumstances? (A) This might be very good, but the entity must first sell the proposition to himself, or no success can be made. The entity has had a demonstration of this in its own experience. Profit by that. That is, no success can be made unless the entity, through its own will force and own volition, is satisfied in its inner self with the conditions surrounding the venture. Then, with that condition, the entity has that capacity to make a financial success of any undertaking, but must first sell self on the proposition. That is, again, do not worry about conditions existing in the financial strain at present. Only make the self, through its spiritual and mental, comply with those requirements to make the success the body desires.

11. We are through for the present.

[GD’s memo: The above was Mr. [8]‘s last personal reading. For subsequent correspondence see 8-4 Reports.]

Reports

Reports & Follow-up

R1. 11/22/24 EC referred Mr. [8] to [3899] regarding his interest in locating and developing Florida lands.

R2. 12/3/24 Letter briefed Mr. [8]‘s experience regards two propositions in Florida which fell through; then: “I wish you could make this your home town… I am in love with Florida, what I have seen of it… I am sorry these other two deals fell through, but I still have confidence in my trip down here, and to show you I am a sport, impressions or no impressions, if I can make some money, the friendship I feel towards you and the work you are doing, I shall finance you to move down here and see that you have the cash before coming, not like other men do [5717] (?), for I sure would like to see you and the family in Florida.” [GD’s memo: Interesting, in light of the Atlantean incarnation given him in 8-1 (?).]

R3. 12/13/24 Alma M. S. Reed’s letter to [8]: “The editor of the Sunday ‘Times’ has given me your letter in reference to my article on the ‘Lost Atlantis.’ I am going to North Africa with Count de Prorok’s expedition in February, and should welcome any ideas or suggestions that you may give on the subject.”

R4. 12/17/24 Letter: “Are you willing or can you, if I make the arrangements, to take readings on this subject? It will be the biggest thing ever done if I can bring this to a head.”

R5. 12/19/24 EC’s letter: “I’m sure this would be quite an interesting thing. I have several readings, however, that have already been given in horoscopes, where reference is made to Atlantis, and it has given the location already in these. I would like very much to be in touch with any pupil who is considering such an expedition. It might be possible to work out things to mutual advantage of each.”

R6. 12/23/24 Letter: “After I received your letter today I wired her you had the location of ‘Lost Atlantis’ and asked her to advise.” [Alma M. S. Reed replied that she had no authority in the expedition except in regard to the publication, but that she would take the matter up with the heads of the expedition.]

R7. 12/13/25 Letter: “Since seeing you last I went through a vast experience, finally landed up as manager of the … Theatre. This theatre is a little over a year old… I have increased the profits since I took hold of this theatre from 1500 to 2000 per week and must say that it is a wonderful firm to be connected with…”

R8. 1/18/26 Mr. [8] requested another physical reading for his sister, Miss [9], and wrote: “I am still making a remarkable showing over here at the theatre. Business is getting better and better; enjoy my work and am perfectly happy and contented, only I want to make more money, so I can be able to help others very much and be able to get married. All I’ve got to find now is the right girl; I wonder who and where she is…

“Was over to see Morton Blumenthal today; had lunch with him; spent a few hours with him talking about starting the ball to rolling on that medium for bleeding gums.” [See [1800].]

R9. 1/28/26 Mr. [8]‘s letter regarding marketing the pyorrhea remedy given in the readings [See [1800] series]: “The confidence and faith I have in you is as great as is my belief in God, and I know there is a God although I do not pray every day, and so I want you to feel no matter what you decide to do in the foregoing [regarding pyorrhea remedy proposition and Mr. [8]‘s part in it] my friendship will be just as strong as ever.”

R10. 2/26/26 Mr. [8] wrote that his sister Miss [9] had died, and EC wrote a letter of sympathy.

R11. 9/11/27 Mr. [8] referred Mrs. [4658] for Physical Rdg.

R12. 1/29/31 Letter: “I ought to be ashamed of myself for not writing sooner, but it is the old story, when someone is in trouble, he thinks of the one that can help him. I seem to have a lot of trouble with my eyes for the past week. Have consulted a half dozen physicians up to the present date, but nothing has definitely been done.”

R13. 2/7/31 Letter: “My eyesight became normal after seeing double for about 10 days. The doctors who attended me cannot account for this, but since I am now o.k. I guess we will postpone the reading for the time being, but should I get nervous again I will immediately get in touch with you and waste no time with the doctors.”

R14. 10/21/35 A man wrote enquiring about a reading, having talked to Mr. [8].

R15. 12/3/43 A lady wrote enquiring about a reading for her father, saying: “Mr. [8] recommended you very highly as being able to help people who are in the condition my Dad is in.”

R16. 5/9/44 Mr. [8]‘s last letter, with his name still on the stationery as manager of the theatre: “I suppose you will be surprised to receive this letter, not having heard from me in such a long time. My problem right now is ‘what are the possibilities of you taking a life reading’? So many things have happened here recently that I thought perhaps this would clarify my bewilderment. Kindest regards to the family.”

R17. 5/11/44 EC’s letter: “My, it is good to hear from you again. How are you and what are you doing with yourself? Tell me all about yourself. Our boys are of course in the Army, one in England, the other in the South Atlantic. We have two grandsons, each of the boys married and have a son each. All well. At present, [8], we are full-up with appointments but you know if it is possible we will get you a reading. Let me have the data and what you wish to get information about and will try. Have you read the book written about me? If not, let me send you a copy; think you will like it; many in the book you will recognize. “Glad to hear from you. All send good wishes.”

Background

Background

None.

Mentioned Entities

Entity (Cayce Term), Florida, Atlantis, Free Will, Dayton Ohio, Morton Blumenthal, Ohio, Africa, Atlantic Ocean, England, Gertrude Cayce, Gladys Davis, Incarnation

Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 8-4, ReadingID 32.