TEXT OF READING 2072-10 F 32
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Date: 7/22/1942 Sex: F Age: 32 ReadingID: 8664
This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at the office of the Association, Arctic Crescent, Virginia Beach, Va., this 22nd day of July, 1942, in accordance with request made by the self - Mrs. [2072], Associate Member of the Ass”n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.
[Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mrs. [2072] and Mr. [1861].]
Time of Reading 3:25 to 4:25 P. M. Eastern War Time. …, Va.
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GC: You will have before you the entity [2072], nee [2072] born March 25, 1910, in Attica, Indiana; who seeks a continuation of her Check Life Reading [2072-1] with information, advice and guidance, and more detail as to certain past incarnations. You will answer the questions submitted by the entity, as I ask them, concerning past associations and their influence in the present, and certain symbols of her aura chart [2072-7]:
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EC: Yes, we have the records here of that entity now known as or called [2072]; and the information which has been indicated through these channels as an interpretation of the urges latent and manifested, as well as the experiences of the entity through varied sojourns.
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Ready for questions.
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(Q) Going back to the Atlantean incarnation - what was the Tuaoi stone? Of what shape or form was it? (A) It was in the form of a six-sided figure, in which the light appeared as the means of communication between infinity and the finite; or the means whereby there were the communications with those forces from the outside. Later this came to mean that from which the energies radiated, as of the center from which there were the radial activities guiding the various forms of transition or travel through those periods of activity of the Atlanteans.
It was set as a crystal, though in quite a different form from that used there. Do not confuse these two, then, for there were many generations of difference. It was in those periods when there was the directing of aeroplanes, or means of travel; though these in that time would travel in the air, or on the water, or under the water, just the same. Yet the force from which these were directed was in this central power station, or Tuaoi stone; which was as the beam upon which it acted.
In the beginning it was the source from which there was the spiritual and mental contact.
Understand, these are the following of laws - if there would be the understanding or comprehension of these. For, as has been given, the basis, the beginning of law carries all the way through. And that which comes or begins first is conceived in spirit, grows in the mental, manifests in the material; as was this central force in the Atlantean experience. First it was the means and source or manner by which the powers that be made the centralization for making known to the children of men, and children of God, the directing forces or powers. Man eventually turned this into that channel for destructive forces, - and it is growing towards this in the present.
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(Q) In the Egyptian incarnation - what was the name and the work or service of the entity, after the purification in the temple? (A) As indicated, the entity was the last of those companions of the Priest in that experience; thus aiding in the activities in which there was the distributing or the interpreting of those teachings as related to the spiritual, mental and material developments through that period.
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(Q) What was the name? (A) As has been indicated.
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(Q) Is the mark of Ra-Ta the most expedient point through which an individual entity may attune itself with the spiritual or psychic or Creative Forces? (A) As we have indicated, it would be well for the entity to understand what the mark of Ra-Ta symbolized.
As was the teaching or the concept of that entity Ra-Ta, the individual - or the individual personality of an entity - remained in activity. This was to be as an awakening to each individual entity, as to their united effort in that particular experience.
As to the nature, the type of mark, - this indicated the manner the channel in which the entity would become aware of that union or united effort, or of being a member of that group, - as of a sign or a symbol to any great body as of a united effort on the part of a group of individuals.
Thus to those individuals who find their relationship and become aware of same in the present experience, this naturally becomes that channel through which the greater awakening may come to those individuals.
To be sure, this is a continuation of the holding to the idea or ideal of an individual entity. This is not to be confused with that which is the perfect understanding of the law of the Lord. For, Ra-Ta was not a lord, not a god, but a teacher, an instructor, an interpreter; and an individual entity that would still hold to an ideal, or an idea of an ideal.
And, as has been indicated to this entity, this is and should be considered as being true respecting ANY teacher, any interpreter, - save Him who IS the way, the truth and the light. While each teacher is in a manner a director, the individual entity may only be a means - NOT a way of life, see?
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(Q) What was the association or relationship with Uhjltd during the Persian incarnation? (A) As indicated, there was the association as an aid or help, or instructor, in the application of those tenets or truths to the individuals or groups that were a part of the experience of each entity through that period of activity.
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(Q) May I be given anything further of the Palestine incarnation at this time? (A) Much might be given. Best - and the greater interpretation - is to seek same in self. For, again, the law is implied and is active. As the entity came directly in contact with that power, that influence, that force that fadeth and faileth not, so those promises as made by Him are applicable in the experience today. Thus, as has been implied to the entity, make first thine own that truth set forth by a great teacher, in Deuteronomy 30; and then that which is the pathway to light, to life, to God, to the Christ-Consciousness, that is indicated in the 14th, 15th, 16th and 17th of John. There one comes in the closer association with those promises that are to the individual, and the answering is within - as the reflection of the face in the water, to the reflection of self in the mirror. These answer as one to another. And from that which has been indicated may be builded an outline, yea a concept of the material experiences of the entity throughout the sojourn.
For, as the saw goes: Don’t tell us what you used to be when things went all your way, but what are you doing today that the Savior may stay with thee and with thy concept of the application of His tenets in the lives of those with whom ye come in contact day by day. For, as ye do it, as ye treat, as ye think of each individual with whom ye come in contact along life’s way, that entity - be it one physically attractive or one that casts off influences that are repulsive - is an OPPORTUNITY for YOU, as an individual, to glorify God, and to be aware of the Christ-Consciousness enabling you to meet every problem.
As He gave, fears and doubts and disappointments are a part of the price one pays for the opportunity to see life - or the experience of that man terms life - manifested in individual lives in a material plane.
Thus, as ye analyze those activities in this particular land, make those tenets thine own that are witness bearers for God’s relationship to man, - first through the lawgiver, then through the only, the first begotten son of the Father. And in that consciousness ye may become more and more aware of that which is the helpful force in thine own experience.
For, as it has been so oft given, with what spirit, with what purpose ye choose in thy activities in thy daily relationships, that is the power ye have in thine own experience to become not only aware of individual activities, individual relationships, but there may come in same that peace - if ye would have peace in this material experience.
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(Q) Please give symbols that would signify the French incarnation in the manner as for an aura chart. (A) As has been indicated in the astrological aspect, - that TO the left, or going toward the left, you see, indicates the purpose or determination with which there was the entrance into the earthly experience, and with the symbols about same of the manner in which the application was made. That UPON the left indicates the manner, purpose or hope with which the life experience was directed, and the symbols about that indicate the manner in which such was accomplished.
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(Q) Where and when have I known the following entities, what was the nature of the experience and association: First, J. William Lloyd (Father Eneres or Solotelo)? (A) These are one and the same. The experience in this particular sojourn has been as of meeting and comprehending, as of a friend or teacher; known in Egypt as well as in Persia and in Palestine. In each experience the relationships were different or varied, from the physical angle. From the mental and spiritual, a growth together. Thus the recognition in the present of, and awakening to, the forces or the powers latent within.
But in the judgment of these, temper them with that which has been indicated above as respecting ANY teacher.
As to the physical relationships, friends and foes in varied experiences; but the teachings, the spiritual and mental, in the same directions.
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(Q) Was he any famous or well-known entity in a past incarnation? (A) What entity is NOT famous! What entity is NOT well known in the end! As to being worldly famous, - no more than in the present; as a teacher, a helper to those along life’s seeking way.
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(Q) My brother, […]? (A) In the Atlantean experience, as we find; and these were sometimes good, sometimes bad. For, as the entity then was able to use or apply those tenets or truths from the spiritual supply, so did the entity who is now the brother confuse in the application of the same thing, made into what was called mechanical means, or materialized power of a universal nature used in material ways for destructive forces, as well as for material benefits or pleasures.
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(Q) My mother-in-law, […]? (A) In the Palestine experience we find ye were as helpers; sisters in spirit, in purpose, in the flesh.
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(Q) Del […]? (A) We don’t find the associations in experiences other than this.
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(Q) […]? [2441]? (A) In those experiences that may be drawn as the parallels. Here we find there were those acquaintances; cross purposes at times, but oft in unison in the activities in Egypt, as well as in Atlantis and in Palestine.
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(Q) Thelma […]? (A) As the entity is a teacher an instructor to the entity, in the present, so was it a teacher and an instructor to that entity, - especially in the Egyptian experience.
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(Q) Alice […]? (A) These have been rather in the same type of association; knowing of, acquainted with, directed by much of that as expounded or propounded, rather than a physical contact in any of the other experiences.
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(Q) Harry […]? (A) Not so good; we haven’t these connections.
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(Q) Samuel […]? (A) This should be drawn as parallels, if it would be correctly interpreted. For as we find, there have been connections, but more of a mental, and at times physical in concepts, - in Palestine and in Egypt.
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(Q) In which incarnation was I the mother of my present husband [1861]? (A) As may be indicated by the paralleling of the readings for each. These as we find indicate what the relationships were in each of the appearances in the earth. As daughter and father, as husband and wife, as mother and son. These have been the experiences in the activities of these entities in the earth.
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(Q) What talents have I which might be developed to value and service? (A) Not only as the home builder but as an instructor, as a helpmeet, as an aid to those who have lost their full concept of their relationships to God - through their relationship to man. Thus, this wholly understood by the entity, may be not only practised in the daily life but enable the entity to become a helper to those the entity may meet day by day. It is not those that do some great deed who are great before the Lord. And whom seek ye to bless? Thine own ego, thy fellow man, or thy God? Man looketh on the outward appearance, and most of the ideas for the making for success are based upon either the answering to the lusts of the eye or to the lusts of the flesh. Yet the Lord’s judgment is upon they that seek after the spirit, who are indeed true, sincere seekers after Him. And from these He will withhold no good thing.
Thus may the entity grow in grace, in knowledge, in understanding.
As the entity has been warned, seek not for knowledge alone. For, look - LOOK - what it brought Eve. Look rather for that wisdom which was eventually founded in she that was addressed as the handmaid of the Lord, and who “pondered those things in her heart,” as to how and why Gabriel would speak with her. Would ye not seek that thy Master again speak with thee, as He did in those experiences in the earth? These are worth seeking for. Search and ye shall find, knock and it will be opened unto you. For the earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof.
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(Q) What is my stone? (A) Lapis lazuli.
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(Q) What is the note of the musical scale to which I vibrate? (A) As we have indicated, Ah - This is not R, but Ah - aum [A U M], see? These are the sounds. Those that respond to the centers of the body, in opening the centers so that the kundaline forces arise to that activity through those portions of the body. Sound these, and ye will find them in thyself. They are the manners or ways of seeking.
For as ye have understood, if ye have read Him and His conversation with His friends, His disciples as respecting John, - John was a great entity, none greater. And yet the least in the kingdom of heaven was greater than he. What meaneth this manner of speech?
They that have wisdom are great, they that have understanding as to the manner to APPLY same for the good of self AND others, - not for self at the expense of others, but for others, - are in the awareness of the kingdom.
Thus, as to the note of thy body, - is there always the response to just one? Yes. As we have indicated oft, for this entity as well as others, there are certain notes to which there is a response, but is it always the same? No more than thy moods or thy tendencies, UNLESS ye have arisen to the understanding of perfect attunement.
When a violin or an instrument is attuned to harmony, is it out of tune when struck by the same motion, the same activity? Does it bring forth the same sound?
So with thy body, thy mind, thy soul. It is dependent upon the tuning, - whether with the infinite or with self, or with worldly wisdom. For these, to be sure, become the mysteries of life to some, - the mysteries of attuning. What seek ye? Him, self, or what?
He is within and beareth witness.
The tone, then, - find it in thyself, if ye would be enlightened. To give the tune or tone as Do, Ah - aum - would mean little; unless there is the comprehending, the understanding of that to which ye are attempting to attune, - in the spiritual, the mental, the material.
There IS music in jazz, but is there perfect harmony in same?
There IS harmony in a symphony, as in the voices as attuned to the infinite - a spirit and a body poured out in aid or the search for the soul.
There is no greater than that as may be expressed in that of, “O my son Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! would God I had died for thee, O Absalom, my son, my son!”
To what is this attuned? What IS the note there?
That as of the realization of the lack of training the mind of the son in the way of the Lord, rather than in the knowledge of controlling individuals.
This, then, is indeed the way of harmony, the way of the pitch, the way of the tone. It is best sounded by what it arouses in thee, - where, when, and under what circumstance.
- We are through for the present.
Copy to Self ” ” Ass’n file
Reports
Reports & Follow-up
R1. 7/24/42 (Friday evening) [2072]‘s letter to EC:
Dear Eddie,
I found it very nice to find your letter [7/20/42 See under 2072-8?] waiting on the hall table for me when we arrived home Wednesday night. It was like the warm afterglow of the few wonderful hours we had just had with you.
How very much I like this picture of you and the more I study it the better I like it. I feel certain the others will be as pleased as I am. Thank you so very very much for it. I am so glad to have it I am glad you did take time to go get them the morning we were there. Mother said you had “a fine face.”
Have you received some of this wonderful rain which began last night (here) and continued through today with gentle abundant showers, the sky cloud-cast and NO sun. The outside thermometer dropped to 65 degrees; inside, to 72 degrees. Welcome relief!
I have made a copy of the clipping and am returning it for your files as you desired.
Eddie, I can’t help but think often since I’ve returned of your reply when I asked you what you would do if you had a great deal of money - that you would like to start a school
- and I don’t believe it is beyond realization. Since your reply I even believe it will be - HOW I do not know exactly
- but I believe that if you sincerely desire it it shall be. Can’t we all be working with you and for you for this wonderful realization? Sincerely, I hope and pray it may come about. And, as the two books go out into the world I believe you are going to see a group from among those reading same desiring a teacher and a school - a necessity to them. Then a way shall come whereby you shall give them a school. It is not too much to hope for an I am going to help hope for it some too. May I?
Do you ever wonder why sometimes little Anna calls you “Eddie” and sometimes “Mr. Cayce”? Because I have never yet been able to say “Eddie” like I feel it and want to say it, my own voice sounds disrespectful to me when I use it, and I turn to “Mr. Cayce”. Maybe you have understood. Little Anna seemed so sacred to you I sometimes feel that I trespass upon something sweeter than I can give now - and yet I wish… You understand what I mean?
I think I was no little surprised when in answer to my question on my talents and which to develop, the reply came “an instructor and teacher” to others, a “help-meet” with another, in giving harmony and spiritual light to others.
How can I find my way, Eddie? Seems to me and most others, I guess, I’m so quiet I couldn’t ever TEACH anything? Wish you’d please read that reading and help me.
Sincerely and lovingly, [2072]
P.S. Will copy the clipping and enclose in my next letter. [1861]‘s going to the post office right now.
R2. 7/27/42 EC’s letter to [2072]:
Dear [2072]
Thanks for yours of the 24th - always good to hear from you. Feel just a little closer to something so sacred would never know how to put it into words. It is like a lovely dream to know that it is “little Anna” yet - just moments that one realizes it is true - so think know how you felt and feel at times when you are near, you see I loved - “little Anna” as it is not possible to love any one again - then you are the same - yet not just the same - but wholly the same. Oh yes it is all so contradictory but am sure you understand.
Glad you liked the picture - good that Mother […] likes the looks of me from the picture - its like a fellow going home and first throwing his hat in. If it isn’t thrown out then he can try going in. Have had very little rain so far. Not enough to wet the ground as yet - have had little showers once or twice a bit today but is still very dusty and every thing is so dry. Glad you had nice season there will help late vegetation nicely.
Thank you - would like to help others all possible - and possibly teaching the young is the better way. Yes indeed glad to have your thought and help - and why not you and [1861] teachers when this new school gets under way - can’t imagine any thing more in keeping than seeing [1861] at the head of such a school.
That I would love.
Yes - as said above think I understand, and am sure you get the feel of the emotions as pass through me at times - but know I love you - that will have to suffice just now. Miss Gladys is so busy just now. Will try and read the reading and reply more fully when write again - but why not you a teacher - one has to be sincere 1st then have a purpose in view - and an impersonal one at that - those are the real qualifications - combined with Love for people for His names sake.
But will read the reading and go deeper in to this phase of the reading.
Thanks again and with love for each of you eddie
R3. 8/4/42 (Tuesday) [2072]‘s letter to EC:
Dearest Eddie,
First of all we want to thank you for the so very low number of 19 for There is a River. We did appreciate your enclosing a folder on the book in your last letter. Thank you very, very much.
And for your lovely letter.
I went to Richmond all day last Friday and we had one of the soldiers here all day Sunday and so I haven’t been able to reply to your letter until now. The soldier, Mr. Briant, has been organist for the Episcopal Services the last few Sundays and [1861] and he found so much in common to talk about, we spent a lovely afternoon. He has played the organ for many of the N.Y. churches and for Wanamakers. He is a lovely, intelligent, humble and sincere person. I can think of nothing which fits to describe him so well as “unless ye become as little children ye shall not enter the kingdom of Heaven.” I don’t know exactly why, but it seems to fit him. [1861] and he found their musical loves most alike, and then, to top it off, they both are devotees of TRAINS.
While in Richmond Friday I tried to get some data for [1861] regarding Barney A. Seay. No luck! Letters to N. A. Booker, Hopkinsville, R.F.D., was returned, after travelling 7 routes and not finding Mr. Booker. We then addressed it to Clarksville, Tenn. and it came back unclaimed. The Bureau of Vital Statistics, Henrico County, has no records of births previous to 1853 nor could I find a B. A. Seay listen in their index to records. Investigation in the County Library archives brought forth a record of two “B. A.” Seays, one a Color Bearer in the “14th Regiment Virginia Infantry” known as ‘Painesville Rifles’ of Amelia County” commanded by Capt. Wm. M. Miller or Mills. The other joined the Brigade of Va. Volunteers, under Capt. Gilbert V. Rambants Apr. 18, 1962 at the age of 21 at Suffolk. I wish we could find some other clue somewhere. [1861] was quite disappointed.
I have been thinking lately of the Easter experience with you and the “little folk” on the island. Had you, or I, or both of us, been reading of the Resurrection in the Bible before this came to us? Will you please call this experience back as completely as you can and as detailed as possible for me. Your mention of it in your letter seemed not to tell me very much of it - maybe hoping that I would someday ask to know more of it? Tell me now, please, Eddie.
Guess I will just have to work hard at applying the teachings of Christ and seek and seek and seek within SELF for His guidance in applying the “instructor,” “aiding” “helping” aspect, eh? as per the reading. Seems like wherever, in each incarnation where I came in contact with you, that was my work. Well, I love that work and you, again, if anyone, are helping me back to expressing it.
The school - how I should like to see it come about and how we should both love to serve it or the Association in any way we can, ever!
Wednesday morning
Will you please help me on Answer 6 of my last reading [2072-10, Par. 9- A]. 2nd line: “For, again, the law IS IMPLIED AND IS ACTIVE.” What does this mean?
A.7 [2072-10, Par. 10-A] was not the answer I was wanting as you can see from the question. I believe the reason for same was because of the spiritual nature of the answer preceding it and that the whole reading was more spiritual and mental. The aura chart and symbols didn’t seem to be accessible except the mental explanation of same.
A.11 [2072-10, Par. 14-A] that mother and I were helpers in Palestine; “sisters in spirit, purpose and flesh.” Wasn’t that beautifully expressed? How she keeps, in the present, the ideals that must have been hers then! for she, too, must have been near to the Master. Her words and her thoughts are blessings upon so many. Night before last she was “thankin’ the Lord” for a nice rain that came during the night “so she could set out her iris bulbs.” The other day she expressed an attitude so beautifully and faithfully I want to repeat it to you. [G…] has been worried about getting a place in the Army or service where he can be of the most value. To go in as a “buck” private would not only be hard on him at his age but there must be a place where he could be of more value - with the diverse experience he has had. Altho mother says she hopes his going will be the last sadness for her, she said to him, “Don’t you WORRY about it son. I’ve asked the Lord to put you where you can be of the most help. But that doesn’t mean you must quit lookin’. You must keep on trying to find your place and the Lord will help you.” Those are not her exact words for no one could say them like she does. But HOW MANY correct attitudes were expressed therein!
I think I have received my blessing in being able to live with her and learn from her again in this life-time.
Back to the reading: A.19 [2072-10, Par. 22-A] Yes, how I feel and know that understanding through Christ would be the one thing that would help me to help others, but I have needed the readings very greatly to clarify and guide me on some few false ideas - to straighten the path with that one thing “He is the Way, the Truth, and the Light.” I sought other ways, often forgetting that one beautiful Truth. I’d say you have straightened me out so I can seek HIM, then. May His Blessing abide with thee alway for that.
But I must close. If you read anything else between the lines of the Reading, help me and guide me with it, won’t you?
[1861] is wondering if the Board Reading said “no” regarding him?
Received Miss Patterson’s letter this morning which we thank you for forwarding.
We’ve had two cool days now to break the terrific heat, with a nice rain again this morning. If you still haven’t had rain, Eddie, let us set a time to pray for it together. The need must be very great for it there, by now, and it would help many others as well as yourself.
Deepest love, [2072]
R4. 8/13/42 EC’s letter to [2072]:
Dearest [2072]
Whether am equal to answering yours of the 4th or not - don’t quite know. There are times when think of you and read and reread your letters that I just wouldn’t permit my self to even try and answer - would say many things shouldn’t, so say nothing. Glad you got your order in so as to have a low number if you wished it like that - have passed the 75 mark. Now that is not bad for this short time - tho hope they will be a goodly number. There are certainly scattered tho order yesterday - 2 from Boston - 2 from Seattle - and 1 from Peoria, Ill. That is well distributed, don’t you think?
There are some lovely young men among the soldiers - and it is a real pleasure to find one that has something in common with you - am sure it was a real joy to the young men to find [1861] and to [1861] to find the young man - each will be much better for the meeting.
Am disappointed that you haven’t been able to locate something about B. A. Seay from the records - am sure must be there some where - guess will have to take a hand in this some where - will first chance drop a letter that way and see what can find. Know too well it is all there some where. Why haven’t been able to make connections do not know - but will have something to report to you about that in hope not too far distant.
Yes - I recall the day of special experiences on the little island - very well. There lived back of your fathers place, a family of Pikes, Carter Pike and his wife and two boys John and Carter Jr. John was about 18 while you and I were some 11 or 12. The other boy was much older. There was a spring on the creek bank called Pike’s spring - they kept boats on the river or creek there were a few deep holes in the creek where the boys fished John was very nice to you and I tho both your folks and mine did not like for us to have much to do with these boys. They were sometimes pretty rough - John told us however of the Island and how pretty it was there and offered to lend us his boat for us to visit the Island. We had played often with the little folks in the barn stable and the strawrick near the stables, but had not known the Fairies or the prixies of the water or creek. Do not recall that we had read any thing in particular about these folks before that day. We had taken the little folks as being a very natural occurrence and as have said all through you and I rather curious to believe in such things except my mother and Mr. B. A. each of them thought we were very unusual but a very pretty idea at least - and after the day told you of in the Barn when Mr. B. A. played for us and we told him of the days with the little folk was much easier for you and I
- anyway this day - as I recall it must have been about the time of day we should have been going to S.S. or church but we went exploring and went to the Creek, met John near the spring. He told us again of the Island and lent us his boat to go there. We went - and found it a very lovely beautiful spot - the little folks came almost immediately we landed - soon we builded us a lovely little play house with the help of the little folks. There were then several of them, say some four or five boys and girls like our selves - among the flowers we saw the Fairies for the first time - learned from the little folks the difference between the Fairies and prixies and the Gnomes. There we pledged ourselves to one another for all time, witnessed by the little folks and blessed by the Fairies - sang to by the prixies, and guess we might have stayed on and on but late in the evening we were called home by your Mother and Josie your older sister. Oh yes we went again to the island, and yet again until it was too cold to go - even tho we both got whippings for going, but it was beautiful there - a real fairy land.
Funny - but something was set in motion other day that might
- might I say make it possible for the school to be - so you will have to just begin to get ready to be an instructor in that school when ever it finds a place in the scheme of things.
As to questions Q-6- [2072-10, Par. 9-A] “for again the law is implied - and is active” I understand this to mean - Jesus is the law of GOD made manifest in the earth and when you contact same it is active in your own experience. Just as you have studied some things as would take the place of or make its self equal to Him and there is nothing its equal.
Yes - think you are correct about answer 7 [2072-10, Par. 10-A] - but could do much better talking this out to you than trying to write it - but the answer came back to the symbol of material experience or the manner of application symbolized in the figure given in the chart.
Some how the information chooses some very beautiful ray of expressing an association in other experiences - wish oft that could express my self as well when awake and in a more normal mind.
She certainly has the right frame of mind to my way of thinking - most of us know - but so few can or do attempt to put our whole trust in what we know.
Can the readings help to clarify any approach to the Christ - then it will have been worth while - and most of all for them to be able to be a sure footing or help to you - just makes me doubly happy.
We haven’t really had the board reading as yet [2072]. Have felt so sure of the reading verifying the judgement taken that day spontaneously haven’t done that but will try and do that this week possibly tomorrow - but will let you know what it says.
Rain - my what an armful we are having just now - in His own way has come and is lovely. Too late for most of the garden but will save the trees and the grass am sure - thanks again for every thing - hope some time to have the chance to talk this reading over with you and let you ask your questions from one line to another if you will.
With love to each of you
a Kiss for little Anna Eddie
R5. 9/6/42 [2072]‘s letter to EC:
Dearest Eddie,
Thank you for your letter.
Eddie, I have been reading Exodus and Leviticus and I certainly would like to be able to understand the reason for God’s giving the laws of the sacrificing of the animals (or offerings, should one say?) to the Children of Israel. It seems such a strange God that asks these offerings, that uses blood to sanctify the altar, etc. What is the meaning of all this, for if God required it it must have a reason? Do you have a reading on this that I might borrow to read? I don’t know when anything has ever worried me so much. It’s so strange, so utterly bewildering!
Also what is the meaning of “40 days and 40 nights” so often used? Is it to be taken literally, or symbolically, or was it just a term for an unknown or indefinite length of time?
Are there any readings or notes from readings, that Gladys could mail me to read, explaining any portions or dates of the Old Testament? I would certainly appreciate, take good care of, and return them safely. But I certainly do need them now. Will you please ask her?
I hope you and Mrs. Cayce are both well.
All too soon [1861] will be going back to teaching again. It seems like summer flies faster with each year.
What interesting things have been happening with you, with readings, with members, with books, etc? We’re always glad to hear.
We have about two more Church publications to write to [in re Search for God]. I shall send the addresses as soon as we get the letters off.
Enclosed is check for Glad Helpers.
Very lovingly, [2072]
R6. 9/9/42 EC’s letter to [2072]:
Dearest [2072]
Always good to hear from you - some how your letter reminds me of so long ago, you still feel I should solve every problem for you. That is a lot of confidence, and just wish I could - yes, the reading of the laws and ordinances as recorded in Exodus and Leviticus when one takes it from the reasoning of today becomes not only hard reading but very disturbing at times, one wonders if there is even sufficient ceremony about our attempted worship today. But the “shedding of blood” you see it is all tied up with the first commandment to man. “Thou shall not eat of the tree of Good and Evil - in the day ye eat thereof ye shall surely DIE - and to die physically meant shedding of or stopping of the blood flow. Then the animal sacrifice was only a symbol of the death of The Christ - there is no changing the law - no changing God’s Blessings or His anger - save as compliance with law. Now law is Love - Love is law - yet there is no remission of Sins without the shedding of blood. Hence the necessity of Jesus The Christ shedding His blood for us.
In the study of the Bible we have notes on this portion of same. You can get them by writing to Mae Verhoeven care this office. She is as you possibly recall the secy of the Bible Group - also S.S.
40 is a symbolic number - meaning with out number almost
- yet is typifying the combination of the body also - as related to body-mind and soul.
Mrs. Cayce is in Ky at present - been there for a week will stay another week or so. She needed a good rest - I am pretty well think my little layoff did me a lot of good. Yes
- time has a way of getting away - and the older we get the faster it seems to get away.
Nothing particularly of interest - every thing is tho really interesting. Just some times more than others.
Thanks for the contribution to Glad Helpers - but please know you are not expected to pay each month unless you just wish to do so. Appreciate it but it is not compulsory. Wish you were here for the meeting this afternoon. Just hope you are fine - believe you will find the data on the Bible [Tuesday Night Bible Group Minutes taken down in shorthand and transcribed by GD, then mimeographed by Mae Verhoeven (later referred to as IMG)] worth reading. Several have told us we have made those parts of Lev. Numb. and the like living truth and not just a matter of routine or mystery.
Try one or two of them and see what you make of them. Choose any chapters you like and think will find something on each of them.
Thanks again for every thing - wish could have about two weeks of just talking with you from day to day.
With love to each of you eddie
R7. 9/13/42 (Sunday evening) [2072]‘s letter to EC:
Dearest Eddie,
Thank you for the answers regarding the Bible. Maybe after I have read through the Bible I will be able to understand much better. I hope so.
Oh I’m really sorry I have such a questioning mind and must ask you so many questions but it’s so very good to have someone who can help one with such questions (for you have studied them before me) and I know of no one whom I so like to take my questions to. Forgive me, please, for so many questions. There is no one who has studied the Bible so much as you, and certainly no one I know of who knows of and has studied reincarnation in relation to same.
I’m studying Deuteronomy now.
Thank you for suggesting the notes of the Bible Class. I’m sure they shall be most interesting and helpful.
How nice for Mrs. Cayce to have a vacation. She deserved it and it will do her much good, I know.
We had a lovely and thoughtful letter from the Dillmans this last week and they sent us the print of [1861] and myself. Thought it was certainly sweet of them.
How are Sally and Hugh Lynn? and when may we all be expecting to hear of the arrival of a new little Cayce? Is it this month or next?
Back to the Bible: I find it not nearly so hard to read now as it seemed to be to me when I was younger. I never realized it as a continuous story before. Certain events stood out as single stories but it isn’t until now I link them all together. I think something I used to hear my grandfather say had influenced me, or prejudiced me, too greatly, that the old Testament was full of fighting and an angry and jealous God. He did not like the OLD Testament. But, now I see it should be read and even helps one understand the new Testament. Heretofore I have picked up the Bible and read a little here and there and gathered only a slight meaning.
Can you explain a little more fully what you mean by “40 typifying the combination of the body as related to body, mind and soul”?
Has it ever been given as to who Moses became in other incarnations? Job? Solomon?
I must close for tonight. I wish we could sit down and talk
- yes - EVERY day. Oh, I’m afraid I’d wear you out wanting you to talk and answer questions. But I can think of nothing nicer than to just be with you for a week or two and just let you talk whenever you wished, for you always have so many interesting things to say. What an interesting and worthwhile life yours has been.
Lovingly, [2072]
R8. 9/16/42 EC’s letter to [2072]:
Dearest [2072]
Good to hear from you again. Believe you will get much from the Bible notes and am anxious to know your reaction. While have tried to make a careful study of the Bible for years, know am not so good. Have with the help of the readings been able to get much more from same. Just whether have gotten off on the right foot or not - is what bothers me now and then, but for my self the way we read it answers - when it never did before. Do not mean this as bragging, but had a very good illustration of this with last S. lesson - there was an elderly man in the class who has been a minister for years, in fact is retired now. He said to me after the lesson “Well my friend you do make the old testament a living word again. You present it as a living thing, which God’s word is and the Old as well as the New is His word, but most of us have failed to see it.”
A very lovely compliment, but realize I deserve no credit for it, for it is the work of the readings, and must again be HIS word - or the readings are all wrong.
Like your questions [2072] - only regret I haven’t always the time to write what would like to say, and abbreviating it doesn’t do the question or the answer justice - could only be done properly by having the time to talk it out, but when together too many other things often crowd in for their manifestation, so you keep right on asking - possibly will get it out of me by piecemeals, as many of the group tell me.
I do not know a couple who are doing more real good than the Dillmans Gladys & Charles Dillman] in their quiet easy way no ostentation whatever, just really lovely lovely people. I love them as if they were my very own, and am sure they think lots of me. Sally and H. L. are fine, Sally is taking care of the house while Gertrude is away, and doing a lovely job of it. Think they expect the little stranger by or before the middle of next Month.
Will be interesting to know what character they attract to them. Have had several dreams about it of late - and am afraid to even mention it to them. Don’t know that they would be pleased or not.
No - when we read the Bible as a history we lose the real purpose it seems to me, do we think of the characters as, periods through which we as individuals pass. It is different, then when we read ordinances they are directed to our imagination of unfoldment and not as ritual that was rarely adhered to by any of the people to whom they were given - and when they are taken as ritual it doesn’t relieve, merely bypasses a crisis for some individual and we realize it is the spirit and not the letter of the law that is so important and the Ritual is a symbol and not an activity - rarely at all.
40 - here is one of those questions it would take pages to try and tell you and to abbreviate it - makes it possibly useless. Let’s say we leave that until some time when can talk to you about it - but let’s take this to think of. The story of the Bible all through is the story of a HUMAN body. Each character then representing some characteristic of a body - each phase of an existence or consciousness is depicted in some one or an other character is the development through say the early years, another through adolescence, and so on so the whole thing is our own selves depicted for us in the lives of others. Recorded by men ordained for that work. But have to run now - as ever time for work.
Bye now - with love to each of you. eddie
R9. 9/20/42 (Sunday) [2072]‘s letter to EC:
Dear Eddie,
Here are two more addresses of persons to whom we have sent letters today:
Rev. Eugene Olive, Editor Biblical Recorder Wake Forest, N.C.
Mr. Charles Clayton Morrison Editor, The Christian Century 407 So. Dearborn St. Chicago, Ill.
I have just been scanning the N.Y. Times “List of Books Promised for Fall” expecting to find “There is a River,” but was unable to find it listed.
Thank you for your letter.
Are you getting some cooler weather today? We have had two terribly hot days and nights, but clouds and a cool wind have relieved greatly today.
We thought you might like to know that the student ([2829]) to whom [1861] gave a copy of “A Search for God” this summer said she had used a portion of the book on a Church program of some kind and has loaned the book to a girl friend to read. She again said she like the book very much. Miss [2829] is a lovely person - President of the Y.W.C.A. at College, active in Methodist Church work and has been working this summer as cashier in the … Tea Room to pay for her education.
[1861] and I are due for some re-check physical readings soon after the 30th of September. Would you please give us an appointment date for any afternoon thereafter.
I suppose Mrs. Cayce is home by now. I hope that she had a very nice trip and vacation. Give her my love.
Have just started reading I Samuel now.
One question that came to my mind recently was: Could it be that John the Baptist was Moses and also Jacob? Another: Do the twelve disciples have any relation to the twelve tribes of Israel?
I will close now so [1861] can take this to mail.
Goodnight, and my love, [2072]
R10. 9/24/42 EC’s letter to [2072]:
Dearest [2072]
Thanks for yours of the 20th - have mailed the books to the two addresses sent me - Rev. Eugene Olive and Mr. Morrison. Are having very nice comments from several people over the country. Think that “There is a River” being a special edition may not be listed as yet they will possible take notice of it in the regular edition. We wish to if possible as am sure you gathered from the reading on same make the demand so great from the special edition that most will wish to read the book.
Yes - turned cold with a vengeance on Monday. Was 40 degrees cooler than on Sunday at the same hour. Like it the sun is bright and warms up during the day and gets cool at night, makes good nights to sleep.
Thanks for the report from the (student). That is the type person we hope to reach, for their influence on so many others.
I may have to be out of town for day or so about the 1st. May be best if I give you the period for your check readings in the next letter else might have to change it, but won’t you be able to come down for those. It is about time was seeing you again don’t you think??
Mrs. C. got home last evening. Yes were all glad to see her, but think Sally and H. L., especially Sally is beginning to feel a bit uncomfortable am sure to have to attend to any housekeeping, but says she feels fine. Yes, she had nice trip. Had trouble breaking her glasses. That gave her a bad time but she is feeling pretty good.
John the Baptist was Elijah - the last chapter of Malachi tells you so in so many words - 4 - chapter and 5th verse, then Jesus tells his disciples in Matt 17 and 12 that who it is. So don’t think he was Moses also. Yes - Jesus told the multitude that the 12 would judge the 12 tribes so it is numbers here or answers to the 12 centers of emotion in body. For is as said in last - it is not chance there are given three patriarches. They represent definite conditions of our body - they are personal as well as mental and spiritual, they are conditions of consciousness in our lives unfoldments, but too much of a discussion to try and write just now - will try and some time give you what it means to me, but that does not necessarily mean they should mean just that to you.
Thanks again for everything.
With love to you both Eddie
R11. 10/1/42 She submitted questions.
R12. 10/3/42 See 2072-11, a Check Physical Reading.
Background
Background
B1. See 2072-8.
B2. 7/22/42 A.M. See 2072-9, a Check Physical Reading.
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Index (LLM-extracted)
Summary
A psychic reading for a 32-year-old woman exploring past incarnations (Atlantean, Egyptian, Persian, Palestine), the Tuaoi stone, the Ra-Ta mark, relationships with named individuals, talents, and spiritual attunement symbols.
People: J. William Lloyd, Uhjltd, Ra Ta, Samuel, Harry, Alice, Thelma, Del, 2441, 1861
Places: Atlantis, Egypt, Persia, Palestine, Attica, Indiana, Virginia Beach
Concepts: past-life in Atlantis, past-life in Egypt, past-life in Persia, past-life in Palestine, Tuaoi stone, Ra-Ta mark, aura chart, kundaline forces
Referenced readings: 2072-1, 2072-7, 2072-8, 2072-9, 2072-11
Mentioned Entities
Entity (Cayce Term), Incarnation, Jesus Christ, John (Apostle), Purpose, Egypt, Law of Moses, Gertrude Cayce, Ideal, Palestine, Atlantis, Ra Ta, Soul, A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment), Gladys Davis, Initiation, Old Covenant, Aura, Moses, Photography (Atlantean)
Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 2072-10, ReadingID 8664.