Reading 4358-2

TEXT OF READING 4358-2 F 35

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Date: 4/22/1925 Sex: F Age: 35 ReadingID: 12189

This Psychic Reading given by Edgar Cayce at his office, 322 Grafton Avenue, Dayton, Ohio, this 22nd day of April, 1925, in accordance with request made by self, Mrs. [4358].

[Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno.]

Rural Route #1, Time of Reading 5 miles North of 11:00 A. M. Dayton Time. …, Mo.

1. GC: You will answer questions as I ask them regarding the physical condition of this body.

2. EC: Now, we find the general conditions in the body improving, yet there are many abnormal conditions in this body that need correction, and many of these may be corrected through the proper according to conditions necessary for improvement of same. Ready for questions.

3. (Q) What causes this body so much suffering in the left shoulder blade and arm? (A) There are lesions formed in the upper dorsal region, produced by the improper distribution of dross or refuse forces in the body, this causing pressure on the nerve plexuses governing the portion of the body brings the distress. None out of place, save as is produced by lesions. By the removing of these conditions, as we shall see, we would gradually relieve these conditions in body, or when pain is acute this may be applied to the body with beneficial effects to the body:

Take saturated solution of Epsom Salts and put on the body in a thin cloth. Then apply heat as would be found in mixture of corn meal and salt to this portion. This we find will relieve, that is, to the dorsal region, between the shoulders, arm and over portion, upper portion of arm. This is for local treatment when pains are severe.

4. (Q) What causes the hurting near the spine on the left side near the shoulder blade? (A) Lesion, as given.

5. (Q) What can be done to relieve the stiffness in elbows, wrists and knees, also jaws? (A) This, as we see, is the production of conditions as have been described and given in the body. By giving the properties in the system, keeping those, much the general condition as we have given, then applying this:

Give manipulations, osteopathically and neuropathically (that is, correct where lesions are in such a condition as may be corrected, and massage where lesions are such as corrections and impingements cannot be corrected until the body is relaxed), every other day, and every other treatment, or after every other treatment, massage well into the spine (whole length, arms, limbs, around the joints) those properties of Balsam of Sulfur, taking also this:

To 1 pint (8 ounces) [(16 ounces) - See 4358-2, Par. R5] of distilled water, add 12 grains Chloride of Gold, with 20 grains Bicarbonate of Soda. The dose would be beginning with 2 drops, taking once each day, preferably in evenings. Gradually increase from 5 drops (one each day) until 20 drops are being taken. Then skip one day and begin with the 5 drops, gradually increasing until 20 drops are being taken. Skip again. This will assist with the other properties as being taken, and will assist in the eliminations in system. Necessary that when this is being taken there is an evacuation of the bowels each day, though necessary to take a cathartic or enema, preferably enemas of oil would be taken, giving the properties of oil as is found in Usoline, Nujol or such natures, or as would be found in the combination of Magnesia and Petroleum Oils, or Petrolager in any form.

6. (Q) Will an operation be necessary on any of the bones of this body before it will be able to walk? (A) Not if the suggestions as given are carried out.

7. (Q) What foods should this body be fed to obtain best results for a speedy recovery? (A) Green vegetable foods. Only fish or fowl as meats. Preferably all vegetables that grow above ground rather than those below ground.

8. (Q) Can the bowels of this body be made to function regularly each day without the aid of cathartics or syringe? (A) Not until we get the system functioning more normal. Best that these be kept but changed from time to time by taking of the proper lubricants for the system, without so much of the cathartics, using enemas of oil, or high enemas of oil and water, changing from the Nujol or Usoline to Olive oil, taking olive and other mineral oils as lubricants and foods for the system, all the olive oil the body can take, without producing a retraction, or without becoming rancid, would be well for the system.

Follow these out. Be consistent, be persistent with the suggestions as given, and we will find we will bring the better conditions for this body.

9. We are through for the present.

Reports

Reports & Follow-up

R1. 4/22/25 EC’s letter:

Mrs. [4358] …, Mo.

My dear Mrs. [4358]

I beg your pardon for not answering yours of the 9th any sooner. However, I’ve been unable to get to this before this morning. I’m certainly glad to know that you feel that you’re improving and I certainly am in hopes that the enclosed reading will prove of a great deal of benefit and help to you, and I believe, with what you have already gotten, that the added suggestions at this time will prove very beneficial.

Thank you for your attitude towards the Work and your desire to contribute towards same, for as you understand we depend entirely upon the good graces of those whom we try to be of service to, to contribute sufficient to take care of myself and family, besides the two assistants that are necessary to have to obtain the readings.

I’m in hopes, then, that this will prove the means of your gaining your normal health. Will certainly be very glad to hear from you from time to time.

You will please fill out the enclosed form and return as soon as convenient, for we desire, as investigators, to keep as clear record of results, whether good or bad, that are obtained in every reading we send out.

Hoping this finds you feeling a great deal better, and with kindest personal regards.

Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD

R2. 5/1/25 [4358]‘s response to survey:

ASSOCIATION OF NATIONAL INVESTIGATORS

(This form to be filled out and returned after reading is received)

NAME Mrs. [4358]

ADDRESS …, Mo.

AGE 35

SEX Woman

MARRIED OR SINGLE Married 13 1/2 years ago separated after 3 yrs.

NATIONALITY American

REMARKS

(You will please state in the space below how near, in your opinion, reading fits your condition, as you know it yourself, and if you expect to carry out the suggestions made for the improvement of your health.)

I think this reading fits my condition pretty well, as I know there are impinged nerves in the upper dorsal region. And I aim to carry out the suggestions just as near as I can. Should I go on taking the medicine I have been taking or should I stop it when I begin the new reading.

R3. 5/4/25 EC’s letter:

My dear Mrs. [4358]

I want to thank you very much for your cooperation with the Association in returning your form. I’m glad to know that you seem to think the reading fits your condition and that you intend carrying out the suggestions as are made. I am quite sure the suggestion for the medicinal properties is to be kept up, for as I understand the readings, the first quantities that you were to take of the medicinal properties were to prepare your system so that same would respond to the other treatments. Hence the eliminations would be much faster by the combination of the two treatments, and I’m certainly in hopes that you will be greatly benefited by these, which I’m sure you will be.

I want to thank you also for your contribution towards the work of the Association. I’m certainly in hopes that you’ll let us hear from you from time to time, and you know if we can possibly be of service, we desire to do so.

With kindest personal regards,

Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD

R4. 5/5/25 [4358]‘s letter:

…, Mo.

Mr. Edgar Cayce,

Am writing you in regards to the prescription I am to take. I will copy it as you have it. To 1 pint (8 ounces) of distilled water, add 12 grains Chloride of Gold, with 20 grains Bicarbonate of soda. The dose would be beginning with 2 drops, taking one each day, preferably in evenings. Gradually increase from 5 drops (one each day) until 20 drops are being taken. Then skip one day and begin with the 5 drops, gradually increasing until 20 drops are being taken. Skip again. I understand it that 1 pint is equal to 8 ounces, but I think it is a mistake, isn’t there 16 ounces in a pint, and which should I use 1 pint or 8 ounces and how long should I take 2 drops or should I begin with 5.

I have tried the Epsom salts for the pain and it is fine.

Hoping to hear soon from you as I am ready to begin this reading, and should I keep on taking the medicine I have previously been taking in first reading.

I am respectively Mrs. [4358] …, Mo.

R5. 5/11/25 EC’s letter:

Mrs. [4358] …, Mo.

Dear Mrs. [4358]

I have yours of the 5th. In this prescription, this should be 16 ounces distilled water, 12 grains Chloride of Gold, with 20 grains Bicarbonate of Soda, then taken as you have outlined. The dosage would be, beginning with 2 drops, increasing the dose 1 drop each day until 20 drops are being taken. Then when you begin after skipping the day, when 20 drops is taken, begin with the 5 and increasing 1 drop each day until the 20 drops is taken, then begin over again the same way.

I’m certainly glad to know that you are getting some results from the use of the Epsom Salts packs. Yes, you should take the internal medicine, all of it, while you’re taking the other treatment.

Hoping this will prove a satisfactory explanation, and that you will get results from following out these suggestions, trusting you will let us hear from you from time to time.

Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD

R6. 8/3/25 [4358]‘s letter:

Mr. Edgar Cayce,

Dear Sir,

I received a letter a month or so ago from the investigating association wishing to know how I was getting along, but at that time I couldn’t tell how the medicine was going to work, but I think now it will give splendid results. If everything can be carried out as suggested, I am not financially able to go to a hospital, or place where I could receive the real osteopath treatments. My mother give me massages the best she can, but I am improving. I am getting stronger in my back and arms, also legs. Really I can feel I am gaining in strength and flesh in my whole body. I am taking the medicine as directed all the time. I raise up on crutches and can tell I am getting stronger in my legs can bear more weight on my feet than I could before beginning the treatments in last of April. If there was some charitable institution not so far from here that would give those massages as suggested that I could go to? I know I could get on my feet again. My mother does the best she can by me considering her condition she is most 63 years old and does all her house work tends chickens and milk and helps me all she can. She is not very well and has a weak wrist so I consider I am doing pretty well under the circumstances. But I am ever hoping and praying that I may be well some day. I sent your name & address to a cousin of mine who is suffering from diabetes pleading with him to let you make a reading for him. His name is Mr. […] at Everton, Mo. From this on I will try and write you once each month letting you know how I am progressing. I never had to use the Epsom Salts poultice but once it did the work. I remain Mrs. [4358] …, Mo.

R7. 3/25/26 [4358]‘s letter:

…, Mo.

Mr. Edgar Cayce Dayton, Ohio

Dear Sir,

I will write you again. It has been some time since I wrote. I am feeling very well considering things. At present I am having hay fever, not suffering any but quite annoying. My back has quite an uncomfortable feeling, it just itches all over. The entire length of my spine and from shoulder to shoulder have been that way for about two or 3 weeks. Have just received a new bottle of Balsam of Sulphur and began using it didn’t know if it had anything to do with it or not just feels like a parasite under the skin wiggling and the surface skin at times feels like it is cracking open but my skin isn’t the least bit red or pimples on it just smooth. I just began on a new bottle of blood prescription. Since last wrote you I had an awful narrow escape of blood poison in my left foot caused from cutting a toenail too short. I suffered a good deal with it but am all right now. Lost my toenail but is all healed nicely but took about 10 weeks then during that time I had scarlet fever in a light form. Did not go to bed for it. But think I am holding my own well. I am gaining in strength, can get along much faster & easier with my fancy work. I am planning on going to St. Louis to the Baptist Sanatarium about 1st or middle of May as a charity patient. Do you think this advisable. I thought I could get along faster. I can’t get your suggestions worked out other wise. If you wish to make another reading it will be all right. I am in same place. Good bye.

R8. 4/6/26 EC’s letter:

Mrs. [4358] …, Mo.

My dear Mrs. [4358]:-

I’m in receipt of yours of the 25th, and as you will notice from the letter, we have changed the base of our operations from Dayton, Ohio, to Virginia Beach, Va., where we will eventually have our institution, as has often been given us in our readings. I’m very glad to hear from you, and to know that you feel you are somewhat on the improve, though I’m sorry to know that you are being troubled with hay fever - rather unusual for this time of year. As for the itching, the Balsam of Sulphur may have something to do with this. However, I believe that you will realize this is rather a good sign, though it may be somewhat annoying, for it insures you that the circulation is being improved. Now, if it can be only directed in its proper channels, why it would be very much better. It’ll be mighty well to keep up that blood prescription that you may not have any eruptions or abrasions from this increased circulation. I am very much of the opinion that your stay in the sanitarium would be very beneficial to you, and if you are so fortunate as to have the physician who would cooperate with what you have been doing for yourself, through these suggestions, why I think it would be fine. At that time, I think we should have another reading; or, if you desire that we make it right away, why we will make the appointment and see whether this would be necessary or not. I’m also sending you, under separate cover, a little pamphlet concerning our work, which I hope you will find interesting and helpful. I’m sure you will gain from same the full intent and purport of our efforts.

Hoping to hear form you again real soon,

Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD

R9. 5/1/26 [4358]‘s letter:

…, Missouri

Mr. Edgar Cayce

Dear Sir. Am writing you again about making the reading.

Guess just as well make it now. I written about going to the sanitarium, but they didn’t think they could [do] my case any good, wrote like they only used medical practice there, but in their advertising they claim they use the best scientific methods of treatments. I told them my trouble was in my joints but none was rigid. They said they thought my case was past medical aid, but not even ask me to come for examination. I think the reason I was turned down was because I would of had to been a free patient. It was the Missouri Baptist sanitarium, supported by the Baptist of Missouri. I am very sorry about it. I have been feeling very well since I wrote you last. I had to quit the Balsam of Sulphur on my spine it seemed to effect my nerves. I use it on my joints allright. I am still taking the Chloride of gold also blood medicine. I have such a time getting the blood medicine I never can get two bottles fixed alike. They either want to leave something out or put something in as a substitute. My head feels dull in the back part sometimes, and my nose seems to be stopped up. I have three decayed teeth I think ought to be pulled but I can’t get my mouth open wide enough to pull one jaw tooth. Seems like my lower jaw is back farther than it ought to be. I can’t bite my front teeth together at all. Do you really think that I can get alright again. You are the only one that seems to take any interest in trying to help me. And nobody but me and my God know how I appreciate it. I feel that you are trying to fill God’s commandments in helping the poor, the sick and afflicted. Warm weather is now here. I was building great hopes in getting along fast, this summer. I am so much stronger than I was when I first begin to have you make readings for me. Can you see anything in the future for me but invalidism. I so long to be on my feet again. I would be willing to go through most anything to get on them. I am ready for the reading to be made. Guess I won’t get to go to the hospital yet. I will hope to do the best I can for awhile but I have warm weather which will help a lot. I am enclosing a dollar for part payment.

I thank you a thousand times for what you have already done for me and may God bless you.

I am respectively Mrs. [4358] 5 miles north …, Mo.

R10. 5/6/26 EC’s letter:

Mrs. [4358] …, Mo.

Dear Mrs. [4358]

Replying to yours of the 1st, we will take up your case again about the latter part of this month. I am sorry that this finds us so well dated up, but we will get this at the first opportunity. I am sorry to know that you were not able to get the advantage of the treatment at the hospital, but we are certainly very much in hopes that we may be able to be of some assistance to you through the reading.

Assuring you of our desire to try and be of some help, and appreciating your position and condition, and trusting we may be of service, and hoping that you won’t feel we are neglecting you, on account of having to put this off, with best wishes and kindest personal regards,

Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD

R11. 5/25/26 See 4358-3.

Background

Background

B1. See 4358-1.

Mentioned Entities

Baking Soda, Dayton Ohio, Epsom Salts, Gold Chloride, Ohio, Massage Therapy, Olive Oil, A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment), Gertrude Cayce, Gladys Davis, Osteopathy, Poultice, Prayer, Virginia Beach

Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 4358-2, ReadingID 12189.