TEXT OF READING 507-1
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Date: 2/3/1934 Sex: M ReadingID: 3632
This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at the home of Mr. and Mrs. Ernest W. Zentgraf, 400 St. Paul”s Ave., Stapleton, S.I., N.Y., this 3rd day of February, 1934, in accordance with request made by those present - and by self, Mrs. Eileen Garrett, new Associate Member of the Ass”n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc., recommended by Mrs. T. Mitchell Hastings.
[Edgar Cayce; Hugh Lynn Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Eileen Garrett; Margaret Naumberg; T. Mitchell Hastings; Helene, Ernest, Robert, Margret and Lilian Zentgraf; Eleanor and Adolph Ostwald.]
33 West 51st Time of Reading Street, 11:50 to 12:25 P. M. Eastern Standard Time. N.Y.C.
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HLC: Now you will have before you the soul entity now known as Eileen Garrett, present in this room. You will give at this time such information regarding her work which will be interesting and helpful in relation to our experiments today. You will answer the questions which I will ask.
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EC: Yes, we have the entity, the soul entity, Eileen Garrett, here, present in this room.
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As to that which may be helpful to those that seek to know that there is the continuity of life, that there is to be gained from those activities in the realm of soul forces that may act through the psychic forces in each individual soul, know that that which may be given through this entity is that which is received through the varied channels that present themselves in that atmosphere or that environ that seeks for an understanding in those fields of activity that may bring to the manifested actions of individuals those influences that may have to bear upon the lives and souls of individuals.
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As to how, to whom, or from what sources these emanations or activities may take their action, depends upon first the sincerity of purpose, as to whether it is to be constructive in the experience of such seekers or whether through self there is to be the aggrandizement of power, influence or force upon and in the experience. For, as ye sow, so shall ye reap.
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As there are only those influences in self that may separate the knowledge of the constructive influence in the life; so only self may find those influences through such a channel that will be to meet the needs of those things necessary in self’s experience for the greater development.
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Ready for questions.
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(Q) Explain how this information is now being given for Mrs. Garrett, the source of this information. (A) Being given through that which has been builded in the life and the experience of Mrs. Garrett, and taken from those records made by such activities.
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(Q) What is the source of Mrs. Garrett’s psychic information? (A) A portion is from the soul development of the entity, that has made and does make for a channel through which spiritual or psychic forces may manifest in a material world; and thus giving that to which the seekers may find in their own particular field of activity. Also from those influences from without that are either in those attitudes of being teachers, instructors, directors, or those that would give to those in the material plane the better comprehension of the continuance of a mental and soul activity.
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(Q) For what purpose was this power given to her? (A) That there might be given, as it were, the opportunity for the soul to use that it had builded within self to make for a manifestation in a material world of those influences that are without and within. For, as has been given, the spirit maketh alive - and the kingdom of truth and light is within. With the abilities that are manifested through this soul entity, of subjugation of the influences from the material or carnal influences of experience, making then for self a channel through which there may come those forces or sources from the source of ALL supply. For, the Father giveth ever the increase, whether in material things, mental understanding or spiritual comprehension of that which is within thine own realm or ken.
When these then are used or abused, in such manners as to be used only for self indulgencies, self-aggrandizement, the fruits of these must be contention and strife, inharmony and the like.
As has ever been in all experiences, like begets like. For, the purposes, the desires, are both spiritual and carnal, and as to the soul development of same is as to what are the fruits of such activities. “By their fruits ye shall know them,” whether they be of those that make for tares in the experiences of the souls of men, or whether they be of wheat or some other grain that maketh for an increase in the activities of such individuals in their associations with their fellow man. For, in the material world may there only be used in spirit that which creates for the spiritual life. And as ye do unto your fellow man, so may the activity of the individual be in that line, as to whether it fulfils those purposes for which it came into being, with those talents that have been developed through the experiences of the entity in its application of truth, life and understanding to material things.
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(Q) How can Mrs. Garrett develop her ability to the highest degree? (A) By keeping self in accord in the inner self with that which is the highest that may manifest itself through the abilities and faculties of the soul body. Thus may it give to the seeker, thus may it give to those that would knock; for, as He has promised ever, if ye seek in the light of thine understanding, trusting in Him for the increase, so may this attitude being kept ever within self make for self being that channel through which only the constructive influences may come into the experience of the seeker.
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(Q) Do Mrs. Garrett’s psychic powers depend on previous development? If so, describe the development which made this present manifested ability possible. (A) As has been indicated, depends upon much that has been soul development of the entity. And during those experiences when there were those in the lands now known as the Arabian and Persian, when there was the comprehension of the application of the truths in the spiritual relations of the souls of men, with the constructive influences in the activities of individuals, during those days and periods when those activities known as the Zoroastrian were active in the peoples of the land. The entity then was not only an instructor, a teacher, one that gave much to aid peoples at that period when the fires of life had burned low, but the entity made for the awakening within the hearts and minds of many those relationships that should exist between the creative influences in the spiritual realms with the activities among men. Hence a guide, a teacher, that aided much in those experiences, aids in manifesting to those that seek to see materializations of those forces that would make for presenting of lessons, of tenets, of the various theses of understanding in the experiences of individuals.
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(Q) Who are Mrs. Garrett’s spiritual guides, and tell us something about them? (A) Let them rather speak for themselves through that channel that is capable rather of presenting them in their light to that which has been the development of the soul itself in its experiences in the earth in the realms of their activity. For, their names are rather in HER experience, in HER seeking, than to find through other channels; even though they may be coming from the records that are made by each in their activity. Speak for thyself.
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(Q) What counsel have you for Mrs. Garrett’s spiritual development? (A) Present self in thine own inner conscience in such a way and manner that answers for the conscience within self of its own soul development. And as the soul remains true to that which is its ideal from within, it may never give that other than constructive in its speech with those that seek to know the mysteries of soul and self-development; that has made of itself a channel through which men may approach those mysteries of life, and their activities in the minds, the hearts and the souls of men.
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(Q) Is Mrs. Garrett contacting the highest possible sources for information in accordance with her development? (A) As the soul seeks, higher and higher may be those influences of the activities in the experience for the DEVELOPMENT of others in THEIR approach to such realms. When the soul seeks for self, for self’s own protection and for self’s own activities, it reaches the highest that is for that soul’s development. When the self is open to those that would question or would counsel with, dependent upon the desire, the purposes, the aims, as to from what source or channel; as it does for ANY soul that has opened itself for the activities of those influences that are in and about a material world. Yet for the self, for the soul’s protection, for the abilities, it seeks, it contacts that which is sufficient unto the needs of the soul in its development.
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(Q) Is there any way in which Mrs. Garrett may be of special service to the work of Edgar Cayce? (A) As their channels of activity cross or run one into another, in the various phases of experience, there may be those aids that will be for the common good of all. Rather than that it may aid any individual work as of Edgar Cayce or any other source. Rather those who give themselves (as both may be found to be doing) for the common good of mankind, as they merge in their efforts in these directions, may there be the aids rather one for the other. For, as has been given, in the union there is strength; whether this be applied in those things pertaining to the least in the earth or the greater in the realm of the spiritual activity. Hence, as each in clear purpose of desire to be of aid to their fellow man, not for self - but that the glory of God may be manifested in the hearts and souls of men, THUS may each aid the other. For, as He has given, whether in body, in mind or spirit, ye come seeking to make known the love of the Father in the earth to the sons of men, ye may aid one another.
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(Q) Would you explain why Edgar Cayce uses this method of hypnosis for going into trance? (A) That as has oft been given, from the physical development, or physical-mental development of the body, it has become necessary that there be the entire removal of the physical forces and physical attributes from the mental and spiritual and soul forces of the entity, to seek that through that built in the SOUL-body of the entity it may contact that which may be constructive in the experiences of those to whom such sources or such supplies of information may be brought.
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(Q) How did it arise? Was it accident, or some entity or group suggest this plan? (A) Soul development, rather. And the ability to, through those experiences in the earth in the varied activities, lay aside the consciousness that the soul and the spirit and the truth might find its way through to the seeker.
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(Q) Do you suggest that trance is a useful method for help? (A) Trance to the individual is as the necessary stimuli for each soul in its own development. There be those who may through their intuitive activity, that has subjugated the influences in the material, allow the mental soul to manifest. There be those who through looking into the past, or into the aura, or into all or any of those things that are as witnesses about every soul that walks through this vale. For, those that may lay aside the veil, in whatever form or manner, may make for the approach of aiding those in seeking to know that necessary in their development in the present experience.
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(Q) If Edgar Cayce has ever had controls, does he know who they are? (A) Anyone may speak who may seek, if the entity or the soul’s activities will allow same; or if the desire of the individuals seeking so over commands as to make for a set channel.
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(Q) Is Edgar Cayce clairvoyant in the hypnotic state? (A) More so in the normal or physical state than in the hypnotic state; though ALL are one when in perfect accord with the universal forces from which the records of all activities may be taken.
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(Q) If Edgar Cayce goes into trance without any control, could he not in a waking state get the inspiration direct? (A) Not until there has been a more perfect cleansing of the carnal influences in the experiences of the soul, as has been indicated. With the regeneration that should come into the experience of the entity, this then may be the manner, the channel, the way through which much of constructive forces may be given.
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(Q) What entity is giving this information now? (A) Being directed, as has been indicated, from the records through Halaliel.
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We are through.
Copy to Mrs. Garrett ” ” Mrs. Zentgraf ” ” Ass’n file
Reports
Reports & Follow-up
R1. See 254-71, Par. 12-A—14-A re Uvani’s message in 507-1 Reports, Par. R2 below.
R2. Saturday afternoon, February 3, 1934, 3:45 to 5:05 o’clock, at the home of Mr. and Mrs. Ernest W. Zentgraf, 400 St. Paul’s Avenue, Stapleton, S.I., N.Y., message received through Mrs. Eileen Garrett.
PRESENT: Eileen Garrett; Hugh Lynn Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno.; Edgar Cayce, Margaret Naumberg, Helene, Ernest, Robert, Margret and Lilian Zentgraf, Eleanor and Adolph Ostwald; Also T. Mitchell Hastings.
EG: It is I, Uvani, I give you greeting, friends. Peace be with you and in your life, and in your work, and in your household. I give you greeting, my friends. What is it you would have of me, please?
(Q) What can you tell us regarding Mr. Cayce’s - Edgar Cayce’s - psychic work? (A) What I can tell you regarding his psychic work is very little more than you yourselves know. I find him, as I come in contact with the emanations that come from him into this room, peculiarly intuitive, supersensitive, and yet not using all the power that is within him. I find that there is a great passivity of consciousness which permits him the amazing reflective value which I am sure he is capable of using. I am seeing that the vibrations give to him much in the method of chemical formation, and I do not know at all if he has ever laid ON the hands on the sick, but I am sure that he possesses a great deal of magnetic force within the hands, and I do feel that sometime it would relieve him - and very much relieve in the cases of congestion such as the nervous conditions that assail the human race - if he did just break up the auric emanations about the sick one and laid his own STRONG condition of healing about him. To do this, of course, it would always be well for him to wet the hands and to immediately get into contact with the force that is there, and when he is finished - this would take him from five to seven minutes, to give his help - then again wash the hands, so there would be no danger of the contacts of the illness getting into his own etheric state. However, if he does not do this, it is probably because his own subconscious mind has said to him that he is a passive personality who will easily accept these things. If you forgive me that I make - and it is not a criticism - this I am certain I also feel that it would be helpful for him to stimulate his clairvoyant vision, so that he might become aware of the strength of the people who do work with him. I am certain that whatever his own reflective qualities are, there are still centers within that can be used to greater clarification. I feel so certain that at a moment in his passive quantity he comes into contact with MANY universal laws, but if he became acquiescent to the use of the control he could become a greater factor, inasmuch as he would not only say this IS what I see and hear but it would also be so much more emphatic in the emphasis of these who would help him. Nevertheless, I offer this not as a criticism but as something that I know would be valuable to him. On the other hand, my friends, if he is happy in his own state it is also good, for what IS good for him, as HE knows and understands, it is probably the right interpretation. I hope that answers your question.
(Q) What do you find is the source of his information when he goes into trance? (A) The source of his information, my friends, is achieved in this way. To understand at all the mechanism of the individual you have got to examine that how is the body mechanical. There is the etheric body by which we contact with the soul, for the soul is external to man, and the soul is - shall we say - that that we develop in the later stages to its own understanding, but IS - as it were - the rapping of the spirit, which is at all times perfect and at all times aware, at all times understanding. What, therefore, happens when he goes into - or how shall we say, returns, is this: That he passes into the etheric state. He, therefore, as it were, is outside of his body. In this state he is aware of the bodily contacts that can come to him, and also is his vision exhilarated by all that may be happening in your area. But he can do more than this. He can see within the reflection of his own life that that is fundamental, not only to himself but also to the people he may work with, IF he is in strong sympathy with them. It makes a great drain, however, that he does not admit of help in this. Did he admit of help at all, as some one who would interpret for him, it would give him so much more ability to accomplish more. By that I mean he would not himself feel the inner exhaustion, not only is he coming out of the body mechanical drawing way from it but he is using his full etheric leverage and is also drawing upon his own spiritual light for your assistance. While it may be said, therefore, that ever did he use this without help, he is giving you something of his own life. That is what happens.
(Q) Does his psychic power depend upon previous incarnations? (A) In his case very definitely so, yes. Unless he had indeed understood in the past the laws of passivity, the laws of withdrawal, and the inner law of knowing, he would not be able to get this reflection through himself. There is no doubt at all that I feel, as I come more and more into contact with the emanations, that he is capable of so much more from within himself than he actually even now responds to. That may be due, as I have said, to the fact that he uses his own spirit refection to see, to hear and to understand, but definitely in his case he has had previous understanding, and indeed I would say to you that any philosopher, any teacher, any instructor, any great genius
for it is after all genius of the spirit - any great artist, has had previous understanding of the law - as this one, to be able in this state to express ANYTHING of the law clearly. I think that answers the questions.
(Q) Can you describe any of this previous development of his for us? (A) I have a very, very strong feeling about his previous development. I am not going into it at very great length with you, but there is no doubt at all that he has had a very, very strong tie-up with northern India, as also he has in two instances with Egypt. It is his northern Indian experience that rather he is in conflict with at this moment. It is that in a sense that obscures his vision. I am very certain that a certain association with that continent will give to him that the great light of understanding would come to him, and that he would therefore revivify the power that is his. He has also obviously had much to do with the Nordic countries at one time, and I am sure that his very experiences may have been towards that path of the Celtic understanding, although not as he knows it now - the forefathers or forebears - but the great protest that HOLDS him now in chains to his own being is a protest against conditions produced in India. His Egyptian experiences were evidently at peace for him, therefore it may be that he blurs the vision in the hope to identify himself with that he was, but the greater - the greater - the greater vision is of India and of the association. If that can be lifted, behold a new channel, a new understanding in work can be accomplished.
(Q) Who are his spiritual guides? (A) My friend, I think that I never use the word guide. There is such a humility about it. It is - When you permit yourself to work for the good of humanity in this way, you draw to yourself not only in this experience but in many experiences hosts of sympathetic people. Among these sympathetic people there may be the one, two, three - or there may be only one who, I will say, will interpret and - I would always have you do not fail to know - guide the principles behind our work. Neither do we control, my friend. We desire only, if we see you showing a light, to magnify, to make that light gleam larger in the gloom of misunderstanding - and have we not ourselves passed through this stage such a very short time - and is it not therefore why we now want to help you in sympathy and understanding? We neither guide, please, nor control, but I have telled to you, please, that the contact - he has one very strong Egyptian contact, one very strong, and I would feel that most of his - the thing that he protests against is the Indian, which is particularly strong. Now he should be able very strongly to understand the teachings of Brahma - there is no doubt of this, but I do feel he may have suffered during this teaching, and so pushes it away, but the strongest force behind him is that Indian, please, which he does not yet know of.
(Q) You spoke of his securing a helper in interpreting his work. How can he do this? (A) I will tell you what to do, and do it with great earnestness and great care. You see, it is a terrific strain upon him, and if he will permit help there will be less effort in getting away. Now you deal with your beloved parent, my son, and I would say to you that all is cooperation, certainly not without - that you would, in the moments of susceptibility, ask that one should make himself better understood, who would - we say - take the fidelity to himself, the desire to interpret the law. Nevermind what the law is. We all interpret an understanding, emotion or conviction, but he himself will bring that personality through to you, and you know that he has already made the signs of doing this. Especially with a very, very strong Grecian condition, that sometimes has essayed to approach him.
(Q) Would you give the name of the Grecian? (A) No, I do not think so. That is for him and for his son to be able to find out for themselves. He has this within his own understanding, but I am only offering to you a point of view. I am far too understanding to say to any man do this or do that. So, if he cares to, with your cooperation, then ask and insist upon that strength through someone else who will help you, free you, and give you greater ability to reach these things - by his help and sympathy. You see, my boy.
(Q) Can you tell us, do you find that you have any contact with this entity in the past, my father? (A) No, but there are those around me who often speak, who know him well. I am an Arab.
(Q) Will you tell us something about yourself in relation to your own development? Have you had any contact with the Zoroastrian faith? (A) I am a follower of - or if you will let us put it very mildly, in my earth incarnation - of Mohammed, but in my understandings - and remember I have to have no faith, but many channels by which I am understood and so communicate. I have come into contact with very closely not only the first Zoroaster but with the later, which is tied up very much with the Mosaic. I have come into contact with the teachings of the Persian, as you understand. I understand the elements of this; its worship of the Whole, of the Sun, of the Moon, if the kind of life in all its varying forms; because, as you well know, man has emanated from such suns to such earth, and gone through all the evolutionary process. Therefore, this is understood and embraced within the teachings of the first Zoroaster.
(Q) Regarding the experiment this morning, in which Mr. Cayce - my father - gave a psychic reading for Mrs. Garrett, through whom you speak - What can you tell us regarding that entity who gave his name as giving that information this morning? (A) I was not present, my friend, at this experience; also I have not your father’s permission to speak of this. (EC: “You may speak of it.”) Then:
My friend, then I will tell you exactly the contacts with you, and perhaps they may arouse something within your own heart. You are very definitely - rather, shall I say, with an inclination, probably because you remember it much more eagerly, I use the word eagerly to you because I feel that you get some release within your Egyptian peace, but while you get much knowledge in that direction remember also that you have a greater fundamental understanding with the Hindu knowledge, if you will permit - and the contacts that I get in connection with you - one of a greater and lesser - and mark me, I do not emphasize greater and lesser in the way it is used, but I use it in the method of knowledge - which you were connected with the worship not only of Brahma and the Celtic (?) but of the child god, or the elephant - these two are in very close contact at all times with your beloved parent. But I am very certain that he must have suffered great torture and great sacrifice during this understanding, with the results that a contact with him is almost, as it were, blocked out - and that is a pity, because I think they come back to make something very right for him that has been a wrong, and I believe that he can use this to his own greater work. But the one that I have most impression of, please, and one I can see as being valuable to you, is a man of strong and ardent physique - you will find that he has much of the look of the Arab-Hebraic (?) - I do not think he was of the Hebrew understanding, he is probably of Greece, but he must have come into the Hebrew contact to understand it and to stimulate it and revive it with his own understanding. In such a one a greater humanity bespeaks than you will find with the Hebraic understanding. He does at all times come in contact with your beloved parent, and would help him at all times. He knows therefore much of the Mosaic law, he knows the law of Chaldea and the law of the Egyptian understanding of energy and life. So it would seem to me that he has stood in very, very close contact to you at all times, and has on more than one occasion revealed himself. Now why do you not let him come and break down some of the darkness, you see, of your beloved parent; for your beloved parent has felt “I am on the verge of something, but it is as though a blind light is there - and then I lose it.” I am very certain that for his own experiment and greater good, if you permit him in his next opening, allow this one to come into being, you will loosen a whole fund of ability and give to him the greater clarification with all his work, taking away much of the exhaustion and confusion that sometimes stands in his method.
Believe me, my friend, I thank you that you permit me to speak with you for a moment, but if you knew the infinitive power for good that you have behind you, you would not be discouraged at this moment. You would really permit this little experiment of opening up the help of one that may stand between you and many invasions that hinder your work, when you are doing this almost unaided. If you open your arms to the loving help that this one would give to you, it would renew a virility, an ease, and immediately a greater peace of mind. That, I assure you, is true. However, I know the laws you do, and I am not saying to this is RIGHT - I tell you it is there, and if it seems good to you use it and if not, it is well as you think. Each one must do what he feels is right for him, as he feels it. Then everybody would say, “But what is right?” We are all part of a great universal God, a great God, greater than the intelligence of many at this stage can scarcely comprehend. This is how one first becomes aware of the comprehension within self of the greatness of the universe, that we desire in our humbleness to enter into this and face ourselves for the greater knowledge, and so because we are part of that great enterprise, if you will, it is within the heart of each of us to understand what is good and you know very well that we have only to ask ourselves and be strong enough to obey the word. If we do that, we are then filling out the pattern, of course; and therefore I say that I am telling you, my friend, in all sincerity, that I KNOW that this strength is behind you - but it is for you ALWAYS to say whether YOU feel that it is right for you. Absolutely free will to each one, to fulfill his part of the pattern.
(Q) Do you get the name of this entity that would help? (A) No, that is for you and your father.
(Q) Can you give us more regarding this Hindu appearance that you speak of as being very definitely influencing my father’s life in the present? (A) I speak of a life in India. I speak of his being pulled apart. I feel that very definitely, maybe for power, maybe through misunderstanding, rather disobeying the purer Brahman law; though I don’t know that is true, I have a very definite feeling that he at one time disobeyed this understanding of the law, for he evidently has suffered, been tortured, been hurt; and you will find, my friend, that sometime if you like I would speak with you of these many things that have held him up in life - the contact almost to choke, the inability sometimes to be able to get the words clearly - these associations have been hurried over, and all have been, if you understand, LEFT as a cloud. Now the moment that an akinship in this brings out thought of the past, I think you’ll pull down the curtain. That is, however, held up on account of his own development. Now I know that through this other entity he can be freed.
(Q) In trance condition, or in an unconscious state as Dad receives this information, just how do you explain the process that he goes through in getting the information, say for another individual, in a Life Reading? (A) Well now, my child, you know very well that each of us is as our experience has made us, and you know that your father - more than anyone else dealing with this work - takes the very much interest in the body-mechanical. He himself departs from body-mechanical; that is, the everyday material body. I have said to you that he enters his own etheric state, which is the next - what you call trance - after that I do not find him. It is almost as though he stands in the door. I have the feeling that he looks at the description of life in his own experience and by the light of his own spiritual understanding he immediately sees the spirit contact of the personality and what has been given to the soul in experience. After all, there is no example, there is no judge but your own self; therefore, it is often doing your father harm and using his strength, because he is able to see without help except by the very light of the etheric body; just as if you held a flame and you examined something and you knew by looking at it that this had happened because of that. How does he know it? He knows it by his own inner understanding of life that you cannot GIVE him, only through experience. No one can take it away from him. You may certainly stimulate the vitality by asking for help of this one who would help. But in his experience he SEES the soul experience of this one or that one in the light of his own. You see, we are too much inclined to think of ourselves as the body, and I have never actually met, I have you my friend, your reality, but you will all say, “You know one another.” It is not true, you do not. You see the mechanical being propelled, and it is the soul that is reality and the body the machine. Now if that is so, your father is not dealing with bodies but is dealing with the experience that affects the material body. You do see that, do you not?
(Q) What would you recommend or suggest as the most important line for my father’s psychic work? (A) The most important line for your father’s work? You will do well to suggest this, my child: He should STAND up and permit of help; I mean that, because I do feel that he is not himself ENTIRELY strong enough to carry the load of these responsibilities any further. Because he is using his own light, he is dimming his own light. Let him get help to himself. I am sure you understand how very tired, how sometimes hopeless it may all seem, how his own clarification is very often bewildered by the ill judgements of people not capable of judging. You do know that. You live with him, so you know a little of the COMPLETE misunderstandings of most who come into daily contact with him; they come into his life and proceed to take him to pieces. Is it not so, that he has suffered? Now if he permits somebody like myself to come in, who will HELP him clarify that he sees, and when he is not able to clarify for himself, it will give him greater light; for I and others like me hold but a light upon the road for the weary so that they will not make the same mistakes from the selfsame experience that we have encountered. True, this is an experience each must go through; we may not interfere with your experience, but surely we may hold the light of clarification for you if you are weary, not when you are strong. And so the first thing I want to say to you is to STAND UP - “I will not have interference from anyone, I will be strong to myself, I must be a strong, fine, worthy channel; that I owe to myself, for if I am that to myself, then I am that to every man.” Then people have greater respect for the knowledge. You see the difference? It will strengthen his body, his forces, his will to see a new strength, his will to see youth; so that he will not say “I do not know if I can get anything.” As long as he does that he is open to the conflicts of mankind. But when he does this much for himself, my son, then he can go and give of that marvelous understanding to all. You do see that? You know how tired, you know the difficulties, you know that at times he has felt that he would just like to drop dead in the face of it all. Now I am very sure that he does not live as he should, in quiet, in PEACE, and in understanding.
(Q) Do you find that his Physical Readings, Life Readings or the Mental and Spiritual Readings would be the most beneficial in peoples’ lives? (A) I think, my friend, that the real development is the Life Reading. I tell you why it is important. I don’t believe in heading off any situation for anybody, but after all don’t we come back through this veil [vale?] again and again that we may share our responsibilities, pass our tests through experience, in the being and doing that with freedom which we should do without these associations with other lives such as he has coming up and had been avoiding and therefore making it difficult to give his best to his fellow man? The knowledge and understanding of past lives is giving a man a map of his body, so that he may know his territory and knowing his territory use it to the best advantage. Therefore, I see the importance of the Life Readings. When he gets the understanding of his past, I am sure all these clarifications will come to him. It is so often shown in the Life Readings that an illness is caused by a past life and is there to be met by the individual. So, I think his healing and Life Readings are important.
(Q) Do you get anything in relation to his development with the name Uhjltd? (A) Now we would get that going back to the pre-Celtic area, everything connected with that would suggest a period of before any of your what you call civilizations (forgive these terms in connection with some of them, but it is the language I know to express what we have called that name). Uhjltd, as you know, means exaltation. He who would be named by such a name would probably have evidently had to hold hands to the God, and in his day the gods of the elements would be represented in great force - that you will find among the Celtic peoples and among some of the others later, but the Uhjltd itself is as one acceptable, as you know, in the sight of God, in humanity. So the Uhjltd is almost the war song of exaltation, and would definitely therefore bring to a personality, outside of animate things, these ranges we have been speaking of. It commands sacrifice, it commands prayer. The nearest you will come to the name, I think, you will find it in the old Aryan and you will find it in the Hindu - you see how that carries forward and probably was connected with some of these people whose understanding of the law is lost to us.
(Q) In relation to this Uhjltd, can you get any further connection with the entity Edgar Cayce, with my father, with a previous experience? (A) I tell you what I would do for you; it would be far off experience, that is very definite. It would be that experience - I tell you you have little that would convey anything to what I mean. There was a land of people - the only connection we have is in some of the Mongolian buildings, and I think you will see it again in some of the old islands that have been left by the great period of destruction or the floods. The only vestige of it left in anything connected with it would probably be the isles in the Celt and the Indian. Really it is the word of sacrifice. If you will remember most of these people of the isles builded great monuments to the magnificence of God and made sacrifices, and I am very definitely of the impression that to do any justice to this - if you will give me something upon which your father has written a name, a number, I could see this definitely. (Not now - within a month.) Write any number that comes to him. I will be very happy to give you this. I only know that it is a great name, the meaning of sacrifice, and to give this with any degree of rightfulness, you see my point, it would be to give you more energy - and I am incapable now just to give that to you. But just with the number that comes to him, just so the keynote will give to me the key by which I can take hold of this; for, as you know, number is the creation of the universe and all its understandings of religion and formula given to man.
I would be happy to follow it up, but remember - Dr. Cayce - it is a very strong, particularly strong contact.
(Q) In trance condition my father sometimes visions a passing through planes to obtain the necessary records of individuals’ lives. (A) I would not be at all surprised that your father, your beloved parent, like all of us, is related to cosmic law. There’s no doubt that in his passage into the etheric state it is possible for him to feel the stimulation and movement of his own universe, but it is slow - passing through many dangers, as you see, because these are the stages of universal knowledge are enclosing surely the earth of which you are a part. Many people refer to them, I think the Theosophical, as the Akashic records, and some say that they are in the heavens. These records are there certainly for the visioning of any who will throw himself into the state of exaltation. It is quite probable he is not alone there, but when he does not see any figure waiting it is probably because there is always that desire to obtain knowledge which he sets out to get for himself.
(Q) He has seen a figure. Is this the same, perhaps, that you have mentioned as trying to help him? (A) Yes, sometimes showing to him - or trying to show to him the hall of wisdom, showing to him the records of the Creative Forces, but it is always the presentation of the one figure. Now if only he will ask, and stop a moment to receive the help, he shall be activated - so that the thoughts will be more to his own understandings.
(Q) Why is it that he hasn’t been able to get the Indian incarnation as you speak of in his own Life Reading? (A) Because, my son, the things that have hurt are the things that we protest against, and I have the feeling that if he knows his Indian incarnation and all connected with it he will see that it is because he was badly hurt, tortured, and it was a period of much misery, and I think he has pulled away from it as we always retreat from things that we do not like. This is the shadow that has stood between him and his greater understanding, fighting against this greatest period of soul achievement.
(Q) Could this Indian incarnation be the same as the Persian? (A) Very definitely, yes, because it would be connected with both. Remember that there is the understanding of the Brahman which does not belong to the Indian but rather to the Aryan people, who rightly had their beginnings in the great Teutonic countries. They spread over these various planes, they moved across the Indian and up to the north and south; but it is definitely his knowledge and suffering among these peoples that he is keeping in the background.
(Q) You find that this actually took place in India? (A) India.
(Q) Can you give the period? (A) Now one thing that is very clear, the suffering here was a much later date, you know please, than the Egyptian, which of course makes it quite obvious that he would not see it - it would seem to be almost as if he stepped out of it, you see, as though you pull a blind down. If he would only open and look at the beauty of this Indian incarnation, which stands very close to him but he has turned his back on it, desiring to look into the realms where there was peace, but I am sure he will remember this himself - if you will give him the stimulation that he needs.
(Q) How would you advise that we go about doing this? (A) I tell you exactly what to do. You see, he has himself got a little fear of suspended animation; sometimes it is difficult for him to formulate words, and the tendency to speak too quickly and at others his slowness of speech, and the desire almost to learn to speak again, which suggests to me he has been tortured to the throat and tongue. This may bring to him pictures, by the stimulation towards the sacrifice and the records. It is almost as though at the moment he becomes aware he will turn his back upon things, and that is the protest within him, “I do not want to mix up any more with sacrifice to myself,” and I am sure these contacts are the things that have so often crept up in his life and are the things that he could not get past. But there is very definitely danger to himself until he sees it more definitely in this whole channel.
(Q) In relation to his work we sometimes find that entities do speak through him. How is this the case? (A) You see, at times when he is mightily exhausted, somebody comes to him for - how you call - analysis reading. He is very ill, he may not be consciously tired, but nevertheless there may be in the state of unconsciousness that another person may bring to him or keep him in sympathy with that contact. Nevertheless, his desire is to do it himself. But such a person may help at times, who may manifest for a moment, that your father may know nothing about him, may have no relation, but it may be an entity will come in to help - as he will stimulate something in the person who needs the analysis, probably not related either in importance or understanding to your parent, but if they come again - where they see a channel to come back and forth
it is a dangerous experimentation. I do not care for that so much, that is why I feel that he needs this one to help him, for he does exhaust his greater strength in his own activity, and with such help he may give greater knowledge with less exhaustion to himself.
- (Q) Do you connect in any way with his work the name Halaliel? (A) We do know the meaning of the name, my friend. It is connected so definitely over a period of time that we just spoke of. You see after all the meaning of it, you are not getting it in its correctness, but let him give to you that the very significance of it is as one who has responded, one who has been scorched, one who has overcome, one who has survived.
I rather hope, my friend, you will permit this dweller to come very close to you. I believe in the heart of me you you are trying to do a very sincere and beautiful work, and I hope wherever our roads may meet we may take the time to take each other’s hand and give each other the blessing of the universe. But because of the fact that you do not always know how to use that illimitable fund that is yours, I would say to you it would be so well worth while to permit help, that there may be much beauty and understanding, much more humility and much more healing, from your experience in the Indian incarnation. There is so much more strength if you if you give yourself in all. That I would say to you. Is there anything more you would like to say to me before I leave?
(Q) Can you tell us anything regarding this crystal sent my father from India? Do you know who sent it to him? We have the crystal ball here. (A) But I am very certain there is a definite connection between that and his own experience, and I feel very definitely certain that it is after all what you call the looking glass. Look within it, my friend, and see the thing that has been troubling your life. If you would only understand, see that the whole thing has within it the significance. I do not think that your father desires to look within the crystal at all, but I’m sure that if he does he will see this experience that he is avoiding. It is given to him as a symbol.
(Q) Which one of us could help him most? (Ques. by Mrs. Zentgraf) (A) I am certain that he needs help. I am sure that in the understanding and response to him that you would always be able to help him greatly. For we are lights on a weary road.
(Q) Can you tell me in what way your work and Edgar Cayce’s work can be of help one to the other? (A) Inasmuch as they have met and spoken with spiritual ease, recognizing each in the other a center-point of light, so let them hold this to themselves and I am very certain, my friend, that if in the various meetings there is something to do that could help the other it will be done; for so surely is our work based upon that. Let the spirit of tolerance and good humor speak one for the other, for they are but the channels of a greater light.
(Q) There was an entity last night who desired to speak, who said he would speak through you. Is that permissible for that entity at this time? (A) Did he make himself wholly and completely clear to you? I see none such. I only tell you of the one I have seen, the loving one who desires to help more than anything else in the world. Because of his help the whole stream changes, a new life, a new force comes in. It is only that what I would leave you is that his humility and understanding is greater than any other I have come to contact.
(Q) Is there any advice or guidance for those who are to assist and direct and help to expand my father’s psychic work? (A) Do what you can to be that instrument through which his strength may be directed. I would say very definitely, if you want to help him, make it possible for him to have peace of mind during this new change that comes upon him. Let him, for mercy’s sake, live without the feeling that he owes to you all anything in this way and that. If you are interested in his sincerity and your own sincerity is good and sufficiently right for him, then you will infuse the spirit of understanding to those whom he has been helpful to. Help him to gain a STRENGTH; he needs a bodily strength; he needs a physical strength; he needs a little peace of mind, that he may go out and come back and better possess himself; and give him your trust, and if some new life come in do not run away from the old understanding that has helped you but on to the new light, and let it make the knowledge more valuable to you. But SHOW your appreciation. That is all I have to say to you. But give to him the rock of security; that is, do not seek help for your own ego always; follow his example, and do not seek for yourself alone; let it be in love and security for him, for all he has done for you along the road to God-Consciousness. That is the only way you can help.
(Q) What can you tell us of the future possibilities in the organization work? (A) Excellent, excellent! but the first needs are to find out the interested ones, and let them be interested from the UNIVERSAL viewpoint - not for self. Do not come to him, nor let others come to him, seeking for themselves expression of their own ego, for in this way you would destroy him. From a small growth great things can be built up, but first let him feel the security. It is beautiful, this undemanding work of his; let each of you be likewise. With the security within his heart, this man can speak the fundamental truths with a new force. So help him, do not hinder him. Give to him sincerity, by being sincere yourself.
(Q) Is there a special significance to this meeting between you and my father? (A) My child, have you not lived long enough to know that there is day and there is night, because there was day? And there is nothing you do today that does not throw the shadow on yesterday and cause the reactions of tomorrow! Do you think there is anything in the universe that is not moving in association around and about you? You have met that that a greater good may be done.
(Q) Is there a message to anyone present to help them? (A) What more can I say that I have said? What more is there anyone can say? Be to yourself a law of security, so that you will be a law of security in the face of your universal God, so that the children coming into your life can be born without fear. Be to your daily hour yourself. DARE to be yourself. Dare, my friend, to speak the truth and be yourself. And if you be true to yourself and work out your own pattern, you will not have time to find flaws in your neighbor’s pattern, for you will see yourself with true vision. And when you call children into being, call them into being without fear, and to those who are coming towards that moment when the great awakening is coming. Glorify God every moment, for you are all a part of His great will and understanding, and within each is that voice
- that eternal voice that calls to you in every moment, “Do that that is true,” and if you do that then all that happens happens right.
And I thank you, my friend, for this opportunity to speak with you. May the good Lord in His infinite mercy, Lord of all the universe, inspire and bless you and keep you.
So be it.
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Summary
A psychic reading and discussion about Edgar Cayce’s psychic work, his past lives, spiritual guides, and advice for his development and the organization, given through Mrs. Garrett’s mediumship.
People: Mrs. Eileen Garrett, Mrs. Zentgraf, Margaret Naumberg, Helene, Ernest, Robert, Margret, Lilian Zentgraf, Eleanor, Adolph Ostwald, T. Mitchell Hastings, Uvani, Halaliel
Places: India, Egypt, Persia, Greece, Celtic lands, Mongolia, Teutonic countries
Concepts: past-life in India, past-life in Egypt, Spiritual Body, soul development, spiritual guides, trance states, Akashic Records, Free Will
Referenced readings: 254-71
Mentioned Entities
Soul, Entity (Cayce Term), India, Law of Moses, Egypt, Incarnation, Persia, Visions, Purpose, Records (Atlantean), Greece, Healing, Initiation, Psychic Development, Veil of the Temple, Aura, Clairvoyance, Crystal (Atlantean), Gladys Davis, Hugh Lynn Cayce
Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 507-1, ReadingID 3632.