TEXT OF READING 1561-11 M 59 (Mining Engineer)
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Date: 4/12/1940 Sex: M Age: 59 ReadingID: 7570
This Psychic Reading given by Edgar Cayce at the home of Mr. and Mrs. Milton W. Harrison, 56 Highland Circle, Bronxville, N.Y., this 12th day of April, 1940, in accordance with request made by the self - Mr. [1561], Associate Member of the Ass”n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.
[Edgar Cayce; Hugh Lynn Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mr. [1561].]
Time of Reading 3:40 to 4:20 P. M. Eastern Standard Time. …, N.J.
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HLC: You will have before you the entity Mr. [1561], present in this room, and his mental and material affairs, especially as related to information given him in his Life Reading thru this channel regarding mining operations. There seemed indications that mining operations in the Egyptian period made possible extension of activities now represented in the study and presentation of the work of Edgar Cayce. Voluntary information was given on the “Lost Sheep” mine in subsequent information thru this channel. Considering the conditions surrounding this entity, his attitude and development, what steps can he take toward following up these indications and suggestions to bring the greatest good to all concerned? You will answer the questions, as I ask them:
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EC: Yes, we have the entity, Mr. [1561], his qualifications and activities.
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In considering such developments or activities, these must ever be qualities or characteristics that are a part of the individual entity here. As has been indicated, there are conditions in which associations and experiences may bring - again - those activities that were a part of the developments through a period in which there were the needs for such actions, in the development of forces arising from nature’s storehouse, nature’s activities. And these may be used, then, in meeting the needs of individuals and groups, for the furthering of ideas and ideals that were a portion of the experience of the peoples and associates of the entity through that sojourn.
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As to the application of same for conditions in the present, - these as we find, as has been suggested, are a channel through which such relations may be established. As to what would be done with such, as to the manner in which same would be used, - this should be in conjunction with that which has been and is the present material, mental and physical development of the entity.
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In relationship to that lode indicated, by the name given through these channels, - this as we find has NOT as yet been located; it being still a portion of government controlled or owned properties in those areas given.
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Owing to some connections and associations these, then, offer a channel, an outlet through which the entity, with physical investigation, might induce or bring about those activities in which there may be a great development in the metals, or ores, that are the basic channels for activity at this present time.
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As to specific locations, - we would find this from that railroad crossing just below the state line, or just east of the state line, about sixty-three miles toward the northwest by west from that station, see?
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(Q) What is the name of the station? (A) Better go, look and see! It’s here; at the entrance, or almost upon the border of the state.
We will find this here, see - the Indian name is not the same, and that’s the one directing here. Scout? No, it isn’t, but it’s the meaning of the same - Discount? Discout? It would be found here; observe where the railroad crosses.
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(Q) When should the physical location of this be attempted? (A) Whenever conditions or circumstances are such that it gives the entity the opportunity for such exploration.
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(Q) Is the land open for location? (A) Just as indicated, it is a portion of the government property, and is open for location.
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(Q) What is the strike, depth, length and average width of the vein? (A) It varies somewhat, and is in this canyon - as indicated, as the very name would indicate, being a ledge in which sheep have pastured, of course, and in which there are indications of such having happened in same. It is almost at the opening, where some waterfalls have been. There it may be indicated. It is extending in water and downward some four and a half feet in one direction, some twelve in the other, and extends some two hundred feet to two hundred and forty-six feet in water; and increasing its breadth, as well as its width, in the slope downward.
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(Q) Are the metals free and easily milled, or is the ore complex and requiring shipment to smelter? (A) The metals would be easily smelted, even here on the grounds - for they are close to where such might be prepared for same.
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(Q) Do values maintain in depth? (A) Values as we find will be rather as a unit, and will run much more than the ordinary.
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(Q) Is there sufficient water for milling and domestic purposes? (A) As indicated, this is a part of the territory where there has been an overflow. Hence the indications are very close, without very much machinery for the preparation of same, for plenty of water and for the activities of all natures in this direction.
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(Q) Are there any particular mining, milling, operating or shipping problems? (A) Only the distance as indicated, as to how far from the outlets; some sixty odd miles, see?
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(Q) Can any more definite description of the location be given at this time? (A) This is in the directions here as indicated.
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(Q) Is this railroad crossing at the state line in the south or the north? (A) It’s near the middle, because it crosses - of course - from the north towards the south. The railroad runs northeast, southwest.
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(Q) What is the name of the railroad? (A) You’ll find it here, as it crosses into this portion of Arizona.
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(Q) Is it the Santa Fe or the Southern Pacific, crossing into Arizona? (A) It’s the Santa Fe; and it is the northernmost one, not the southernmost one here.
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(Q) Can approximate monthly or yearly distributable earnings be estimated and given? (A) Well, this would depend - of course - upon the amount of the machinery used, for not only the claiming of the ore but the manner in which it would be handled when operations were begun; but it should be many MILLIONS a year!
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(Q) What would be the value of the ore per ton, approximately? (A) This, of course, will depend upon the manner in which it is handled, and how, but this will be thousands of dollars for a ton of this nature here!
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(Q) Will a market for silver ore continue? (A) A market will continue.
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(Q) Is this a “grass root” proposition enabling immediate shipment and sale of ore as mined or possibly sorted, that subsequent equipment and operating costs be derived from such initial shipments? (A) With the testing of the grade of the ore here, ALONE, sufficient capital may be EASILY procured for operations. For it is GOOD!
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(Q) The direction in miles as given, - from what point is this taken? (A) The town here on the border, as indicated.
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(Q) Now, regarding the Montana situation, [See 1561-8, on 11/7/39], involving mining properties of Mr. [1561]: Attempting to follow suggestions given, I consulted with a lawyer “Corette” in Butte, Montana, last November. Mr. Timothy Nolan took great exception and refused to further discuss the matter. Payments to me, in accordance with agreements, then ceased and have not since been resumed. I felt that had I started legal action I would merely precipitate a legal entanglement whereby none involved would receive anything from the properties henceforth. Can this matter be clarified, peacefully or otherwise? (A) As we find, there will be the needs of some precipitation, either by agreements or by the asking or seeking for an accounting of the shipments and of all operations as have been carried on there.
These as we find may be satisfied, or an equitable agreement reached, if there is the consultation or the getting together and discussing it in an amicable way and manner.
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(Q) Will general conditions in the United States and in Montana in the subsequent one, two or three years tend to interrupt this mining operation? If so, will it be resumed and when? (A) Rather the tendencies will be for increased activity, rather than interruption.
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(Q) Can it be told whether payments to me will be resumed and when? (A) This will depend, and must depend upon activities of the entity in relationships to those who have the affairs in hand.
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(Q) I was advised to seek the assistance of a lawyer - (A) As we find, it will still be necessary in order to understand and to know the situations regarding the law respecting same. This will not necessarily have to be used, depending upon the men and the agreements as may be reached with same. But to know what the rights ARE under the provisions of contract, the provisions of activity, MUST necessarily be a part of the procedure or the activity of the entity; and for this reason such was advised. The necessity still exists.
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(Q) As I am unable to go to Montana, should I make a demand that payments be resumed? (A) Not through the lawyer, but through self - in conjunction with those holding or conducting the affairs; and then if it is necessary later, it will be necessary to be upon the ground. But the best would be the consultation or agreements one with another, and the meeting and talking of it over.
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(Q) The lawyer should not be brought into it except for information? (A) As indicated, know the law and the rights, and keep within same, without bringing about too many entanglements unless same becomes necessary.
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(Q) Can these results be obtained by correspondence? (A) Not as good, as we find, as if there were personal visitation.
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(Q) Will it be possible, and when would be the best time, for me to go out there? (A) As we find, by May or June should be the best time, and it should be made possible by that period.
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(Q) General questions: There is an important personal message [from the “Little Prophet”, Faith Hope Charity Harding?] to be delivered to President Roosevelt. Should I be designated as the messenger, and if so will I be enabled to deliver such message after conference with Secretary Henry A. Wallace, or through some other who might arrange delivery or a personal meeting between Roosevelt and myself? (A) If it is of such importance and of that nature, it will work itself so that this would be not only possible but there will be made a means for the delivery of such.
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(Q) Would it be wise for me to act as the messenger for this? (A) This as we find is not altogether wise, but advising with Wallace may clarify the situation for the entity, as to whether it would be best for the self or through other channels.
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(Q) Will it be possible for me to meet and to see Wallace regarding this matter? (A) It will be possible to see Wallace. As to how much interest or sympathy may be aroused is still a question, for it will depend upon Wallace’s reaction to same.
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(Q) Two friends are attempting with and through me to acquire a few hundred acres of agricultural land in our Southeast, - this for the residence and the raising of foods - corn, vegetables, etc., such as would be best for a sustenance farm where the residents could produce sufficient to relatively “live off the farm.” Can helpful suggestions be given in this direction as to practicability, location, etc. The few joining would have a practical farmer and agriculturist to plant and harvest. This to be a retreat for the ones wishing to get away from cities and a haven in case of necessity. (A) This is a very practical idea, as indicated, for the activities in these directions. As to locations, this should be determined by the farmer or agriculturist considering such, according to the character of products desired to be produced. If these are to be of such natures as to be practical sustaining factors in the lives of individuals or of a group, then it should be in such states where all forms of vegetables, fruits and the like are produced, as well as stockraising which should be a part of the project. For these should be then in those fields that are well-rounded and that cover many seasons, or where there are the varied seasonal vegetables, fruits, stock and the like. And as we find, such may be had in various sections at varied prices, and will form then a part of whatever is the character of such an undertaking. Of course, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina or the like will offer the better localities, and as far as the price is concerned they come in the same order as indicated as to their location; and these as we find then would be chosen by those who were adapting themselves to, or who are capable of judging such lands.
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(Q) Am I qualified to act as a scout in looking for such areas? (A) With the advice of the agriculturist, yes; and with the advice of those who would consider it as a place or retreat, or as adaptable for being fitted for the use of individuals for such a purpose, as well as a base or source of supply. For, we see that this may be extended into such an undertaking that there will be a supplying to many individuals of of homes, firesides, and also means of sustenance and life itself for many, many individuals. This can be extended in those ways where MANY of the great excesses of loss to individuals or groups can be eliminated, if these plans from the producer to the consumer were carried on in just such a group or aim; for production, delivery, distribution.
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We are through for the present.
Copy to Self - Special Delivery ” ” Ass’n file
Reports
Reports & Follow-up
R1. 4/19/40 He referred Mr. [2172] for Life Reading.
R2. 4/26/40 HLC’s letter:
Dear [1561]:
I can understand why you wanted to sit down with me and talk over the information contained in the last reading. Since this now is impossible for the moment at least, let’s try to reason it out step by step by letter and follow up readings until you feel confident that everything is clear.
From old experiences I know that the readings will never go back on information once given. It may be inaccurate as we are looking at it, but the language is a problem. Taking the last two readings and leaving out previous information not given you, it adds up to this:
Yuma County 43 Miles north by west from Bonanza (?) [Boriana?]
So far I have not been able to locate anything by the name of Bonanza. You might try large maps in the New York library. It may appear on some old map. The name may have been changed or the mining town may have now disappeared. I will try the local library.
Now as to the information in the last reading. Everything given can be relatively true, which on first glance seems impossible.
Assume for a moment that the information used railroad crossing to mean either the spur crossing at Bouse going toward Swansea; or the spur crossing from Harcuvar to Quartzite. Both of these spurs run from north east to south west. A point repeated in answer to Q-10, page 3 [1561-11, Par. 17-A].
Now suppose that in question 12 [1561-11, Par. 19-A] we could have put the question more intelligently, the result would have been better. I am sorry that I did not know more about the map when taking the reading. For we now find that the Santa Fe crosses into Arizona in two places (and by the way it runs north east and south west in the upper one coming in from Needles - in fact from Peach Springs down to Franconis is in this general direction). But still considering this 12 question [1561-11, Par. 19-A] there are three possible interpretations: It is the Santa Fe - The information may be following our questions referring to the Santa Fe as being more northern than the Southern Pacific which we mentioned; or it may mean the norther branch entering at Needles; or it may mean the more northern spur crossing from Bouse to Swansea, rather than the spur crossing from Harcuvar to Quartzite.
Personally, I am of the opinion that the last statement is the fact. I believe he referred to rail-road crossing as the spur crossing and not the point of crossing into Arizona. The Bouse to Swansea spur fits all qualifications.
It is the first crossing east of the boundary. It runs north east and south-west and we are in range of Yuma County.
Now there is the matter of the 63 miles. Consider the answer to question 8 [1561-11, Par. 15-A]. This might well indicate that the direction was being given from the mine TO the best rail shipping point; that is, the mine would be just opposite from the directions given. The rail-road station would be 63 miles to the north west by west. This would put us well down into the desert section of the country.
We may also consider the possibility that such directions might apply to the northern tracks of the Santa Fe. By locating the station mentioned on this northern route and taking 63 miles to the south east (opposite from n.w.) we would again be in Yuma.
It is very easy to hear what you are thinking when listening to readings. After all when you think about it we asked for the location of the mine. If the focus point is there all directions would logically be given from that point.
You may be right on your Sentinel proposition but think the above fits better with what has been given.
You or I may be able to dig up something more on Bonanza or on Discount (Scout). I would like for you to consider the following questions and let me have your reaction to the above reasoning.
In reading of April 12th 1940 the directions for finding the “Lost Sheep” mine included the following: 2 from that railroad crossing just below the state line, or just east of the state line about 63 miles toward the n.w. by west from that station. Is the railroad referred to the Santa Fe crossing from California into Arizona at Parker or is it the Santa Fe entering Arizona at Topock; or is the railroad crossing referred to the spur of the Santa Fe from Bouse to Swansea; or is the reference to the spur of the Santa Fe from Harcuvar to Quartzite. If none of these please explain.
63 miles N.W. by W. from any of these will locate the mine outside of Yuma county. Please clarify, and give specific directions.
We will preface this reading with suggestion indicating study which has been made to establish exact location and ask detailed directions for finding place when once in the vicinity.
I have not discussed this with Dad and will not do so, neither will I take the reading. Thus avoiding so far as possible any telepathic explanation from my mind. I feel that the spur from Bouse to Swansea is the crossing point meant and that the mine is 63 miles to the south east, but we will see. See if you can check the meaning of Bouse or Harcuvar in Indian language. N.Y. library may have something.
If you get a good map of Yuma county from government or state better get me a copy to ask questions from when get next reading.
Check we me on above and any developments and we will set date for next reading. I will go into Norfolk this week-end to check maps there and try to find something on Bonanza or Bouse.
As told you I will take care of next reading to follow up.
Regards to both you and […]. [HLC]
R3. 5/5/40 through 9/18/40 See 1561-12 through 1561-17 in re Smith Co., Tex. oil.
R4. 5/17/40 [1561]‘s letter to EC:
Columbia University Club 4 West 43rd Street New York
Dear dear Edgar:
We were AMAZED at hearing WHERE you headed and WHERE you rest! [Smith Co., Tex., EC was guest, with GC, of Mrs. [2174], Mr. [2091] and Dr. [2246] - See 1561-13].
Did the IMPORT of the word via Faith Hope Charity miss you entirely?
THIRTY DAYS IN THE WILDERNESS! Alone with thy God! ENTER THERE THE HOLY OF HOLIES.
Liberation - illumination comes NOT midst materiality. Nor whilest secretly questioning “WHERE are my ways & means? Can it be this “Oil” - I shall FIRST see and then in “assurance of ways & means” BE ABOUT MY WORK!
Dear Edgar - I PLEAD for YOU and for the souls THROUGH you IF you qualify - You have been told, your GREAT work lies ahead
- that till now - a PREPARATION - You face examination!
IN THE WILDERNESS - FACE IT boy - and receive your Sheep Skin!!! If you Act NOW, it is not too late.
Your eternal friend - [1561]
R5. 5/24/40 EC’s reply to [1561]:
Dear Mr. [1561]
Yours of the 17th reached me here - after my return from west
- you may be exactly right, but if am to ask others to ever rely on information as comes through me, then must myself act like I believed it, and do as it has suggested [See 294-197 on 5/9/40] - don’t you think that is true?? The wilderness, is about us, is it not and not merely a wooded spot or place, minds need be warned of GOD nearness. Minds that have seen, yet are dimmed by the cares of circumstance.
Possibly that includes my own who knows. Am glad have renewed some of the contacts, that are from 20 to 30 or more years old - a root remains in Jessie [Jesse], for the promise is to believers.
Hope haven’t done wrong - and my own conscience is clear at present - time may tell me differently - to be sure - but I walk and talk with HIM - and HE will direct my ways if I know myself. But am sure - does “the blind lead the blind both will fall in the ditch” and am quite sure am of my self oft very blind. Only in HIM am I perfect in light.
Thank you - and May God Blessings be with you for your warning for your admonition, hope to see you and to talk with you very soon
Love to all
Sincerely [signed] Edgar Cayce
R6. 9/26/40 Mrs. [1602]‘s letter to EC: ”…The Harding - [1561] situation continues in a mess. Mrs. H. is back in Trucksville, - Mr. H. is bringing suit against her. I think divorce - while the [1561] family is all at Tryon, N.C. completely broke and in a most pathetic state of disillusionment in Mrs. H., etc.
Mr. H. wrote me today and I will quote from his letter as it best explains itself.
“At present she (Mrs. H.) is working on the idea that Mr. Cayce will help her and sort of take her in on his proposition in reference to lectures, etc. She is in communication with him for his list of Association members, etc. I wish you would get in touch with him and explain the situation as I feel confident were he to know the truth of the situation, he would not desire any association with such a place…”
I imagine you do know the situation and are pretty well aware of the causes so I need say no more to you. It is too too bad - but there must be answer to all of them somewhere - so many are really involved.
R7. 9/30/40 EC’s reply: ”…Haven’t heard anything much direct about the [1561] - Harding situation. Hugh Lynn has taken care of the correspondence, as Mrs. Harding has written him and he talks very little - too bad it has seemingly taken such a bad turn - there were warnings, as I remember, and it is so easy for people to get hurt in such matters. Just hope for the best. Sorry for the ones that are ill and those who care for them - May HIS arms protect…”
R8. 10/15/40 [1561]‘s letter to EC:
Dear dear Edgar:
“The blind leading the blind”! Oh how true - yet not the Authority which HELPS humanity via Edgar Cayce - ! For there is naught but love and mercy -
WHAT has happened to […] and via […] his dear ones, I DO NOT KNOW! Please pray for us - WE NEED HELP! And if you can & will, see what may be “given” for my strength and courage
- yet I do not know WHERE I can be - maybe … - maybe … Club, 4 West 43rd City. May I have a reading SOON. Yes - I would call it certainly an EMERGENCY -
With my love to you all ALWAYS [1561]
R9. 10/22/40 See 1561-18, a Mental-Spiritual Reading.
R10. 8/25/44 EC’s letter to [1561]:
.., N.J.
My dear Mr. [1561]:
It was indeed nice to hear from you [See 1561-22 Reports on Physical Reading]. I have thought about you a lot of times, but didn’t know whether you were in New Jersey, or Southwest Virginia, or possibly Montana or Arizona.
I wish I could give you an appointment right now, but for the last four to five weeks, I have been entirely out of the running. Haven’t done anything for anybody, and of course it has mixed things up, and we were already months and months in advance.
Of course, if you were here we might be able to work something out sometime when we were not too crowded in one of the periods. Just when that would happen, I don’t know. It happens maybe one - two - three times each week. You would possibly have to be here for a week to ten days before we might have a period we could work it in.
I have some interesting things to tell about some of the others who have been interested in “Lost Sheep”, but I don’t know what it means [GD’s note: I think he meant Mr. [3538], who discussed much with EC in re Arizona treasures].
Do arrange to get down, and we will work this in some way, if this would be satisfactory.
I hope things are going well with you, and trust they are much better at home than they have been sometimes. Do give my love to Mrs. […].
Let us hear from you real soon. With lots of love to all,
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce [EC:gp]
R11. 2/1/44 See 3638-1 regarding “The Dutchman” gold mine in Pinal County, Arizona.
R12. 9/10/46 [1561]‘s letter to HLC:
Dear H. L.
Would so have liked to have been able to be present at the last conference - but - it just wasn’t to be. Am glad to see the increasing interest and of course it is good to know that you are at the helm again.
Have now regained my normal weight and will shortly have the old vitality and pep. So - my thoughts persistently return to desert lands and mineral lodes! [See 1561-22 on 5/2/43 and subsequent Reports.] Nothing but gold and/or silver however will interest me. I have had my fill of the base metals and never had any luck with them. Too, both Au and Ag will increasingly become valuable during subsequent years. Guess you know this too.
Thus, old timer, I again write to see if you can find further reference to “Lost Sheep” as your Dad informed me just prior to his passing. I took it that there had been new information - new developments of some sort or, in any event he wanted me to come down. I was however getting too sick to go anywhere.
With Ag at 90 cents and with geeps and giros, todays prospecting should be a relative picnic. What say?
Anyway, do let me hear from you and - if you contemplate getting up to this neck of the woods ere snow time maybe we can pow wow.
Meantime my best to you both and to Gladys and to any others of our old friends who may happen to be around.
As ever [1561]
R13. 5/7/50 [1561]‘s letter to HLC:
Our dear Hugh Lynn -
In reference to our several conversations, I propose to set up a little Syndicate for the purpose of acquiring one or possibly two of the gold properties which, in my judgment, merit further prospecting and development. Your father’s “readings” I believe, seem to substantiate my own feelings in this respect.
The further and possibly very important purpose of the Syndicate will be to sponsor the prospecting for the high grade silver mine referred to in the ‘readings’ of various members of the Association for Research and Enlightenment as “The Lost Sheep Mine” in Arizona. As you know, the information regarding this mine has always been given Voluntarily except when asked for in follow-up readings.
Anyway, I believe that the time is most propitious for these undertakings, and that the promise might prompt interest on the part of some of the members of the Association to the extent of their participation.
For it’s purposes, the Syndicate should comprise 100 units, of which 20 might be offered at
1,000. per unit. I believe that it would be best to limit subscriptions to a minimum of500.00 for one half of one unit. Sufficient units will be held in reserve for additional development and equipment.You know somewhat of my life’s interests and experiences and that prospecting and the development and operation of mining properties have comprised my major activities and I feel that we can make a very substantial success of this present venture. Maybe we can duplicate something akin to past successful performances.
Anyway, I will be glad to present the picture to any whom you may suggest.
With my warm regards to you and to all the rest at Virginia Beach,
As ever, [1561]
R14. 5/8/50 “From what your Dad told me and wrote to me, there were several instances where ‘Lost Sheep’ was mentioned or described. Too bad you haven’t found them. I have only my own readings [1561-1, Par. 58-A, 1561-3, Par. 20-A, and 1561-11] and that of 195-1, dated 11/18/22. I may get some information from local Indians - old timers - and then again I might get some out of the silence.”
R15. 6/12/50 [1561]‘s letter to HLC:
Our dear Hugh Lynn -
In order to properly prospect for the “Lost Sheep” Mine in Arizona, I would recommend the following set-up.
A Syndicate or Corporation of 250 units of which 40 percent or 100 units should be set aside as Treasury Units; 40 percent or 100 units should be the property of The Cayce Foundation and 20 percent or 50 units the property of [1561].
Of the 100 Treasury Units, 30 should be offered at
500.00 each, for the purpose of raising15,000. to provide for the following requirements which will most likely be necessary to carry on the project to a point which should be determinative.Willys-Overland 4 wheel drive $ 2,100. Gardner-Denver Portable Compressor Model PO339 LE with drill, steel & bits 1,370. Instruments and tools 250. Helper for 6 months 1,800. Labor 3,000. Supplies 750. Miscellaneous 1,000. Expense of Supervision 3,600.
$13,870.
A second hand auto trailer might be well to have under certain conditions, to house 3 or 4 men.
All monies derived from this first offering should be paid back to the subscribers from the first distributable profits of the Syndicate or Corporation, and any other properties which might be discovered and ‘located’ during this quest, shall become the property of the Syndicate or Corporation.
As described, the property would require little additional financing to bring it into production and the richness of the ore would cause a sufficient demand for Treasury units, to meet any such requirements.
And so, old timer, let not doubt or timidity enter. Your Dad would not have and - we’ll find “The Lost Sheep” when we have sufficient and enthusiastic support!
Yes - the venture might be VERY important, as you suggest, for the results certainly COULD be startling. You need no imagination to realize what a successful quest would mean, not only for all participants but, via The Cayce Foundation, for increasing numbers. The Veil is thinning in any event and who may better bring that ‘clarity’ than you at Virginia Beach?
Personally, I think you may be somewhat over-apprehensive about any repercussion from a possibly unsuccessful quest for there are many more Bonanzas lying hidden underground than have ever been brought to light and - The “Lost Sheep” Mine would still be there to be found and one day, we’ll find it. I believe that it can be NOW.
Did I ever tell you about the little blind psychic, Mrs. Rubenhausen, of Salt Lake? Well, the biggest operator in Utah made no move without consulting her first so I took a piece of rock to her, from a prospect I had in Nevada. This was in 1909. She held the rock and described the then unopened vein and particularly two miners “who throw up their hands in surprise at the rich ore encountered.” Well, it all so happened. After I had driven a tunnel 628 feet long to tap the vein at a depth of 300 feet we hit that rich ore and the men so described their surprise to me. The shoot was 610 feet long and 900 feet deep and something over two million dollars came out of that tunnel, in 4 1/2 years. Yes, that face encountered was just ‘plastered’ with gold and silver, so Mrs. R was good too.
Incidentally I’ve done a lot of reading and research and some of the fog is lifting. There SHOULD be none over Arizona! Is the man for whom the 1922 Reading was given, still around and if so, is he interested? That Reading speaks of a shadow at 3.05 P.M. What DAY of the Month was it and what was the time of the reading. I want to correlate in case I’m in the area about that time of day and month, savvy? Incidentally THAT reading is important. The King and the North Star Mines are in mighty fine territory, and they’re some 63 miles from a Santa Fe crossing. Think I have it down to two locations and, I hope, ONE. Let’s not broadcast these directions too freely, anyway. Some day you’ll find more references to “Lost Sheep” in your files. Your father spoke and wrote of a number of them as you, of course, know. However, I’m ready to go as it is.
I’ll try and get down. My best to all. [1561]
I may put in 1, 2 or 3 months nosing around alone. There are 3 Reservations near enough and some of those Indians make fine friends if you’re on the up and up and have a pass word or two. If the trail gets hot, you’ve got to be mighty cagy though, and head in other directions if any of the old timers (white men) get too inquisitive. When you DO hit it, you’ve got to locate all the ground you need or want, in a hurry and secretly if possible. Guess you know. That kind of ore described in the Readings would start a stampede sure enough.
R16. 8/9/50 [1561]‘s letter to Mr. Johnson:
Columbia University Club 4 West 43rd Street New York
Mr. C. Rudolph Johnson Mercantile Bank Building Dallas, Texas
Dear Mr. Johnson;
In a number of ‘readings’ via Edgar Cayce, unsolicited referenced were made about a very rich silver mine in Arizona and confirmations and directions for locating follow in other readings.
Apparently, from information received through this source or for reasons best known to themselves, both Hugh Lynn and Edgar Cayce seemed to feel that maybe I could find this “Lost Sheep” Mine as it is called.
It so happens that I have spent many years in prospecting and the development of mining properties and am somewhat familiar with the desert area described and I, too, believe that I can find it and that the time is propitious - for if this “Lost Sheep” Mine be located and is anywhere near as rich as is claimed in the readings, we’ll be producing silver bullion with relatively little equipment and crew, and at a time when it’s trading value may be much greater than now.
Anyway, with this motive in view, I am forming a little group to sponsor an adequate search and will try to present the picture to a few of those who knew Edgar Cayce personally or who know of him through his works and his service and thus seek their participation.
I am inclosing copies of two letters to Hugh Lynn and a copy of extracts from one of numerous ‘readings’ held for myself and others. There are additional directions which I believe will pin the location down to one of two possible areas. Both can be thoroughly prospected with proper equipment.
We will await your answer with interest and with the hope that you may be interested to the extent of becoming one of the little group.
Sincerely [1561]
R17. 8/18/50 Rudolph Johnson’s letter to [1561]:
RUDOLPH JOHNSON Attorney at Law Mercantile Bank Building DALLAS, TEXAS
Mr. [1561] …, New Jersey
Dear Mr. [1561]
Thank you for your letter of August 9, which I have read with a great deal of interest. The information which you have on this mine certainly justifies a thorough exploration of the area. I think that the financing set-up which you have outlined is fair, and I sincerely trust that you will have no trouble obtaining share holders. I would like to be considered tentatively as the subscriber of one share, but at this writing I am not in position financially to send you my check. It will possibly be a period of three weeks before I can know definitely if I can participate financially in this venture. On the other hand, if I can give you any assistance in writing members, or in any other way, you may count on me thoroughly.
I have noted that it has always been hard to pin the Cayce information down to a particular point. It always seemed to me that when the attempt was made, the answers became very vague until a direct question gave Mr. Cayce the opportunity of making a selection of a specific answer. I refer herein particularly to your inquiries relative to the location of the railroad. The same condition persisted throughout all of the information on the Lindbergh kidnapping [See [4191] series], which I read with a great deal of interest. Although there has been a great deal of information given as to the location of mineral deposits and buried treasure, I know of no instance in which any of it has ever been located [See 5628-2]. At the present time I am engaged in a search for oil deposits based on some of Mr. Cayce’s 1925 geology. I will let you know how this turns out for me.
I would like to hear more about the silver mine, and would appreciate another letter from you. With every good wish for your success, I am
Sincerely yours, RUDOLPH JOHNSON [RJ:iba]
R18. 8/23/50 [1561]‘s letter to Mr. Johnson:
Mr. Rudolph Johnson Dallas Texas
Dear Mr. Johnson your cordial and interesting letter awaited my return from New York and I am taking the liberty of making a copy and sending it to Hugh Lynn.
Yes - information and directions DO appear to be vague and confusing at times and it makes me reflect upon an admonition via Edgar Cayce as given in the answer to Question 1 in a “reading” dated March 31 ‘38 [1561-1, Par. 59-A] as follows
- “more determined should be the entity that the answers to such (questions) should come from within self”. However, sometimes repetitious contemplation and recapitulation MAY clarify quite puzzling situations as presented. SOMETHING seems to ring an intuitional bell in the region of the solar-plexus. Have you not found this so?
I am quite convinced that the attitude of mind and what REALLY is in the hearts of those who are interested in the quest or development will have greatly to do with the success or failure of the venture. I believe that I have witnessed this in a failure (at the time) when avarice and jealousy entered the little group. They passed THROUGH the horizon ‘as given’ but no oil. [See 1561-21, etc.] Indications, yes. But - as given to me by another, who also was GOOD, the oil is not only on THAT horizon (4500 or 5000 as I remember) but a far larger and richer pool rests at the 7000 or 7500! This is a 1400 acre tract north of Tyler, Texas.
However, I’m a MINING engineer with little experience in oil and - my material “luck” certainly seems to have been identified with the desert and it’s gold and it’s silver, not only in this, but according to EC in a number of preceding ‘experiences’. Both Edgar and Hugh Lynn seemed to have recognized this and my intuition confirms. Thus our mutual interest.
I appreciate your interest and good will and hope that our trails will meet one day. I’m looking forward to the meeting.
Very sincerely, [1561]
R19. 9/50 Rudolf Johnson’s letter to Mr. [1561] used in 5628-11 Reports.
R20. 9/14/50 [1561]‘s letter to HLC:
For some unexplainable reason I just think I can find “THE LOST SHEEP” MINE! But I DO want to be properly equipped both for the prospecting and for surface development such as trenching and sinking shallow shafts etc etc., and - I won’t come back EMPTY HANDED.
I’ve covered a lot of territory with a string of burros but those years were quite a while ago and I’m not repeating in this age of jeeps! AND, I’ve hit the head of 7/8th steel with a 4 pound hammer - above and below ground - but we’ll use an air drill today when it becomes necessary to drill and blast to expose a showing and that’s what I mean by adequate equipment.
I’m taking a mineral locator and a Geiger Counter along just in case “hunch” refuses to operate at times. The USGS recommends a Geiger Counter made in Boston, as I remember. A good mineral locator is made in Glen Ellyn, Ill. Of course it doesn’t tell you WHAT metal or mineral it indicates but if you’re in a copper area it’ll very likely be copper and if you’re in a SILVER area, it’ll likely be silver that the instrument registers. A little knowledge of rockology helps.
R21. 10/24/50 Rudolf Johnson’s typed letter to HLC used in 5628-11 Reports.
R22. 6/18/52 to HLC: “Don’t stick the enclosed in a file which will never be brought to light and dusted off! Several friends have asked to go along and I launch the venture shortly.”
AT THE RAINBOW’S END
Mystic Trails [4/52 by Mr. [1561]]
We know of some that have borne good fruit. We have heard of those which brought forth naught but disappointment. Many have yet to be ventured or followed to their ends.
The following experiences may prove interesting to both the incredulous and the mystical minded.
The First - in my experience - was many years ago. I had acquired and “located” some mining claims in Nevada. Surface cuts and shallow shafts exposed a 15 inch vein of quartz carrying Gold and silver values which were more indicative of possibilities than of probabilities.
Some few years previously, Sam Newhouse, a prominent mining man of Salt Lake City, had persuaded me to see a woman who had been blind from birth. Her name was Mrs. Rubenhausen. She had then told me some startling personal experiences which she ‘saw’ in my immediate future and which subsequently had proved to have been accurate forecasts in every detail.
Anyway, I called on her again and handed her a small piece of ore from the surface of this vein and she immediately described the following picture.
“I see two miners in the face of a long tunnel - the smoke has just cleared out and they raise their arms in surprise (demonstrating) as they see the rock all shining with Gold. It will be a valuable little mine.”
This encouragement, together no doubt with somewhat of a “hunch”, prompted me to drive a cross-cut tunnel to cut the vein at a depth of some 300 feet.
When we had driven 630 feet, one of the two men who had been working “graveyard” shift, came running down to my cabin as I was cooking breakfast, yelling “We’ve struck it! We’ve struck it! It’s plaster’d all over the face!” They were, however, too excited to remember their first reactions or gestures when I casually inquired.
This was called the Elke Prince Mine. We shipped some two million dollars in Bullion from the ore that was hauled out of that tunnel.
The Second - Returning from the first world war during the height of the Ouija Board craze, I was sitting with another when the following was rapidly spelled out. “Do you remember the gulch filled with snow in summer?” I could not remember and asked - Who are YOU? A name was spelled out (which I do not now remember) and the question repeated. Then a most vivid picture returned. Yes, I remembered and so exclaimed. Then followed - “Go up the gulch another 20 rods.”
Some four or five years previously, Paul Ehlers and I had traced lead carbonates up a gulch but could not find the vein from which they had eroded. There - was snow in August.
Shortly I returned to our Nevada camp and casually asked Paul if he had ever heard of a fellow named so and so. “Sure
- we used to prospect together south of The Needles but he died long ago.” Then I told him the story.
That summer we started out again with our burros. Again we climbed to where we had previously given up the search. From there we continued 20 rods and after a lot of scratching and digging, sure enough, I found a vein some 2 to 3 feet wide which proved to be a high-grade lead deposit.
We carefully covered it up and left for camp, for we had guessed, from our bearings, that this “find” might be on a section of railroad land. This proved to be true and I tried to lease or purchase but, while RR lands east of this point had been obtained for grazing purposes, I was unsuccessful.
We always thought that they suspected that we were mining rather than sheep or cattlemen and might send their own engineers to look the area over.
Paul Ehlers died and I have never gone back.
The Third - My first Cayce “reading” was back in 1938. Edgar Cayce was that very remarkable and lovable psychic of Virginia Beach, Virginia, who left some 20 odd thousand copies of the “reading” which he had given throughout his life. The book “There is a River” by Thomas Sugrue, is the fascinating story of Edgar Cayce.
Toward the end of this reading I had asked several questions regarding certain mining properties with which I was somewhat familiar when, voluntarily and unexpectedly, he spoke forth with considerable emphasis - “The GREATER lead for SILVER is the ‘LOST SHEEP’ MINE - where there were the ‘lost sheep’”!
Though I had prospected and had had a lot of experience in Arizona, I had never heard of such a mine nor any legend pertaining and I asked no further questions at that time.
Subsequent readings however, gave directions for finding. Distances and compass directions from certain points and a description of the formations and ore occurrence at the exact location.
The files were searched for further references to the ‘LOST SHEEP’, as it had been referred to in the readings for others. It is described as ‘The RICHEST mine in Arizona.’
Some of these directions seemed confusing but - after a lot of research and contemplation, I feel certain that it CAN be located. And so - I’m going prospecting again.
The Fourth - This, like the Third, is a psychic description via Edgar Cayce. It describes and gives the directions for finding another mine in Arizona - the ‘Lost DUTCHMAN’ [See 3638-1] - a fabulously rich Gold Mine, about which so much has been written, from both the legendary and the historically factual.
This, of course, has been sought after for many, many years and is still a magnet for prospectors to this very day. The psychic information tells just WHY it has not been found.
If these psychic directions prove to be correct, as I believe they will, then, with proper motive, equipment and procedure, the “LOST SHEEP” MINE and the “Lost DUTCHMAN” should not be too difficult to locate.
Both are described as “grass-root” propositions which will finance themselves from the moment of location.
The Fifth - This is the story of a friend and associate of many years standing. It covers the high points of our recent talks and of the correspondence which he took from his files for me to read.
He was about 6 foot 4 or 5 and close to 80 I would judge and walked with a military bearing. As the train pulled in to the station he alighted and with no hesitancy whatever, walked down and crossed the street to the restaurant where I was sitting and came directly to my table. I had driven to town from my mine and had just finished a leisurely lunch.
“You are Mr. […]. I was informed that you would be here waiting for me.” He introduced himself as Captain Collins. I had never seen or heard of him before.
Well - he told me all about the SILVER MINE - how the Old Prospector had found it way back in 1808! How he had concentrated and then roasted the ore in a little charcoal furnace. It had been slow and tedious work for he ground the ore by hand in a little mortar.
He told me how the Old Prospector had moulded the silver into little balls which he hammered into “dollars” containing just a little more silver than the government coins. (There’s a local legend to the effect that someone had done that very thing.) And, finally, how he had cleaned up $6,456.00 in three visits to the mine and then - died.
It is difficult to describe my first reactions. Incredulous! and yet - he seemed to radiate integrity and assurance.
“You’ve nothing to do this afternoon and your car is ready. It’s not too far. Let’s go.” He directed the way over little used roads and trails which he claimed, and I am convinced, he had never seen before. We reached a point where he said that he would remain as the climb was too steep for him but that I was to continue in the directions and for the distance he would indicate. That I would find certain landmarks and formations.
I found everything as described. I tried to find the old diggings from which I might sample the very ore which the Old Prospector of 1808 said would run 100 ounces to the ton. I did not find any, so sample the ledge as directed. I gave the sample to Captain Collins who took them away with him.
Shortly, I heard from him. The assay results had been poor. Would I meet him again and go to the mine? On this trip he had me go higher up the mountain, saying that I would find certain other landmarks and formations. There too, I found just as described and again took samples which I gave to him when I came down.
He next wrote that the samples had not come up to his expectations. “I expected 75 to 100 ounce ore. They averaged 20 ounces. When you have time, go to that ledge and take samples from the soft earth on the upper side of the ledge about 15 feet east of the stream of water in the gulch. Trace out the dyke and try again to find out where he dug.”
Several weeks later I made the trip again and sampled as directed, afterwards following the ledge a long way in both directions but, again, I did not find any diggings. I sent him these samples which also averaged 20 ounces.
When next I heard form Captain Collins, he wrote “The man who found the SILVER MINE says that the surface ore was leached to a depth of 3 feet. He told me this before but I forgot to tell you. Please go to the spot where you were at first
- where you found the dyke - and go back 15 feet from the water and dig down 3 feet and send me the sample. The Old Prospector say’s that all the holes that he had dug had filled up during the past century and INSISTS that the ore runs 100 ounces in Silver to the ton.”
“He says that he had no one to leave his secret with. His partner was dead and he, himself, had died at 83 soon after his third trip to the mine. He concluded - “Had I been younger I would have made a fortune. I know you will make good use of the money you make, helping the world to be better, so I freely tell you all I know.” He answered every question fully and insists that you (Mr. […]) had found the dyke he worked on.”
We had some continuing correspondence for a time and then I never heard from him again. I presumed that he, too, had passed on.
JCA has always thought of this as an “Ace in the hole”. In answer to my natural query “How come you let it lie idle all these years?” He explained that he had never dug down those 3 feet because he did not want to blaze a trail that others might follow, until he was ready to develop and operate it himself and that never, during all those intervening years, had we had the necessary time to devote to it or the capital to spare for its proper development.
During all the years that we have been associated, he had never told me about this adventure. Vague hints occasionally, after I had told him of some experience of mine, until, finally, the full story and evidence, during a recent visit with him.
April 1952 [1561]
R23. 7/23/52 HLC’s letter to [1561]:
Mr. [1561]
…, N.J.
Dear [1561]
For some months I’ve been in correspondence with Henry Gross, the man whose dowsing work was the subject of Kenneth Roberts’ book, HENRY GROSS AND HIS DOWSING ROD, which attracted national attention as a best seller about a year or two ago.
Gross is now working with minerals. If you will send me a detailed map of Texas and indicate the general area of the “Lost Sheep”, I will try to get him to make a location for us from the map. He just recently spent two or three days here in Virginia Beach and I feel him to be most cooperative.
This may be the lead we have been waiting for.
My best regards to both you and […]
Sincerely yours, Hugh Lynn Cayce [HLC:mb]
R24. 8/7/52 (Thursday eve) [1561]‘s letter to HLC:
Dear H. L. -
Just finished reading Kenneth Roberts’ book. Looks like Henry Gross is some boy. I wish it might be possible for me to be present at his map dowsing for our Arizona ventures - three.
Sort of think I might suggest questions of importance in determining procedures, finance and equipment AS WELL as regarding locations and approaches. Also additional questions are so often prompted by the trend of preceding answers. His process of obtaining desired information via answers of yes or no, is interesting, isn’t it.
Anyway, comment on my last and tell me just where H. G. is now (I presume in Maine) or will be later on.
And - as much as you care to about your original contact and why you think he may cooperate.
My plans are jelling and I would like this information as quickly as possible - thus the inclosed reminder!
Fondly [1561]
Ha,ha - according to Alexander [Richard Alexander] and others, my “map” says the best and most profitable years of this particular “experience” are during this last cycle. I believe Treasure Trails is the answer.
R25. 8/12/52 HLC’s letter to [1561]:
Mr. [1561] …, New Jersey
Dear [1561]
I have waited to mail the map you sent me to Gross until I heard from him. I suggest you send me some questions or arrange to go up there at the time he will try the dowsing on the map.
Gross’ headquarters are in Maine there near Kenneth Roberts, but I understand from him that he travels about quite a bit. Perhaps it would be easier if you let him try the dowsing on the map itself and then send him questions if he gets anything like a definite location.
We wrote Gross in connection with local legends on some buried treasure [3812-6 and 3812-7]. He made some locations from a map and later verified these locations when he was here. Digging produced no results, so I expect you will have to consider as an adjunct to you own intuitive guidance which in my opinion will be better than anything you can get on the subject. We had quite a correspondence with him prior to his trip down here which he undertook at his own expense.
I liked the man, personally, very much. I will try to get the map off to him within the next day or so and I will send you a copy of my letter which will accompany the map.
Regards from all here.
Sincerely yours, Hugh Lynn Cayce [HLC:mb]
R26. 8/27/52 HLC’s letter to [1561]:
Mr. [1561] …, New Jersey
Dear [1561]
I have talked over the “Lost Sheep” Mine project with my brother who has been handling most of the correspondence with Henry Gross. In examining the map which you sent us, he pointed out that it was on much too large a scale to be of any great value to you. He suggested that you get immediately from the Department of Interior, U. S. Government Survey, a key map of Arizona and that you then get detail maps of the specific area in which you are interested. These are on a much better scale and are up-to-date. Mark such a map according to the area in which you are interested and send it to Gross.
Attached is a copy of my letter to him about you
Sincerely yours, Hugh Lynn Cayce [HLC:mb Enc.]
R27. 9/3/52 Kenneth Roberts’ letter to [1561]:
WATER UNLIMITED, Inc. Kennebunkport Maine
Kenneth Roberts Henry Gross .., N.J.
Dear Mr. [1561]
Henry is leaving tomorrow on a series of jobs that will keep him busy for the remainder of September.
If you want to come here some time in October, we could give you the time:; but we’d want it distinctly understood that we make no claims as to the accuracy of Henry’s rod on anything but water. We have made a few efforts to help out some people in mining matters; but in every case we have only wasted our time. This is something that neither Henry nor I can afford to do.
If we could have the assurance that exploratory work was going to be done on a given mining location, and that Henry’s dowsing, if successful, would result in 50% of the proceeds, we might take one more chance.
Sincerely, Kenneth Roberts.
R28. 2/10/59 HLC’s letter to [1561]:
Mr. [1561] …, N.J.
Dear [1561]-
I’m returning the material which you sent me some time ago. I apologize for the fact that it was misplaced in my letter file. I’m afraid that I put it aside, intending to write you more fully about King when I heard from him. In the meantime, many things have developed, including quite a correspondence with him [Thomas C. King, Anglo Oil & Exploration Co., 523 3rd St., N.W., Albuquerque, New Mexico]. Let me bring you up to date.
I put my brother in touch with Mr. King before I returned from the West Coast last spring. He has been carrying on some correspondence with him and sent him some of the data regarding mines in Arizona [195-1, 195-5, 195-8, [1561] extracts, etc.]. King has made a couple of trips there to look the situation over and, apparently, has been unable to locate anything.
This might be an excellent time for you to get in touch with him as your interpretations of the readings and the directions might help him clear up his understanding of them.
He seems to be a very energetic and interested young man.
Would you like to see copies of the correspondence we have had from him before you write him, or simply write him now telling him that you understand he has made some preliminary investigations and having been interested in the project, you might be able to help with the interpretation of directions.
Enclosed is a copy of a letter to him regarding you which will act as an introduction.
Best regards to both you and […]
Sincerely, Hugh Lynn Cayce [HLC:av] [Encls.]
R29. 4/5/60 Letter from Thomas C. King to Edgar Evans Cayce: ”…Some new developments in the search have arisen. Week before last I was talking to a friend about lost mines, particularly the Lost Adams Diggins described in Frank Dobe’s book ‘Apache Gold and Yagui Silver’ when he mentioned one which he was going to look for north of Salome, Arizona. Of course I was all ears - as he (Carl Donato) described the time in Globe, Arizona, when he was mining asbestos that he chanced to meet a soldier in a bar. He (the soldier) described a time on maneuvers that his buddy (who lived near the Wrigley Ranch, Kingman) was digging a fox-hole or bivouac when he dug up a piece of high grade float of the caliber described in the readings on the ‘Lost Sheep’ Mine. I plotted the position he described and found it to correspond to my interpretation of the place described in the readings.
“Again Sunday morning I got down to the hotel early - 6:15
- and ran into a Mr. Roy R. McDonald who lives in Wendon, Arizona. In the course of the conversation he told me that his father started the Bonanza Mines, north of Salome or north of Wendon about 7 or 8 miles. He said that Wenden used to be called Bonanza, but when the R.R. came thru they changed the name to Wendon. A Mr. Young was in charge of the S.F.R.R. crew, and it was he who changed the name in about 1907.
“Now a reading extract [1561-3, Par. 20-A] sent me by [1561] quotes about as follows:
“Where in Arizona is the ‘Lost Sheep’ Mine?
“This is in Yuma County, about 43 miles North by West of Bonanza, which is on THAT railroad, but in another county of course.”
“Now I have never seen the original, or a copy of the original, and this extract could be garbled. For example, if it read ‘4.3 miles N by W of Bonanza’ instead of 43 miles, and if Bonanza were the mine instead of the town, this would coincide with the position given in another reading [1561-11] which states that it is 63 miles TOWARD the West by Northwest of that town ‘almost on the border of the state, and just east of the border through which the R.R. (Santa Fe) passes from NE toward SW.’ This calculates to an arc stretching along the western foot hills of the Harcuvar Mountains. The intersection of this arc with the North by West line out of Bonanza 4/3 miles pinpoints a possible area for prospecting.
“I will, God willing, get down there as soon as conditions permit. If possible, would you look through [1561]‘s readings and extract VERBATIM anything pertaining to the ‘Lost Sheep’ Mine. (Anything beside the info. you already sent me.) For example, the question and answer bit described by [1561] and quoted here, if I could be sure of itsexact wording, would be of immense value now that we have apparently found BONANZA and have evidence of extremely high grade float ore in this immediate area.
“How are you coming with the microfilming, etc.? If there were some way to get the info. or readings punched into IBM cards the job might be hastened. Perhaps the finances will be forthcoming if we are given some help on the ‘Lost Sheep’…”
R30. 4/8/60 GD’s letter to Mr. King:
Mr. Thomas C. King 513 3rd N.W. Albuquerque, New Mexico
Dear Mr. King,
Edgar Evans Cayce brought me your letter of April 5th regarding a possible interpretation of the quote from reading [1561] on the “Lost Sheep” Mine.
Enclosed you will find an exact copy of the last two pages of Mr. [1561]‘s reading 1561-3. You will see that Q-18 [1561-3, Par. 20-A] is the quote to which he referred and it, the questions, refers back to reading 195-1 gotten in 1922. A copy of this reading is also enclosed, although I think you have had it sent to you before this. Evidently an earlier reading than 1922 mentioned this “Lost Sheep” Mine, but we do not have a copy of it.
Your interpretation of the “43 miles” possibly reading 4.3 miles might be correct. There is no way of telling. Even though I personally took down this reading in shorthand, I could have been mistaken in what I heard. It certainly sounded like “43”, but is is certainly worth a try figur- ing it the other way so that it will jibe with the reading 1561-11 which mentions the position as being 63 miles towards the west, etc.
All the readings have been microfilmed now and we are using the prints of the film to work from, using them as masters for duplicating so that we will not have to refer to the originals. These copies were made for you from the prints of that reading by running the pages thru the Thermofax machine. This is speeding up the work considerably. We now have copies of over 500 pages of prints in the Library and about 5000 index cards keyed to these copies. Of course, the names of personalities have been deleted on these copies, the case number inserted, and pertinent background and report correspondence included. As you suggest, the IBM cards will be the thing when the job is finished, but we first have to do all this preparatory work. I believe, too, that the money will be forthcoming for us to do the job necessary.
My friend Lillian Fraysse wrote me of meeting you and having a visit with your group. She was very enthusiastic about it.
Hugh Lynn is expected back about the 15th and he will be brought up to date on this correspondence with you.
Best wishes.
Sincerely, [signed] Gladys Davis Turner, A.R.E. Secretary [GDT:js]
R31. 7/26/60 Thomas C. King’s letter to Mr. [1561]:
Mr. [1561] …, New Jersey
Dear [1561]
Everyone has had a long dry spell as to my letter writing, but am getting back in the groove now. Fall is drawing near and am starting to lay plans for the winter “hunting”.
As you know I had considerable difficulty in reconciling the readings concerning the “Lost Sheep Mine”, inasmuch as reading 1561-3 says as follows: “This is in Yuma County, about 43 miles North by West from Bonanza, which, of course, is in another county, but close to that border and on the RAILROAD…” Reading 1561-11 states: - we would find this From that railroad crossing just below the state line or just east of the state line, about 63 miles toward the northwest by west from that station, see?”
Now Yuma County is a large rectangular shaped piece of land with the east border a longitude line, that is, due north and south; while the west boundary is the Colorado River and the north boundary is the Bill Williams River. The Railroad, the north branch of the Santa Fe, referred to in subsequent questions crosses the Colorado River, the “border”, at Topock, then angles westerly, curving northerly up to Kingman. Several towns and switches, side tracks, etc., are scattered along it as far as Kingman. At no other place is the railroad within 63 miles of the Yuma County Line. Thus the railroad crossing must be on this stretch. Now using the first description, the direction North by West is N 4 degrees E true bearing, it is obviously impossible for this town of Bonanza to be in another county and on the railroad if the second reading is also true, since the north branch of the Santa Fe comes within range of Yuma county (63 miles) only on the western boundary where the RR comes across at Topock. Thus Bonanza must be either in another county in California, or must be in the county north of Yuma county. There is no place on the railroad in California which fills the bill except across the river from Yuma; a point 43 miles N 4 degrees E from there gets into Yuma County for a little bit about 10 SW of Blythe, but this is more than the 63 miles to the RR on the north. So the only remaining possibility is that there is a stenographic error in the readings. The most logical is if Edgar Cayce repeated the directions twice. I found there apparently was a stenographic error in 195-5, but in this reading, he immediately corrected the steno by referring to a landmark. When I got on the ground I found that the correction he made was as if he were there looking at the ground when the reading was given.
In this instance with the “Lost Sheep” Mine the exact same mistake with the exact same directions could have been made; the reading on the “Lost Dutchman” [3638-1] contained the same directions, with no steno error, ‘north by west, north by west’.
To take such complicated directions down in shorthand as rapidly as they were given must have been a monumental task, and such errors could creep in. Suppose for example he said in all three readings, “north by west, north by west.” In the “Lost Dutchman”, this was transcribed, ‘north by west, north by west.’ In 195-5, this was transcribed, ‘…west by northwest’ and then he corrected saying, ‘FROM THE “KING MINE” TOWARD THE “NORTH STAR” MINE, SEE?’ This checks the actual ground, as the “North Star” Mine is toward or nearly north by west of the King mine, instead of west by northwest which is no direction known to me at all.
In 1561-3 he says north by west, and if he repeated, the steno merely took it down as is.
In 1561-11 it reads, “…toward the northwest by west.” This is a direction, but I can’t make it check the ground as yet.
Supposing that it was NORTH BY WEST. Then if you started at the mine and went 43 miles north by west you would be on the railroad, and if you went 63 miles you would be on the same railroad, see? So therefore the railroad must connect these two points in a north by west direction - AND SO IT DOES!
Now see if you agree with me in this, or if this gives you any ideas. It won’t be long now before you will be ready to go prospecting. It’s getting fall and will soon be cool enough to go out on the desert.
The 195-5 reading I think undoubtedly refers to other than the Silver Mine in the “Lost Sheep”. A flock of sheep was evidently involved in both instances, but not the same ones as the two areas are widely separated. This 195-5 reading refers to a gold mine, “in the free state” it says.
Enclosed are some photos [See 195-5 Reports] of the area described in 195-5, taken within 1 mile of the spot described in the reading. I took these and got out as it was 140 degrees in the shade I bet.
How’s the eyes - hope you are recovering your sight.
Lots of luck and best regards, [signed] Tom [Thomas C. King]
cc: Gladys Davis Turner - A.R.E. Headquarters
[In handwriting:] Gladys - enclosed is an extra photo or two - Hello to Hugh Lynn - will write directly next few days. Tom
R32. 8/10/61 [1561]‘s letter to Edgar E. Cayce:
At home - … Avenue, …, N.J.
Columbia University Club
Dear Ed - (Edgar E. Cayce)
First - my warm regards and hope that all is well with you and all. I’m so happy that ARE is expanding and increasingly spreading its good and so helpful influence during these dizzy times. One day I’ll be actively and constructively interested I’m sure.
Long since, I sent H.L. a set of 45 Vols of Santachi’s little blue books (5x7”) called “Treasure Trails”. In vols 3 & 4 he printed a little sketch of 5 Ventures - 4 of [?] (2 proven and 2, via your father) yet to be. No 5 was that of […], my associate which he also proved but never followed up. At long last he now promises to relocate and obtain possession. He is in the area. If you can put your hand on the booklets in your library, look see Page 62 of either Vol 3 or 4 - [Marginalia by [?]: 8/13/61 I answered this & sent copy “Earth Changes” - thought you might like to answer regarding [this paragraph]. By the way what’s happened to King?]
You once asked me if I knew :Jack” Prince and what did I think. I had not then met him. Last year he phoned me and spent the day with us at … He and Mrs. Prince. We LIKED liked them and have corresponded ever since. They are to stop by again latter part of next month he writes. He too is interested in the “LOST SHEEP” mine and I gave him all the info I have. And now I’d like to ask you the same questions
- What’s YOUR reaction (confidential) re “Jack and his doodlebug accomplishments?”
I’m under the impression that Tom King has sorta lost interest since his HOT treks in Yuma County. From his few early letters I concluded he had not tried to correlate ALL the directions as given in the “readings”. He wrote of Gold but never SILVER? One day we’ll find it but I’m now in drydock where I’ll have to remain until my vision is restored via cataract removal.
Believe there’s a paper - your father’s prophecies re land changes etc. he told me of some which he said were highly “classified” (or something akin) because most mortals are not prepared to hear them without “fainting”! I have those as given in the books of Gina Carminaza Cerminara] and Millard also in the Searchlight and the Bulletin. If the paper goes further do send it to me. To “109” - not to the club as I seldom get to the city.
Meantime, my ever warmest regards and well-wishes for you ALL. [1561]
Believe I have some appropriate writings for ARE library and will discuss them when I see you or H. L. next.
R33. 6/7/63 Letter see under 1561-1 Reports.
R34. 5/24/71 See THE OUTER LIMITS OF EDGAR CAYCE’S POWER, by Edgar Evans Cayce and Hugh Lynn Cayce, dealing with all of the readings which didn’t work out.
Background
Background
B1. See 1561-1, Par. 58-A and 1561-3, Par. 20-A.
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Summary
Edgar Cayce gives a psychic reading for Mr. [1561] regarding the location and potential of the ‘Lost Sheep’ silver mine in Arizona, as well as advice on mining operations in Montana, a message to President Roosevelt, and a plan for a communal farm.
People: Milton Harrison, Hugh Lynn Cayce, mr. [2172], faith hope charity harding, henry a. wallace, Franklin Roosevelt, mr. timothy nolan, mr. corette, mr. c. rudolph johnson, kenneth roberts, henry gross, thomas c. king, Edgar Evans Cayce, Gladys Davis, captain collins, mr. [3538], mrs. [1602], mrs. [2174], mr. [2091], dr. [2246], mrs. rubenhausen, sam newhouse, paul ehlers, carl donato, roy r. mcdonald, mr. young, jack prince, mrs. prince, Gina Cerminara, millard
Places: New York City, Arizona, montana, butte, montana, Texas, Virginia Beach, new jersey, tryon, north carolina, trucksville, pennsylvania, salt lake city, utah, nevada, California, albuquerque, new mexico, maine, kennebunkport, maine, glen ellyn, illinois, boston, massachusetts, washington, d.c.
Concepts: psychic reading, lost sheep mine, mining operations, past-life in egypt, Intuition, spiritual development, treasure hunting, dowsing
Referenced readings: 1561-1, 1561-3, 1561-8, 1561-12, 1561-13, 1561-17, 1561-18, 1561-21, 1561-22, 195-1, 195-5, 195-8, 294-197, 3638-1, 3812-6, 3812-7, 4191, 5628-2, 5628-11
Mentioned Entities
Arizona, New Mexico, Hugh Lynn Cayce, Entity (Cayce Term), Texas, Purpose, A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment), Gladys Davis, Intuition, New York City, Photography (Atlantean), Book of Job, California, Colorado, Franklin Roosevelt, Paul (Apostle), Thomas Sugrue, Virginia Beach, Edgar Evans Cayce, Egypt
Source: The Complete Edgar Cayce Readings, A.R.E. CD-ROM (2006). Reading 1561-11, ReadingID 7570.